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Link Posted: 6/21/2020 8:59:44 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/21/2020 9:09:47 AM EDT
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I was up north for the invasion. On the ground when the 'herd jumped in.

Flew in on a MC130, NOE.  Crazy ride for sure.

The load out on my GMV was insane--.50 cal, M240, 2 x M249s, Javelin CLU with a bunch a missiles that we used up pretty quick and got more from the 173rd, a 60mm mortar, more than a few AT4s, tons of grenades.  All for 4 dudes in the truck.

It was crazy times.  Watching B52s carpet bomb Iraqi positions.  Wish I had taken more pictures.  I did use some disposable cameras, but like 3 were destroyed during my time there.
Link Posted: 6/21/2020 9:23:35 AM EDT
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I was a Combat Engineer attached to 3ID on the March to Baghdad.  Our ROE was basically if you think there might be the possibility of someone farting in your general direction, weapons free.  Our first engagement was at a bridge site on the Euphrates River.  It was short, but we all expended plenty of ammo.  The planners did a good job ensuring we did not show up for a fair fight.
Link Posted: 6/21/2020 9:27:05 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/21/2020 9:36:56 AM EDT
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I miss my war!  It was best time of my life!  Nothing I ever have done before or afterward has ever come close to the adventures I had as a 18 Series cat on a go team with the ROE shackles removed!

18Z50.....

Caution:  War is dangerous.  Consult with your recruiter before going to war.  War my cause serious injury and even death.  If you experience an upset stomach, vomiting, headache, dizziness, loss of appetited, or feeling of depression or suicidal thought, you should discontinue going to war and seek immediate help at the VA.  In some rare cases, War my be  habit forming and addictive.  Seek expert advice before attending SFAS or the SFQC.
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Truth there, brother.

A buddy from a sister unit linked up with me around '07 in Baghdad and we traded war stories.  By this time he'd been blowed up five times in Strykers and had nothing but really good things to say about them.

"Remember when we were kids and we always imagined shooting guys firing at us from the roofs of buildings like in the old cowboy movies and they fell like three stories into the street?"

"Yeah!"

"Finally got to do that."

The VA lady doc doing my retirement psych eval went down the checklist asking if I had any PTSD symptoms.  Truthfully I told her, to all questions, "No ma'am."  She asked why, with the places I've been and things I've done and seen my experience was different.

"I'm a carrier, ma'am."

03RN and you other guys, brother, if I could I'd share some premium bourbon with you right now and give you a great big hug.  No homo.
Link Posted: 6/21/2020 9:37:45 AM EDT
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A little background:

Up until January 2001, the US military had been subjected to some of the stupidest, most detrimental, demoralizing treatment by the Clinton White House for 8 years.  The senior NCOs and officers had grown up during the Reagan Administration where the military had one primary focus:  Train for combat and deploy on a moment's notice to dish out coordinated, professional, industrial-scale violence on our enemies with swiftness.

When Clinton came into the WH, she instituted all kinds of social experiment garbage, SHARPs training, EO quotas, don't ask-don't tell, and there was a clear departure from the war-fighting spirit from the top-down.  To this schism, there was a lot of cultural resentment from dudes who had joined a professional military tasked with doing our Nation's business seriously.  When I was a private, all my Drill Sergeants had combat patches, and practically all the NCOs with 5 years of service or more in my first unit had been Panama or ODS vets as well, so we got to hear how things used to be concerning training, ammo allotments, field rotations, and deployments.

Once George W. Bush came into the WH, he inherited a mixed military culture of camouflage welfare recipient garrison Pogues, and war-fighters who were chewing at the bit to deploy and slay enemy combatants.  After 9-11, everyone knew it was game-time and he had already done a 180 in several areas, military pay being the first one.  Clinton had made sure we didn't get a pay raise for years, and when Bush came in, it hit our wallets significantly and was very welcome.  Morale picked up tremendously because you knew the Commander-in-Chief was making the military a priority.

As things moved forward into 2002, we saw one Battalion from down the street deploy to Afghanistan, but nothing for us.  More and more guys started murmuring again, saying, "We're never going anywhere.  We're gonna continue to do DRF cycle picking up pine cones on Sicily while everyone else gets a piece of the action.  This sucks!"

Then we got word we were deploying "somewhere" in early 2003, while pallets of DCUs, IBAs, Wiley Xs, desert boots, and MOLLE gear piled into the Brigade supply system, filtering down to the Companies with mass issue eventually ending up in Joe's arms as he hobbled away from each Company supply room down in the basement level.

Right before we deployed, they had all the NCOs from my Brigade (325th) meet in York Theater (Fort Bragg).

Imagine this perspective but everyone in BDUs (we couldn't wear the DCUs until the day we staged for loading the birds IIRC):

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Firs0.4sqi.net%2Fimg%2Fgeneral%2F600x600%2F59185088_fOrhbY9zmUHJ0Z2vR021UuiSzTMr2e6EgMQWdBz5oxw.jpg&f=1&nofb=1


Some butter bar 2LT gets up in front of that screen and says,

"Alright gents, watch this short video presentation and then I'll be giving you your CENTCOM AOR ROE briefing."

I looked over to the dude to my left and said, "Wake me up when this stupidity is over." or something to that effect.

