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Link Posted: 7/2/2013 3:53:49 PM EDT
[#1]
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this is ok then right?

http://www.wral.com/raleigh-teen-charged-with-making-sex-tape/12621072/

Cary, N.C. — ...

Rayquan Andrew Williams, 16, of 2701 Community Drive in Raleigh, was charged Monday with first-degree sexual exploitation of a minor and resisting a public officer.

Police said Williams had sex with a 15-year-old girl in Cary and videotaped the encounter without her knowledge.

http://wwwcache.wral.com/asset/news/news_briefs/2013/07/02/12621078/Rayquan_Andrew_Williams-220x165.jpg





That's the best you can do?  Pathetic.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 3:54:14 PM EDT
[#2]
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so kiddie porn is bad unless created by kids right? What else is ok for kids to do? murder, DUI, rob banks?


The herp hurr de durr derp  is strong in this one.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 3:54:49 PM EDT
[#3]
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this is ok then right?

http://www.wral.com/raleigh-teen-charged-with-making-sex-tape/12621072/

Cary, N.C. — ...

Rayquan Andrew Williams, 16, of 2701 Community Drive in Raleigh, was charged Monday with first-degree sexual exploitation of a minor and resisting a public officer.

Police said Williams had sex with a 15-year-old girl in Cary and videotaped the encounter without her knowledge.

http://wwwcache.wral.com/asset/news/news_briefs/2013/07/02/12621078/Rayquan_Andrew_Williams-220x165.jpg
Oh yes, that's completely not the same.

Link Posted: 7/2/2013 3:56:13 PM EDT
[#4]
Police report says she's an inkie.

Link Posted: 7/2/2013 3:56:29 PM EDT
[#5]


Florida has some fucked up sex laws, the gem being 794.021
On second thought, Florida has too many mentally defective District Attorneys. Maybe if common sense were required to pass the bar things like this case wouldn't escalate this fucking far.





Link Posted: 7/2/2013 3:56:37 PM EDT
[#6]



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NO doubt...... I did a HUGE amount of stupid shit..... HUGE.  We did have camera's way back in the day...... even instamatics that didn't have to be taken somewhere to be developed.  We still weren't stupid enough to take pictures and pass them around.

Sometimes, stupid hurts.......... a lot.



yeah we get it.  you are so smart and did a lot of stupid shit but you were too smart to ever get caught.  





 
Again, you didn't grow up in this day and age.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 3:56:39 PM EDT
[#7]
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So it was legal for her to suck the dick, just not take pictures of it?  


She would have been fine if she stopped there....... making them available to other people is the problem.

I can't believe people can't understand the law and the problem.

Link Posted: 7/2/2013 3:56:40 PM EDT
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The complaint notes that the girl, who turned 15 last month, has a tattoo of a cross inked on her neck.


and she's an inkie too.


While it it hilariously ironic that she has a cross tattooed on her neck, it's not illegal if the parent consents to it (if they're a minor.)
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 3:57:49 PM EDT
[#9]
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The complaint notes that the girl, who turned 15 last month, has a tattoo of a cross inked on her neck.


and she's an inkie too.


While it it hilariously ironic that she has a cross tattooed on her neck, it's not illegal if the parent consents to it (if they're a minor.)
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 3:57:49 PM EDT
[#10]
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NO doubt...... I did a HUGE amount of stupid shit..... HUGE.  We did have camera's way back in the day...... even instamatics that didn't have to be taken somewhere to be developed.  We still weren't stupid enough to take pictures and pass them around.
Sometimes, stupid hurts.......... a lot.

yeah we get it.  you are so smart and did a lot of stupid shit but you were too smart to ever get caught.  

 
Again, you didn't grow up in this day and age.


Thank God.

So really, what's your point?

Are you saying that because she grew up " in this day and age" that intellect has dropped and she didn't have the smarts not to do what she did??

Are you saying that the technology MADE her do what she did?

What the fuck are you saying?

Link Posted: 7/2/2013 4:00:04 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/2/2013 4:00:53 PM EDT
[#12]




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So it was legal for her to suck the dick, just not take pictures of it?




