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Posted: 3/27/2009 6:06:09 AM EDT
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I'm not going to say anything. I don't wan to be put on another list +1 
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Posted: 3/27/2009 6:07:15 AM EDT
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If possessing nude pictures of yourself is a crime...I'm sure every American in this country is a criminal....because I'm sure most everyone still has baby pictures somewhere? Girl should have a talking-to but she's not a sex offender. But also, child porn is bad stuff. Definitely. Now, if she was coerced into porn shoots by an adult then I say draw and quarter the sonofabitch behind the lens, but this is clearly different. |
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Posted: 3/27/2009 6:09:02 AM EDT
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Ban cell phones for under 18. Riiiight...because heaven forbid 13-17 year olds that go out and do things and at 16 have cars have emergencies and need to use phones for a legitimate purpose?  Because they never managed before cellphones existed, riiiight? I mean, just look at the reduction (since cellphones arrived) in the number of 13 to 17 year olds dying on the side of the road because their car broke down, or they were late to be picked up as previously arranged, or they got kidnapped a the mall. Oh wait.... <sarcasm> |
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Posted: 3/27/2009 6:12:05 AM EDT
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Because they never managed before cellphones existed, riiiight? I mean, just look at the reduction (since cellphones arrived) in the number of 13 to 17 year olds dying on the side of the road because their car broke down, or they were late to be picked up as previously arranged, or they got kidnapped a the mall. Oh wait.... <sarcasm> They sure did. They had pay phones, but there are no pay phones anymore. I live 1/2 block away from a place where a pay phone existed. |
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Posted: 3/27/2009 6:17:58 AM EDT
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This country is going full retard. Does anyone have any common sense anymore? Also, why are nearly all young girls whores all of the sudden? WTF is happening. The systematic erosion of conservative values and the rise of the Me Generation™. |
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Posted: 3/27/2009 6:18:18 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: This shit is getting out of hand. In a purer, more just America, the DA would be tarred and feathered for this. And for some reason I think there's got to be some kind of constitutional issue in arresting someone for possessing nude pics of themselves. I can't quite figure out how I'd argue it but I know it has to be there somewhere. That is the part I do not get. How can you be charged with the possession of pictures of yourself, taken by yourself, on your own free will. That is just mind boggling. What is worse is there are people who see no issue with this cause its 'child porn'. Well, I'm with you on most of it except..... Private collections of photos are all well and good - "privacy of your own home" kinda thing. However, when you cross the line into public distribution of said photos, then it's another story. Still pictures of herself, done entirely of her own free will. Yes I agree that the argument changes some when its posted on the web for the entire world to see. However, the charges they are pressing do not fit the crime. Any charge would not fit the 'crime'. The girl should have to take it up with her parents, and nothing more. |
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Posted: 3/27/2009 6:20:42 AM EDT
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Play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.... No wait... it should be Play adult games, win adult consequences. |
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Posted: 3/27/2009 6:24:43 AM EDT
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The flaw in your logic being that if you want to treat them entirely like adults,then they aren't doing anything illegal
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Posted: 3/27/2009 6:24:55 AM EDT
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I'm sorry, but if their is no victim or obvious potential victim, there should be no crime.
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Posted: 3/27/2009 6:25:03 AM EDT
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This shit is getting out of hand. In a purer, more just America, the DA would be tarred and feathered for this. And for some reason I think there's got to be some kind of constitutional issue in arresting someone for possessing nude pics of themselves. I can't quite figure out how I'd argue it but I know it has to be there somewhere. That is the part I do not get. How can you be charged with the possession of pictures of yourself, taken by yourself, on your own free will. That is just mind boggling. What is worse is there are people who see no issue with this cause its 'child porn'. Well, I'm with you on most of it except..... Private collections of photos are all well and good - "privacy of your own home" kinda thing. However, when you cross the line into public distribution of said photos, then it's another story. Still pictures of herself, done entirely of her own free will. Yes I agree that the argument changes some when its posted on the web for the entire world to see. However, the charges they are pressing do not fit the crime. Any charge would not fit the 'crime'. The girl should have to take it up with her parents, and nothing more. Well, I'm with you on the "parents" thing BUT. Why not take it a step further and hold the parents liable? In a monetary way of course. IF you give your child a cell phone with the capability of taking pics or give your child unfettered access to the internet via a home computer, shouldn't the parents be liable for damages to the rep of the damaged party (MySpace in this example)? You'd see a lot more computers being thrown out of windows if you hit the "responsible" parents in the pocketbook. After all, the parents are responsible for other property crimes when their child is a minor. |
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Posted: 3/27/2009 6:25:54 AM EDT
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This country is going full retard. Does anyone have any common sense anymore? Also, why are nearly all young girls whores all of the sudden? WTF is happening. i dont know...but the typical HS girl is better looking then when i went to HS, and they put out more, and they are now sending nude pics of themselves...i wish i could go back to 16 again for all this  I wish it was that simple.....Now you've got hoes that think its aight to go and fuck 5 dudes in one night. Rinse and repeat next weekend. Shit gets dirty. |
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Posted: 3/27/2009 6:25:55 AM EDT
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Quoted: Give her something constructive to do with her time, community service and what not. Take away her cell phone and computer access. But a registered sex offender? Ruin the rest of her life because she made a stupid kid mistake? How many members of this site had sex with someone in high school while both parties were underage? That would make a large portion of this site sex offenders by the logic presented in this thread. So, any sex offenders out there?  Guilty as charged with multiple offenses.  (statute of limitations has expired) This zero tolerance, mandatory sentence crap is just that, crap! That's the job of a Judge. Not the holier than thou citizens. The human condition is no longer a factor and that's wrong. Think not? Wait till it's your kid! |
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Posted: 3/27/2009 6:27:16 AM EDT
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Play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.... No wait... it should be Play adult games, win adult consequences. +10000 Kids want to "grow up" so fast in this culture, well growing up has it's downsides. It's easy to blame the kids' parents but with this kind of technology the parents may never even know what's going on. They have cell phones, chat programs, myspace, a plethora of tools to communicate with their peers and love interests that the parents never see. This is one reason I am not putting my kids in public school, because there is NO good that comes of stuff like this. |
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Posted: 3/27/2009 6:27:31 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/27/2009 6:28:45 AM EDT
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so if a kid plays with themselves do they get charged with sex with a minor?