It gets quiet, and then Drowning Pool's Let the Bodies Hit the Floor slowly crescendoed into full volume, and the screen erupts with footage from Desert Storm, primarily focusing on the Highway of Death slaughter with escharred corpses hanging out of the APCs, trucks, and tanks, F-15Es, F-16s, A-10s, M-1 Abrams, and Bradleys blasting Iraqi units endlessly.

There was a unanimous roar among us all, as this was unexpected.

The little JSG Lieutenant gets up on the stage again, and starts off his very animated and motivated "ROE briefing".

One of the first things he said that slapped us all into full focus was...

"I don't care if your Company commander tells you to tape up your mags or not have a round in the chamber of your weapon.  That's an unlawful order and will be disobeyed!"

"You are to shoot first and ask questions later!"

"If you see a threat, do not wait to be fired upon."

The shouts of "Hooah!" were visceral.  I couldn't believe what I was hearing, but I liked it.

We all went back to our Joes and told them we're getting ready to kick some serious ass.

To be a SAW gunner, M240 gunner, FO, TACP, Scout Sniper, or Scout/Observer in the early days of OIF in 2003 was everything and more than a young hooah could have hoped for.

I had this cheap little 35mm film no-name camera.  Digital cameras were just barely becoming a thing back then and I didn't have one.

I just found a bunch of photos I forgot about I need to upload sometime.  Here's one I've had for a while.

https://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j422/LRRPF52/14CrowellinOverwatch.jpg

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That's awesome!
Link Posted: 6/21/2020 9:42:22 AM EDT
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A little background:

Up until January 2001, the US military had been subjected to some of the stupidest, most detrimental, demoralizing treatment by the Clinton White House for 8 years.  The senior NCOs and officers had grown up during the Reagan Administration where the military had one primary focus:  Train for combat and deploy on a moment's notice to dish out coordinated, professional, industrial-scale violence on our enemies with swiftness.

When Clinton came into the WH, she instituted all kinds of social experiment garbage, SHARPs training, EO quotas, don't ask-don't tell, and there was a clear departure from the war-fighting spirit from the top-down.  To this schism, there was a lot of cultural resentment from dudes who had joined a professional military tasked with doing our Nation's business seriously.  When I was a private, all my Drill Sergeants had combat patches, and practically all the NCOs with 5 years of service or more in my first unit had been Panama or ODS vets as well, so we got to hear how things used to be concerning training, ammo allotments, field rotations, and deployments.

Once George W. Bush came into the WH, he inherited a mixed military culture of camouflage welfare recipient garrison Pogues, and war-fighters who were chewing at the bit to deploy and slay enemy combatants.  After 9-11, everyone knew it was game-time and he had already done a 180 in several areas, military pay being the first one.  Clinton had made sure we didn't get a pay raise for years, and when Bush came in, it hit our wallets significantly and was very welcome.  Morale picked up tremendously because you knew the Commander-in-Chief was making the military a priority.

As things moved forward into 2002, we saw one Battalion from down the street deploy to Afghanistan, but nothing for us.  More and more guys started murmuring again, saying, "We're never going anywhere.  We're gonna continue to do DRF cycle picking up pine cones on Sicily while everyone else gets a piece of the action.  This sucks!"

Then we got word we were deploying "somewhere" in early 2003, while pallets of DCUs, IBAs, Wiley Xs, desert boots, and MOLLE gear piled into the Brigade supply system, filtering down to the Companies with mass issue eventually ending up in Joe's arms as he hobbled away from each Company supply room down in the basement level.

Right before we deployed, they had all the NCOs from my Brigade (325th) meet in York Theater (Fort Bragg).

Imagine this perspective but everyone in BDUs (we couldn't wear the DCUs until the day we staged for loading the birds IIRC):

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Firs0.4sqi.net%2Fimg%2Fgeneral%2F600x600%2F59185088_fOrhbY9zmUHJ0Z2vR021UuiSzTMr2e6EgMQWdBz5oxw.jpg&f=1&nofb=1


Some butter bar 2LT gets up in front of that screen and says,

"Alright gents, watch this short video presentation and then I'll be giving you your CENTCOM AOR ROE briefing."

I looked over to the dude to my left and said, "Wake me up when this stupidity is over." or something to that effect.

It gets quiet, and then Drowning Pool's Let the Bodies Hit the Floor slowly crescendoed into full volume, and the screen erupts with footage from Desert Storm, primarily focusing on the Highway of Death slaughter with escharred corpses hanging out of the APCs, trucks, and tanks, F-15Es, F-16s, A-10s, M-1 Abrams, and Bradleys blasting Iraqi units endlessly.

There was a unanimous roar among us all, as this was unexpected.

The little JSG Lieutenant gets up on the stage again, and starts off his very animated and motivated "ROE briefing".

One of the first things he said that slapped us all into full focus was...

"I don't care if your Company commander tells you to tape up your mags or not have a round in the chamber of your weapon.  That's an unlawful order and will be disobeyed!"

"You are to shoot first and ask questions later!"

"If you see a threat, do not wait to be fired upon."

The shouts of "Hooah!" were visceral.  I couldn't believe what I was hearing, but I liked it.

We all went back to our Joes and told them we're getting ready to kick some serious ass.