She would have been fine if she stopped there....... making them available to other people is the problem.



I can't believe people can't understand the law and the problem.





I have a hard time believing that the legislators intent was to destroy the life a teenager because of something stupid like that.



Save the laws for the real CP producers.



Maybe not but it sure makes it easy for the DAs to maintain a  high "kill" ratio.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 4:01:48 PM EDT
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sometimes I say to myself "Self, nothing can surprise you today".  Then something like this comes along.


Yesterday was one of those days. Apparently today is, too. Tomorrow should be fun...
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 4:02:01 PM EDT
[#14]
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Police report says she's an inkie.



Oh you did it now.  It's the DK Prof signal.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 4:03:12 PM EDT
[#15]
5 pages, closed for personal attacks.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 4:03:59 PM EDT
[#16]
I will withhold publicly announcing my not guilty verdict for 3 years.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 4:04:33 PM EDT
[#17]
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so kiddie porn is bad unless created by kids right? What else is ok for kids to do? murder, DUI, rob banks?


Please explain to the class why it's perfectly ok for a 23 year old to bang a 16 year old all he/she wants but it's illegal to take a photo of it.


You are STILL not getting it are you??????  You- can- not- display-sexually-grahpic-pictures- of-minors.  That's the law.

Link Posted: 7/2/2013 4:04:45 PM EDT
[#18]
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If the purpose to kiddy porn laws are to protect children from being exploited, then how can you exploit yourself?


This. Makes no sense. I'm not saying it wasn't stupid, but charging her with a felony?
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 4:05:39 PM EDT
[#19]
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If the purpose to kiddy porn laws are to protect children from being exploited, then how can you exploit yourself?


I used to exploit myself at least once a day when I was that age.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 4:08:26 PM EDT
[#20]
Change the law if you don't like it.  However, you can't change the rules in the middle of the game.  She started her game.

Maybe next time, the people of that said state will have changed the laws to better reflect who can make kiddie porn and who can't.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 4:08:53 PM EDT
[#21]
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If the purpose to kiddy porn laws are to protect children from being exploited, then how can you exploit yourself?


I exploit myself often, but I consent to it.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 4:08:53 PM EDT
[#22]
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So it was legal for her to suck the dick, just not take pictures of it?  


I think it was the fact that she was showing it to everyone else, aka "distribution" that got her f-ed.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 4:09:03 PM EDT
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this is ok then right?
http://www.wral.com/raleigh-teen-charged-with-making-sex-tape/12621072/



Cary, N.C. — ...










Rayquan Andrew Williams, 16, of 2701 Community Drive in Raleigh, was charged Monday with first-degree sexual exploitation of a minor and resisting a public officer.










Police said Williams had sex with a 15-year-old girl in Cary and videotaped the encounter without her knowledge.







http://wwwcache.wral.com/asset/news/news_briefs/2013/07/02/12621078/Rayquan_Andrew_Williams-220x165.jpg

Kinda seems like apples and oranges to me.




Really? From the original story in OP, the perp was the actor and the manufacturer of the child porn, same as the story I just posted.







The girl admitted to "taking the pornographic photo,” according to a complaint affidavit filed by the Pasco County Sheriff’s Office. The document, sworn by a detective, does not identify the juveniles in the photo, though a sheriff’s spokesperson said that the teen herself is one of the minors depicted.






So what's not in the original story is if the other actor was aware of being photographed.





Either way, for you to win your argument that manufacture of child porn is OK is if the children are aware they're being photographed or filmed, otherwise it's not.  Again, was the other person in the girl's photo aware she was being photographed or not?  Story doesn't say one way or another.  
 
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 4:10:44 PM EDT
[#24]
Now she's a sex predator.  And will have to follow the rules as such now that she's on the list. Like notifying neighbors and can't love near schools or any kind of park. And needs to report any time she leaves the area.

justice prevails. However, justice is blind is it not?
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 4:13:52 PM EDT
[#25]
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If its illegal for a 15 yr old to take a pic of her having oral sex than why is it legal for her to get the morning after pill?