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Posted: 3/27/2009 6:29:02 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.... No wait... it should be Play adult games, win adult consequences. +10000 Kids want to "grow up" so fast in this culture, well growing up has it's downsides. It's easy to blame the kids' parents but with this kind of technology the parents may never even know what's going on. They have cell phones, chat programs, myspace, a plethora of tools to communicate with their peers and love interests that the parents never see. This is one reason I am not putting my kids in public school, because there is NO good that comes of stuff like this. As someone else mentioned. If you tried the kid as an adult, there would be no crime, because taking pictures of yourself nude is perfectly legal. You are wanting both in this case (using the kid aspect to form the crime, then charge her as an adult). Can't have it that way. |
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Posted: 3/27/2009 6:31:04 AM EDT
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This shit is getting out of hand. In a purer, more just America, the DA would be tarred and feathered for this. And for some reason I think there's got to be some kind of constitutional issue in arresting someone for possessing nude pics of themselves. I can't quite figure out how I'd argue it but I know it has to be there somewhere. That is the part I do not get. How can you be charged with the possession of pictures of yourself, taken by yourself, on your own free will. That is just mind boggling. What is worse is there are people who see no issue with this cause its 'child porn'. Well, I'm with you on most of it except..... Private collections of photos are all well and good - "privacy of your own home" kinda thing. However, when you cross the line into public distribution of said photos, then it's another story. Still pictures of herself, done entirely of her own free will. Yes I agree that the argument changes some when its posted on the web for the entire world to see. However, the charges they are pressing do not fit the crime. Any charge would not fit the 'crime'. The girl should have to take it up with her parents, and nothing more. Well, I'm with you on the "parents" thing BUT. Why not take it a step further and hold the parents liable? In a monetary way of course. IF you give your child a cell phone with the capability of taking pics or give your child unfettered access to the internet via a home computer, shouldn't the parents be liable for damages to the rep of the damaged party (MySpace in this example)? You'd see a lot more computers being thrown out of windows if you hit the "responsible" parents in the pocketbook. After all, the parents are responsible for other property crimes when their child is a minor. Parents should certainly be held liable.... but then again, Teens will do what they want to do. I've defied my parents plenty of times (surprised I didn't end up in jail in my teen years). |
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Posted: 3/27/2009 6:38:35 AM EDT
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This shit is getting out of hand. In a purer, more just America, the DA would be tarred and feathered for this. And for some reason I think there's got to be some kind of constitutional issue in arresting someone for possessing nude pics of themselves. I can't quite figure out how I'd argue it but I know it has to be there somewhere. That is the part I do not get. How can you be charged with the possession of pictures of yourself, taken by yourself, on your own free will. That is just mind boggling. What is worse is there are people who see no issue with this cause its 'child porn'. Well, I'm with you on most of it except..... Private collections of photos are all well and good - "privacy of your own home" kinda thing. However, when you cross the line into public distribution of said photos, then it's another story. Still pictures of herself, done entirely of her own free will. Yes I agree that the argument changes some when its posted on the web for the entire world to see. However, the charges they are pressing do not fit the crime. Any charge would not fit the 'crime'. The girl should have to take it up with her parents, and nothing more. Well, I'm with you on the "parents" thing BUT. Why not take it a step further and hold the parents liable? In a monetary way of course. IF you give your child a cell phone with the capability of taking pics or give your child unfettered access to the internet via a home computer, shouldn't the parents be liable for damages to the rep of the damaged party (MySpace in this example)? You'd see a lot more computers being thrown out of windows if you hit the "responsible" parents in the pocketbook. After all, the parents are responsible for other property crimes when their child is a minor. Parents should certainly be held liable.... but then again, Teens will do what they want to do. I've defied my parents plenty of times (surprised I didn't end up in jail in my teen years). Yeah, I agree with "teens do stupid crap". Someone else stated that it's "setting precedent" It's not really. If you went around doing crazy stuff and did damage then your parents had to pony up and pay the fines and/or property damage for it. All I'm saying is just because the technology is a bit different, the same parental responsiblity is in order. Of COURSE teens can find a "work-around". I'll bet though that the said girl would think twice about going over to a friends house and using their equipment to upload the pictures. She isn't going into the library, stripping down in the lobby and uploading. I'm just saying that the technology exists to secure a home computer so that this doesn't happen. No, what happens is they put a computer in their kids room with unfettered access to the internet. We talk about guns all the time. How many here would give a loaded pistol to their 14 year old daughter with no constraints at all? These "weapons of technology" can be just as deadly. |