To be a SAW gunner, M240 gunner, FO, TACP, Scout Sniper, or Scout/Observer in the early days of OIF in 2003 was everything and more than a young hooah could have hoped for.

I had this cheap little 35mm film no-name camera.  Digital cameras were just barely becoming a thing back then and I didn't have one.

I just found a bunch of photos I forgot about I need to upload sometime.  Here's one I've had for a while.

https://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j422/LRRPF52/14CrowellinOverwatch.jpg

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What company In 325 AIR were you in?
Link Posted: 6/21/2020 9:48:08 AM EDT
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Yeah pretty much. My boys in 3-7 IN fucked up Baghdad big time and basically leveled BIAP. THUNDER RUN BABY!!!!
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and then we got yelled at on the net for lobbing 203 rounds at the aircraft.......
Link Posted: 6/21/2020 9:58:42 AM EDT
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You had to be there to believe it.

March 2003 to March 2004:

“Hey man, y’all want some AT4s? Here’s like 5 or 6.”

Driving around in unarmored humvees, doors off, rear security in a lawn chair in the back.

$100k in cash in my backpack.  Turn in some Arabic receipts and get another $100k.

Captured weapons everywhere, no pistol issued to me so I had a seized .38 revolver with no reloads stuck in my DCU pocket for emergencies. I.e. not getting my head sawn off by hadji.

Having a bonfire at night like Lord of the Flies, with some of Saddams johnnie walker blue label getting passed around.

Go feed the tigers at the zoo during lunch.  Stop for hummus and ice cream at the market.

Let’s go explore the tunnels under the palace. Rumor has it there’s an underground route to the airport.

Hawaiian shirt day. Or week

Big boy rules.  Do what you want, how you want, but you own the consequences.

Replaced my name tapes with CPT Ali Baba.

Got pulled over on Route Irish by a bird colonel for not wearing my seatbelt. He didn’t like my name tapes.

Thanksgiving 2003 spent with the locals, teaching them how to eat shrimp, then getting violently ill from food poisoning.

Handing out “puffy potato chips” (pork rinds)

Oh damn we shot the local mayor in the ass in front of a crowd of screaming locals.
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So you were a CA guy too?
Link Posted: 6/21/2020 10:05:35 AM EDT
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Haha yes, no adult supervision!
Link Posted: 6/21/2020 10:06:34 AM EDT
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Yeah pretty much. My boys in 3-7 IN fucked up Baghdad big time and basically leveled BIAP. THUNDER RUN BABY!!!!
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We were waiting for the dust storms to clear.  Looked up at the screen in the JOC and you f@kkers were driving across my drop zone.

Cocksuckers.  
Link Posted: 6/21/2020 10:17:44 AM EDT
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422?
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I was 422nd
Link Posted: 6/21/2020 10:39:13 AM EDT
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Haha yes, no adult supervision!
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holy shit, you can say that again....
Link Posted: 6/21/2020 10:39:52 AM EDT
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Nice!  You went in with 3ID?  Who were you with after they went home?

We were on our own at first.  Got put onto C5s suddenly at Bragg, flew to Kuwait, then sat for a couple of days.  We weren't assigned to maneuver units yet, so our commander was like "Fuck it lets go."  Drove north with literally no plan other than find some Americans that needed civil affairs.  I would walk into a TOC and be like, "Hey, you guys need some help?"  They would give me a map of their area and we would hit the streets.  

I spent a few months with 3ID, then 1st Armored, then 2nd ACR for most of the time.
Link Posted: 6/21/2020 11:06:33 AM EDT
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Nice!  You went in with 3ID?  Who were you with after they went home?

We were on our own at first.  Got put onto C5s suddenly at Bragg, flew to Kuwait, then sat for a couple of days.  We weren't assigned to maneuver units yet, so our commander was like "Fuck it lets go."  Drove north with literally no plan other than find some Americans that needed civil affairs.  I would walk into a TOC and be like, "Hey, you guys need some help?"  They would give me a map of their area and we would hit the streets.  

I spent a few months with 3ID, then 1st Armored, then 2nd ACR for most of the time.
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I wound up attached to 1AD DISCOM after 3ID ripped out. After we got to Baghdad and set up the CMOC in the green zone...well what became the green zone....my team got sent down to LSA Dogwood where the CSH was at the time and just started running missions out of there....and then we discovered there were a metric shit ton of explosives that got abandoned at Al Qua Qua military complex..so we started trying to mitigate the theft of that for a while.
Link Posted: 6/21/2020 12:53:16 PM EDT
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I wound up attached to 1AD DISCOM after 3ID ripped out. After we got to Baghdad and set up the CMOC in the green zone...well what became the green zone....my team got sent down to LSA Dogwood where the CSH was at the time and just started running missions out of there....and then we discovered there were a metric shit ton of explosives that got abandoned at Al Qua Qua military complex..so we started trying to mitigate the theft of that for a while.
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Hmmmm.... I seem to remember some CA guys being involved in a treasure hunt in the area around that time...

Army Probes Alleged Theft of Cash by Troops
By David Zucchino
April 24, 2003
12 AM
Times Staff Writer
BAGHDAD —

Army commanders said Wednesday that American military personnel had removed about $12.3 million from huge caches of U.S. currency that were found by fellow soldiers in recent days in an exclusive neighborhood once home to senior Iraqi officials.