Link Posted: 7/2/2013 4:18:47 PM EDT
[#26]



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If its illegal for a 15 yr old to take a pic of her having oral sex than why is it legal for her to get the morning after pill?






use that argument as a defense if you ever get charged with possession of child pornography, you'll beat the charge and get a nice apology from the judge



 
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 4:26:48 PM EDT
[#27]
If your not old enough to consent to sex, then how can you be charged with a crime in relation to an act that you cannot consent to?
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 4:29:15 PM EDT
[#28]



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Slapping her with a felony will definitely get her on the right track!




The only way to protect teenagers from allowing themselves to be exploited for sexual gratification is to destroy their lives before they even have them. That'll learn 'em.


Meh, she's a juvie.  She'll get a slap on the wrist and it'll disappear when she's an adult.





No....pretty sure felonies are forever...no matter what age you get them.  I could be wrong, but if this stands, she will be a convicted felon for the rest of her life.
As far as I know, juvenile criminal records are "sealed," but are still accessible by authorized people when the juvenile becomes an adult.





 
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 4:30:19 PM EDT
[#29]
I'm sure making this kid a felon for life will do wonders to mold her into a productive citizen
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 4:34:39 PM EDT
[#30]
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So it was legal for her to suck the dick, just not take pictures of it?  


She would have been fine if she stopped there....... making them available to other people is the problem.

I can't believe people can't understand the law and the problem.


I have a hard time believing that the legislators intent was to destroy the life a teenager because of something stupid like that.

Save the laws for the real CP producers.
 


That would require an application of common sense and reason on the part of the legal establishment.

We can't have that around here
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 4:35:05 PM EDT
[#31]
Holy Derp.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 4:36:20 PM EDT
[#32]
Would she be in a better situation if she would have applied an Instagram filter and called it artwork?
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 4:38:39 PM EDT
[#33]


this is fuckin personal attack .... up in your fuckin face

to everyone ITT







jk ....shits gettin heated tho
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 4:42:05 PM EDT
[#34]
so... how does a convicted sexual predator finish high school? That sucks for her though. Felony charge for giving a bj. Popularity gets more expensive everyday.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 4:47:13 PM EDT
[#35]
Good luck trying to moderate child pornography laws.

If someone even tries to make an exception for cases like this they'll be demonized by the nanny-staters in both parties.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 4:50:04 PM EDT
[#36]
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So it was legal for her to suck the dick, just not take pictures of it?  


Yep. I can have sex with a 16 year old legally. Still can't take pics or video it.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 4:54:35 PM EDT
[#37]
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Now she's a sex predator.  And will have to follow the rules as such now that she's on the list. Like notifying neighbors and can't love near schools or any kind of park. And needs to report any time she leaves the area.

justice prevails. However, justice is blind is it not?

No, she's not.  Her offense prosecuted as a juvenile does not require sex offender registration in Florida.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 4:56:54 PM EDT
[#38]



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15 yr old takes a pic of herself having oral sex with another minor, and it's a felony child porn charge. Amazing.



http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/teen-girl-arrested-for-child-porn-675432






A 15-year-old Florida girl was arrested yesterday on a child pornography charge for allegedly showing several classmates a photo on her iPhone depicting "two juveniles engaged in oral sex,” police report.



The girl admitted to "taking the pornographic photo,” according to a complaint affidavit filed by the Pasco County Sheriff’s Office.




Kids these days....





Yeah, yeah, Florida.

*Facepalm*



 
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 4:58:22 PM EDT
[#39]
Prison will certainly rehabilitate her and make her a stand up, moral person.

Link Posted: 7/2/2013 4:59:19 PM EDT
[#40]
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Why does it matter if the iPhone is white? Is her last name Zimmerman?


Was fixing to post the first question ... and I see what you did there
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 5:00:49 PM EDT
[#41]
If digital cameras existed when I was a minor I'd have made a whole bunch of content being labeled here as kiddy porn.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 5:02:22 PM EDT
[#42]
And, once again, I find myself agreeing with VA-Gunnut.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 5:02:59 PM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
so kiddie porn is bad unless created by kids right? What else is ok for kids to do? murder, DUI, rob banks?