Investigators have recovered all of the stolen money, officials said, and commanders have ordered soldiers not to search for more hidden cash in the area where they discovered about $656 million in boxes inside cottages on Friday. Civil affairs officers found an additional $112 million Tuesday inside kennels in the same area.

One commander said three galvanized aluminum boxes containing an additional $12 million found at the cottages were allegedly removed and hidden by five soldiers for several hours before being recovered by investigators Saturday morning.

Those three boxes of cash had not been reported to commanders. With that amount, a total of about $780 million has been found in sealed structures in a tree-lined Tigris River area at the edge of the sprawling Presidential Palace complex in central Baghdad.

The currency apparently was left behind by Baath Party and Republican Guard officials as they fled the U.S. invasion.

Two of the three stolen boxes, each originally containing $4 million in tightly wrapped bundles of $100,000, were still sealed when they were recovered in a stone-lined canal near a mansion, commanders said. The third, which had been pried open, was retrieved near the operating base of soldiers implicated in the thefts.

A soldier with knowledge of the missing money from the opened box near the base had pangs of guilt and told investigators where to find the cash, said Lt. Col. Philip deCamp, who is participating in the investigation. That soldier has been cleared, he said, but five others are still under investigation.

Those five soldiers, who have not been charged, have cooperated with investigators to varying degrees, according to DeCamp. They face actions ranging from a letter of reprimand to a full court martial, which could include prison time.

The soldiers under investigation are from the 10th Engineer Battalion, which is attached to or under what the military calls “operational control” of Task Force 4-64 of the 2nd Brigade. The Times incorrectly reported in Wednesday’s editions that the suspects were members of the 4th Battalion, 64th Armored Regiment, which forms the core of Task Force 4-64.

Officials said investigators on Friday recovered $600,000 hidden in a nearby tree and $300,000 in a cooler on a truck carrying the cash to Baghdad’s international airport for counting and safekeeping. On Saturday morning, an additional $200,000 was found in a wooded area near the cottage.

The $300,000 had been removed from a box found earlier Friday night in a separate incident. The remaining $800,000 had been removed from the box recovered near the soldiers’ base.

No money has been reported missing from the cache found Tuesday inside seven kennels. Like the cottages, the kennels recently had been sealed shut with cinder blocks and concrete.

All the boxes of cash had been sealed with metal rivets and tied with green plastic tags marked “Bank of Jordan.”

Tape on the cottage door handles and the kennel locks bore the signature of a Republican Guard general dated March 20, the day the U.S. ground campaign began in Iraq. A slip of paper inside one box said the money inside was stored on March 16 under the orders of former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein.

U.S. officials have said the cash is being held for the interim Iraqi government that is now being set up under U.S. auspices.

Commanders continued Wednesday to praise the conduct of two enlisted men who found the original caches Friday. Sgt. 1st Class Daniel Van Ess and Staff Sgt. Kenneth Buff immediately summoned commanders.

If troops find any more money, DeCamp said, whoever finds it is under orders to immediately secure the area and notify their commanders, who are to summon military police. Soldiers are not to pry open any more boxes.
Link Posted: 6/21/2020 1:01:43 PM EDT
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Hmmmm.... I seem to remember some CA guys being involved in a treasure hunt in the area around that time...

Army Probes Alleged Theft of Cash by Troops
By David Zucchino
April 24, 2003
12 AM
Times Staff Writer
BAGHDAD —

Army commanders said Wednesday that American military personnel had removed about $12.3 million from huge caches of U.S. currency that were found by fellow soldiers in recent days in an exclusive neighborhood once home to senior Iraqi officials.

Investigators have recovered all of the stolen money, officials said, and commanders have ordered soldiers not to search for more hidden cash in the area where they discovered about $656 million in boxes inside cottages on Friday. Civil affairs officers found an additional $112 million Tuesday inside kennels in the same area.

One commander said three galvanized aluminum boxes containing an additional $12 million found at the cottages were allegedly removed and hidden by five soldiers for several hours before being recovered by investigators Saturday morning.

Those three boxes of cash had not been reported to commanders. With that amount, a total of about $780 million has been found in sealed structures in a tree-lined Tigris River area at the edge of the sprawling Presidential Palace complex in central Baghdad.

The currency apparently was left behind by Baath Party and Republican Guard officials as they fled the U.S. invasion.

Two of the three stolen boxes, each originally containing $4 million in tightly wrapped bundles of $100,000, were still sealed when they were recovered in a stone-lined canal near a mansion, commanders said. The third, which had been pried open, was retrieved near the operating base of soldiers implicated in the thefts.

A soldier with knowledge of the missing money from the opened box near the base had pangs of guilt and told investigators where to find the cash, said Lt. Col. Philip deCamp, who is participating in the investigation. That soldier has been cleared, he said, but five others are still under investigation.

Those five soldiers, who have not been charged, have cooperated with investigators to varying degrees, according to DeCamp. They face actions ranging from a letter of reprimand to a full court martial, which could include prison time.

The soldiers under investigation are from the 10th Engineer Battalion, which is attached to or under what the military calls “operational control” of Task Force 4-64 of the 2nd Brigade. The Times incorrectly reported in Wednesday’s editions that the suspects were members of the 4th Battalion, 64th Armored Regiment, which forms the core of Task Force 4-64.

Officials said investigators on Friday recovered $600,000 hidden in a nearby tree and $300,000 in a cooler on a truck carrying the cash to Baghdad’s international airport for counting and safekeeping. On Saturday morning, an additional $200,000 was found in a wooded area near the cottage.

The $300,000 had been removed from a box found earlier Friday night in a separate incident. The remaining $800,000 had been removed from the box recovered near the soldiers’ base.

No money has been reported missing from the cache found Tuesday inside seven kennels. Like the cottages, the kennels recently had been sealed shut with cinder blocks and concrete.

All the boxes of cash had been sealed with metal rivets and tied with green plastic tags marked “Bank of Jordan.”

Tape on the cottage door handles and the kennel locks bore the signature of a Republican Guard general dated March 20, the day the U.S. ground campaign began in Iraq. A slip of paper inside one box said the money inside was stored on March 16 under the orders of former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein.

U.S. officials have said the cash is being held for the interim Iraqi government that is now being set up under U.S. auspices.

Commanders continued Wednesday to praise the conduct of two enlisted men who found the original caches Friday. Sgt. 1st Class Daniel Van Ess and Staff Sgt. Kenneth Buff immediately summoned commanders.

If troops find any more money, DeCamp said, whoever finds it is under orders to immediately secure the area and notify their commanders, who are to summon military police. Soldiers are not to pry open any more boxes.
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I seem to recall a little something about finding a shit ton of money hidden in walls and whatnot...I was busy elsewhere at the time, however some of my battalion mates told me a bit about it.
Link Posted: 6/21/2020 1:10:11 PM EDT
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Some places, yeah.

Other places, no.

Probably depended who you were with.  You'd also be surprised how scared some commanders were to allow anyone to actually go weapons free, even in 2003 (and 2005), and even when you had uniformed enemies firing at you.
Link Posted: 6/21/2020 2:11:00 PM EDT
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My 1SG, Commander and TM SGT for HOA were 422 during the invasion. You’re not the guy that shot the tiger are you?
Link Posted: 6/21/2020 2:17:54 PM EDT
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OIF II (fuck you Turkey) 04-05
Did our right seat ride and RIP with 1-10 Cav, 4th ID

Early on it was still the wild wild West.

Look like a shithead doing shithead things? Brrrp.
Launch a rocket/mortar at our house? Fuck you, have some 155mm/MLRS in your backyard. Yeah, we still did H&I fires too because 'merica!
Didn't like the 155mm the other night? Here, have a JDAM instead.


Ammo was plentiful.


Flex gun weapon systems.


You can fuck more stuff up when you live and fight as a combined arms team.


Apache guys are still fags.


As it got closer to elections, we had to start being nice. They even took away our attached arty.
Link Posted: 6/21/2020 2:30:55 PM EDT
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OIF II (fuck you Turkey) 04-05
Did our right seat ride and RIP with 1-10 Cav, 4th ID

Early on it was still the wild wild West.

Look like a shithead doing shithead things? Brrrp.
Launch a rocket/mortar at our house? Fuck you, have some 155mm/MLRS in your backyard. Yeah, we still did H&I fires too because 'merica!
Didn't like the 155mm the other night? Here, have a JDAM instead.
https://i.imgur.com/ISNmVw9l.jpg

Ammo was plentiful.
https://i.imgur.com/O8lrnZbl.jpg

Flex gun weapon systems.
https://i.imgur.com/TyQhJcKl.jpg

You can fuck more stuff up when you live and fight as a combined arms team.
https://i.imgur.com/gcw2OGTl.jpg

Apache guys are still fags.
https://i.imgur.com/WAcDFQIl.jpg

As it got closer to elections, we had to start being nice. They even took away our attached arty.
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My 1SG, Commander and TM SGT for HOA were 422 during the invasion. You’re not the guy that shot the tiger are you?
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nope.....but i certainly know him...and the incident well

took a lot of .380 rounds to bring that tiger down
Link Posted: 6/21/2020 3:18:43 PM EDT
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Honestly the 2007 Baghdad surge and 2010 Kandahar surge were essentially weapons free and completely austere and expeditionary as the PB/COP model transitioned in.

I was in Baghdad in 2007 in 3ID and we were rolling in tanks and Brad's, and were cleared hot on damn near everything. It wasn't until late 2007/early 2008 things started to slow down and we started opting for Humvees on most missions.  At least until the JAM cease fire ended, then it was right back to heavy guns.

Even 5 deployments after those I really havent had the misfortune of stagnant trips.  2017 Syria we were rolling around with literally 4-6 AT4s and a javelin with several missiles in pickup trucks.
Link Posted: 6/21/2020 3:29:51 PM EDT
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A little background:

Up until January 2001, the US military had been subjected to some of the stupidest, most detrimental, demoralizing treatment by the Clinton White House for 8 years.  The senior NCOs and officers had grown up during the Reagan Administration where the military had one primary focus:  Train for combat and deploy on a moment's notice to dish out coordinated, professional, industrial-scale violence on our enemies with swiftness.