Just like self rape is bad? Oh yeah that just called masturbation
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 5:05:46 PM EDT
[#44]
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Slapping her with a felony will definitely get her on the right track!


The only way to protect teenagers from allowing themselves to be exploited for sexual gratification is to destroy their lives before they even have them. That'll learn 'em.

Meh, she's a juvie.  She'll get a slap on the wrist and it'll disappear when she's an adult.


Once a sex offender, always a sex offender for life. No way around it. Her life is screwed.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 5:06:48 PM EDT
[#45]
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Slapping her with a felony will definitely get her on the right track!


The only way to protect teenagers from allowing themselves to be exploited for sexual gratification is to destroy their lives before they even have them. That'll learn 'em.

Meh, she's a juvie.  She'll get a slap on the wrist and it'll disappear when she's an adult.


Once a sex offender, always a sex offender for life. No way around it. Her life is screwed.

Wrong.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 5:10:29 PM EDT
[#46]
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Slapping her with a felony will definitely get her on the right track!


The only way to protect teenagers from allowing themselves to be exploited for sexual gratification is to destroy their lives before they even have them. That'll learn 'em.

Meh, she's a juvie.  She'll get a slap on the wrist and it'll disappear when she's an adult.


No....pretty sure felonies are forever...no matter what age you get them.  I could be wrong, but if this stands, she will be a convicted felon for the rest of her life.


You're wrong, unless they're charged as an adult. And she probably will be.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 5:10:48 PM EDT
[#47]
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Slapping her with a felony will definitely get her on the right track!


The only way to protect teenagers from allowing themselves to be exploited for sexual gratification is to destroy their lives before they even have them. That'll learn 'em.

Meh, she's a juvie.  She'll get a slap on the wrist and it'll disappear when she's an adult.


Once a sex offender, always a sex offender for life. No way around it. Her life is screwed.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 5:17:40 PM EDT
[#48]
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this is ok then right?

http://www.wral.com/raleigh-teen-charged-with-making-sex-tape/12621072/

Cary, N.C. — ...

Rayquan Andrew Williams, 16, of 2701 Community Drive in Raleigh, was charged Monday with first-degree sexual exploitation of a minor and resisting a public officer.

Police said Williams had sex with a 15-year-old girl in Cary and videotaped the encounter without her knowledge.

http://wwwcache.wral.com/asset/news/news_briefs/2013/07/02/12621078/Rayquan_Andrew_Williams-220x165.jpg



Kinda seems like apples and oranges to me.


More like apples and pickup trucks.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 5:17:57 PM EDT
[#49]
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So it was legal for her to suck the dick, just not take pictures of it?  


Seems stupid to me. In most states, 16 is the age of consent. A 50 year old man can do porn star shit with a 16 year old, and be perfectly legal. But one pic of a gir's bare ass taken the day before her 18th birthday, off to prison with you!
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 5:18:40 PM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:
this is ok then right?

http://www.wral.com/raleigh-teen-charged-with-making-sex-tape/12621072/

Cary, N.C. — ...

Rayquan Andrew Williams, 16, of 2701 Community Drive in Raleigh, was charged Monday with first-degree sexual exploitation of a minor and resisting a public officer.

Police said Williams had sex with a 15-year-old girl in Cary and videotaped the encounter without her knowledge.

http://wwwcache.wral.com/asset/news/news_briefs/2013/07/02/12621078/Rayquan_Andrew_Williams-220x165.jpg


Totally different. If the girl was showing off the pics/video, she obviously knew she was on camera.

Should she have been suspended from school for a couple of days for passing around porno? Yes.

Should her parents be compelled by the state to maybe look into her past times if shes 15 with a neck tattoo and has no problem showing off her home made porn? Absolutely.

This is not a child being exploited, abused, etc by an adult. It's completely against the intent of the anti-child porn laws.
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