When Clinton came into the WH, she instituted all kinds of social experiment garbage, SHARPs training, EO quotas, don't ask-don't tell, and there was a clear departure from the war-fighting spirit from the top-down.  To this schism, there was a lot of cultural resentment from dudes who had joined a professional military tasked with doing our Nation's business seriously.  When I was a private, all my Drill Sergeants had combat patches, and practically all the NCOs with 5 years of service or more in my first unit had been Panama or ODS vets as well, so we got to hear how things used to be concerning training, ammo allotments, field rotations, and deployments.

Once George W. Bush came into the WH, he inherited a mixed military culture of camouflage welfare recipient garrison Pogues, and war-fighters who were chewing at the bit to deploy and slay enemy combatants.  After 9-11, everyone knew it was game-time and he had already done a 180 in several areas, military pay being the first one.  Clinton had made sure we didn't get a pay raise for years, and when Bush came in, it hit our wallets significantly and was very welcome.  Morale picked up tremendously because you knew the Commander-in-Chief was making the military a priority.

As things moved forward into 2002, we saw one Battalion from down the street deploy to Afghanistan, but nothing for us.  More and more guys started murmuring again, saying, "We're never going anywhere.  We're gonna continue to do DRF cycle picking up pine cones on Sicily while everyone else gets a piece of the action.  This sucks!"

Then we got word we were deploying "somewhere" in early 2003, while pallets of DCUs, IBAs, Wiley Xs, desert boots, and MOLLE gear piled into the Brigade supply system, filtering down to the Companies with mass issue eventually ending up in Joe's arms as he hobbled away from each Company supply room down in the basement level.

Right before we deployed, they had all the NCOs from my Brigade (325th) meet in York Theater (Fort Bragg).

Imagine this perspective but everyone in BDUs (we couldn't wear the DCUs until the day we staged for loading the birds IIRC):

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Some butter bar 2LT gets up in front of that screen and says,

"Alright gents, watch this short video presentation and then I'll be giving you your CENTCOM AOR ROE briefing."

I looked over to the dude to my left and said, "Wake me up when this stupidity is over." or something to that effect.

It gets quiet, and then Drowning Pool's Let the Bodies Hit the Floor slowly crescendoed into full volume, and the screen erupts with footage from Desert Storm, primarily focusing on the Highway of Death slaughter with escharred corpses hanging out of the APCs, trucks, and tanks, F-15Es, F-16s, A-10s, M-1 Abrams, and Bradleys blasting Iraqi units endlessly.

There was a unanimous roar among us all, as this was unexpected.

The little JSG Lieutenant gets up on the stage again, and starts off his very animated and motivated "ROE briefing".

One of the first things he said that slapped us all into full focus was...

"I don't care if your Company commander tells you to tape up your mags or not have a round in the chamber of your weapon.  That's an unlawful order and will be disobeyed!"

"You are to shoot first and ask questions later!"

"If you see a threat, do not wait to be fired upon."

The shouts of "Hooah!" were visceral.  I couldn't believe what I was hearing, but I liked it.

We all went back to our Joes and told them we're getting ready to kick some serious ass.

To be a SAW gunner, M240 gunner, FO, TACP, Scout Sniper, or Scout/Observer in the early days of OIF in 2003 was everything and more than a young hooah could have hoped for.

I had this cheap little 35mm film no-name camera.  Digital cameras were just barely becoming a thing back then and I didn't have one.

I just found a bunch of photos I forgot about I need to upload sometime.  Here's one I've had for a while.

https://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j422/LRRPF52/14CrowellinOverwatch.jpg

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So did you deploy to Iraq? Where was the pic taken?
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I was up north for the invasion. On the ground when the 'herd jumped in.

Flew in on a MC130, NOE.  Crazy ride for sure.

The load out on my GMV was insane--.50 cal, M240, 2 x M249s, Javelin CLU with a bunch a missiles that we used up pretty quick and got more from the 173rd, a 60mm mortar, more than a few AT4s, tons of grenades.  All for 4 dudes in the truck.

It was crazy times.  Watching B52s carpet bomb Iraqi positions.  Wish I had taken more pictures.  I did use some disposable cameras, but like 3 were destroyed during my time there.
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OIF II (fuck you Turkey) 04-05
Did our right seat ride and RIP with 1-10 Cav, 4th ID

Early on it was still the wild wild West.

Look like a shithead doing shithead things? Brrrp.
Launch a rocket/mortar at our house? Fuck you, have some 155mm/MLRS in your backyard. Yeah, we still did H&I fires too because 'merica!
Didn't like the 155mm the other night? Here, have a JDAM instead.
https://i.imgur.com/ISNmVw9l.jpg

Ammo was plentiful.
https://i.imgur.com/O8lrnZbl.jpg

Flex gun weapon systems.
https://i.imgur.com/TyQhJcKl.jpg

You can fuck more stuff up when you live and fight as a combined arms team.
https://i.imgur.com/gcw2OGTl.jpg

Apache guys are still fags.
https://i.imgur.com/WAcDFQIl.jpg

As it got closer to elections, we had to start being nice. They even took away our attached arty.
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Wish I still had the pics, we recovered a 1/10 Cav Kiowa over at Caldwell by chopped the tail off with a crash axe and loaded it into the back of a LMTV before dropping it off at Speicher.
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I wound up attached to 1AD DISCOM after 3ID ripped out. After we got to Baghdad and set up the CMOC in the green zone...well what became the green zone....my team got sent down to LSA Dogwood where the CSH was at the time and just started running missions out of there....and then we discovered there were a metric shit ton of explosives that got abandoned at Al Qua Qua military complex..so we started trying to mitigate the theft of that for a while.
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Sounds like your deployment is one of the scenarios they talk about in the CA course now.
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YouTube only has it in 240p but here's some Thunder Run.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGQxR1FXta8

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Yeah pretty much. My boys in 3-7 IN fucked up Baghdad big time and basically leveled BIAP. THUNDER RUN BABY!!!!
YouTube only has it in 240p but here's some Thunder Run.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGQxR1FXta8


Why did the turret drop like that at 6:52?  Sounded like it powered down.
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It wasn't even half of what  it could have been.


Fuckers flattened shit more than they could've.
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Oh I believe that! I could only imagine what it would look like to add Himars and other ordinance from boats and air all at the same time!
Our arty alone is pretty nasty.  But to add the others,  I don’t think anyone could survive the targeted area.
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Nice!  You went in with 3ID?  Who were you with after they went home?

We were on our own at first.  Got put onto C5s suddenly at Bragg, flew to Kuwait, then sat for a couple of days.  We weren't assigned to maneuver units yet, so our commander was like "Fuck it lets go."  Drove north with literally no plan other than find some Americans that needed civil affairs.  I would walk into a TOC and be like, "Hey, you guys need some help?"  They would give me a map of their area and we would hit the streets.  

I spent a few months with 3ID, then 1st Armored, then 2nd ACR for most of the time.
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Clinton had made sure we didn't get a pay raise for years, and when Bush came in, it hit our wallets significantly and was very welcome.  Morale picked up tremendously because you knew the Commander-in-Chief was making the military a priority.

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Not even the least bit true.

The military got a pay raise during every year of the Clinton presidency. In fact, the 4.8% raise we got in 2000 was the largest since the 14.3% raise in 1982 under Reagan. (But, Reagan also gave the military the lowest pay raise in modern history up to the Obama administration, when he authorized a 2% raise in 1988.) Yes, we got a 6.9% raise in 2002, but that was the only one George W. Bush gave the military which was larger than Clinton's largest raise. The average Reagan-era raise was 4.8% and the average GWB-era raise was 4.3%, while the average Clinton-era raise was 3.1375%-not exactly a HUGE difference. By comparison, the average military pay raise during the Trump administration is only 2.75%.

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So did you deploy to Iraq? Where was the pic taken?
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According to him it is pre GWOT training
https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Operation-Red-Wings-Ambush-Footage-2005/5-2302738/?page=5#i83964186
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He was being facetious, or at least attempting to make it seem that way.  I just want to hear a definitive "yes I went to Iraq/Afghanistan for a combat deployment" before we get 40 more threads insinuating just that....or "no I havent".

It's totally ok to not have been on a combat deployment, it's not ok to insinuate you have and just dodge the question every time its asked when you havent.

And before anyone cries about getting called out, he didn't answer that exact question last time either.  It's a pretty simple question and totally devoid of persec/opsec.

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He was being facetious, or at least attempting to make it seem that way.  I just want to hear a definitive "yes I went to Iraq/Afghanistan for a combat deployment" before we get 40 more threads insinuating just that.

It's totally ok to not have been on a combat deployment, it's not ok to insinuate you have and just dodge the question every time its asked when you havent.

And before anyone cries about getting called out, he didn't answer that exact question last time either.  It's a pretty simple question and totally devoid of persec/opsec.

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I agree. I am a POG, well I was one. Now I am a key board warrior. I just did imagery stuff, so I was their in spirit
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This thread kicks ass. Thank you for your service gentleman.
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During the Invasion it was definitely Weapons free, I saw tanks that had used COAX to hose down other tanks with crunchies on them there were also not a lot of civilians on the battle field everyone stayed inside and hunkered down. All though we never ran out of Ammo or fuel we did run out of water and food a few times.
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I knew some crazy Marines that went in hard around that time. He showed me the craziest pics I’ve ever seen from an ambush location. They got hit by an IED. Vehicle was disabled. They all fled and took cover on the side of the road and called in backup. Eventually they had all kinds of friendly forces roll in and secure the area. Medical choppers landed and took the wounded and everything else that goes on after an IED attack.

The weird/creepy part. The Marines noticed when they ran from their burning vehicle to cover on the side of the road that the insurgents left them messages. Wrote in the sand with a stick or knife. All along the road they had scribbled words in the sand. They spent some time writing all that. Apparently it was just a bunch of “death to America” type of shit. They never received any fire after the IED. It was just to send a message.

Anyway. I never served, just relaying the story. Also a completely random cool story bro not related to OPs topic

I’m pretty sure they sprayed down their targets thoroughly over there.
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We were a bit wary..

The stories and training taught us to be prepared to die. Quick.

We didn't waver. USA!!!

No, I didn't go. But I was #3 on our unit list of volunteers.

I'm not a "war" veteran.  In the accepted sense.

But I have seen the elephant.  

God knows and watches over my brethren.

 
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Sounds like your deployment is one of the scenarios they talk about in the CA course now.
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Wouldn’t surprise me in the least. After that deployment I got tdy orders pretty regularly to 1st training brigade (or whatever it’s called now) to train and push deploying units at Fort Bragg, Fort McCoy, and Fort Dix as a result of what we learned then.
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I never deployed to Iraq.

Afghanistan had some very loose ROE at times.  In 2009-2010 it was the wild west in some places.
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We are still waiting
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I never deployed to Iraq.

Afghanistan had some very loose ROE at times.  In 2009-2010 it was the wild west in some places.
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Yeah Afghanistan 2009 was a fucking blast.
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I never deployed to Iraq.

Afghanistan had some very loose ROE at times.  In 2009-2010 it was the wild west in some places.
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Yeah Afghanistan 2009 was a fucking blast.
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I'm glad we still take the gloves off and break things sometimes
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I'm glad we still take the gloves off and break things sometimes
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Its all about the mission.  Sometimes the mission calls for restraint in the name of stability, sometimes it calls for absolute carnage.  That light switch is able to be switched on and off all night long.

At no point in the past 20 years of Iraq and Afghanistan has NOBODY been breaking things and putting in work.  Its just that sometimes EVERYBODY isn't.
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I was shore duty in the Big Canoe Club, so no combat for me, but my Marine buddies saw combat in M60 Pattons. They were mine sweepers who occasionally encountered enemy tanks. The accounts sounded stressful.  
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Its all about the mission.  Sometimes the mission calls for restraint in the name of stability, sometimes it calls for absolute carnage.  That light switch is able to be switched on and off all night long.

At no point in the past 20 years of Iraq and Afghanistan has NOBODY been breaking things and putting in work.  Its just that sometimes EVERYBODY isn't.
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Its all about the mission.  Sometimes the mission calls for restraint in the name of stability, sometimes it calls for absolute carnage.  That light switch is able to be switched on and off all night long.

At no point in the past 20 years of Iraq and Afghanistan has NOBODY been breaking things and putting in work.  Its just that sometimes EVERYBODY isn't.

Totally believe that.

Just often hear the restraint and power point stuff. Here on GD and on the news.

I haven't seen any good old fashioned news, like WW2. "OUR BOYS DESTROY CITY BLOCKS: BRING AMERICAN WAR MIGHT TO HUSSEIN" or "HELO PILOT FLIES NON STOP FOR 18 HOURS TO RAIN PAIN", etc etc.

As a regular guy I don't hear about the "time to wreck stuff" very often. I hear about mistakes, but never just victory through overwhelming force, unless it's VERY specific, like the Bin Laden raid.
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Totally believe that.

Just often hear the restraint and power point stuff. Here on GD and on the news.

I haven't seen any good old fashioned news, like WW2. "OUR BOYS DESTROY CITY BLOCKS: BRING AMERICAN WAR MIGHT TO HUSSEIN" or "HELO PILOT FLIES NON STOP FOR 18 HOURS TO RAIN PAIN", etc etc.

As a regular guy I don't hear about the "time to wreck stuff" very often. I hear about mistakes, but never just victory through overwhelming force, unless it's VERY specific, like the Bin Laden raid.
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Basically every direct action mission we do is with overwhelming force.
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Totally believe that.

Just often hear the restraint and power point stuff. Here on GD and on the news.

I haven't seen any good old fashioned news, like WW2. "OUR BOYS DESTROY CITY BLOCKS: BRING AMERICAN WAR MIGHT TO HUSSEIN" or "HELO PILOT FLIES NON STOP FOR 18 HOURS TO RAIN PAIN", etc etc.

As a regular guy I don't hear about the "time to wreck stuff" very often. I hear about mistakes, but never just victory through overwhelming force, unless it's VERY specific, like the Bin Laden raid.
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In the past 7-8 years about 90% of the actual fighting has been conducted by organizations where you typically dont hear anything in the news until somebody dies.  Like not just a couple big operations, dozens and dozens of teams running missions day in and day out per CENTCOM theater (of which we have three now)

My last deployment wasn't that long ago and we pretty much got it all. Firefights under 50 meters, minefields, IEDs, quasi-large scale combat operations with tanks and rocket artillery firing on us.  Experiences vary wildly, if you talk to somebody that sat in a guard tower the whole time you would get a different perspective.
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Basically every direct action mission we do is with overwhelming force.
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In the past 7-8 years about 90% of the actual fighting has been conducted by organizations where you typically dont hear anything in the news until somebody dies.  Like not just a couple big operations, dozens and dozens of teams running missions day in and day out per CENTCOM theater (of which we have three now)

My last deployment wasn't that long ago and we pretty much got it all. Firefights under 50 meters, minefields, IEDs, quasi-large scale combat operations with tanks and rocket artillery firing on us.  Experiences vary wildly, if you talk to somebody that sat in a guard tower the whole time you would get a different perspective.
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Cool.

Don't know what you don't know. I like learning about all the new tech, from planes to new tank armor, but I don't know a bunch about what actually goes on.

I'm glad I stumbled upon that post.

I wish we heard more stuff like when we raped Wagner Group.
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