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Posted: 3/27/2009 6:40:22 AM EDT
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Quoted: Take a bow Brittany Spears and Paris Hilton. You Turn little girls into skeezos like yerselves. Yeah, because the kids parents and friends had nothing to do with it. |
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Posted: 3/27/2009 6:44:56 AM EDT
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NJ is full blown control freak Government. NJ Government is a disgrace to real America. |
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Posted: 3/27/2009 6:46:30 AM EDT
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Take a bow Brittany Spears and Paris Hilton. You Turn little girls into skeezos like yerselves. Yeah, because the kids parents and friends had nothing to do with it.
Pop culture certainly has influence on kids. Remember Madonna back in the 80s? Remember how many girls dressed like her? |
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Posted: 3/27/2009 6:53:24 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Take a bow Brittany Spears and Paris Hilton. You Turn little girls into skeezos like yerselves. Yeah, because the kids parents and friends had nothing to do with it. Pop culture certainly has influence on kids. Remember Madonna back in the 80s? Remember how many girls dressed like her? I also remember Judas Priest killing a couple of kids in Utah and all of those Madonna look-alikes publishing coffee table books about their sex lives. Dressed like <> Acted like. If your kid is so influenced by pop culture that they can blame Brittany Spears for their 'sexting' habit, then you have failed so miserably as a parent that Ms. Spears won't have any trouble defending herself to any court. Blaming pop culture is nonsense. |
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Posted: 3/27/2009 7:06:53 AM EDT
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Take a bow Brittany Spears and Paris Hilton. You Turn little girls into skeezos like yerselves. Yeah, because the kids parents and friends had nothing to do with it.
Pop culture certainly has influence on kids. Remember Madonna back in the 80s? Remember how many girls dressed like her? I also remember Judas Priest killing a couple of kids in Utah and all of those Madonna look-alikes publishing coffee table books about their sex lives. Dressed like <> Acted like. If your kid is so influenced by pop culture that they can blame Brittany Spears for their 'sexting' habit, then you have failed so miserably as a parent that Ms. Spears won't have any trouble defending herself to any court. Blaming pop culture is nonsense. I didn't say pop culture was the sole blame... I said it certainly has an influence. Look at the rap culture.... then look at the number of youths that dress and act it. When I traveled to Japan and Taiwan, the rap/hiphop culture was there too. I was watching Chinese and Japanese kids walking around like they had a limp with their pants leg half up, as if they were expecting a flood to arrive. Look at the number of white kids acting all big and bad with their hats turned cockeyed. You mean to tell me that pop culture doesn't influence? I think it influences bad behavior.... and the parents/family/friends certainly add to it when they don't take responsibility for their actions (or lack of). While I was shopping at Publix (nice part of town). I watched a white 10yo(+/-) kid cussing up a huge storm in front of his mother. He had the baggy clothes, the hat turned cockeyed, silver chain, and had an attitude of hell. Manager had to kick him and his mother out of the store. The mother was a pacifistic, so she didn't argue too much nor bothered to smack her own child. I can sum up that the rap culture of Cop killing, drug using, gang fighting, attitude throwing, "ho" bashing helped influence that kid... because I highly doubt it was country music that did it. |
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Posted: 3/27/2009 7:35:22 AM EDT
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Sooooo... who's the victim on this?
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Posted: 3/27/2009 8:04:14 AM EDT
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Sooooo... who's the victim on this? That depends on who's POV it is. |
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Posted: 3/27/2009 8:05:07 AM EDT
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The idea the teenagers should be treated the same as prepubescent children is dangerous and outdated.
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Posted: 3/27/2009 8:11:56 AM EDT
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Parents of these children need consequences as well! I don't understand why a young girl would be so inclined to do such a thing, or better yet, why a parent wouldn't have constraints in place to prevent this from happening. Parents far too often allow their children to run around and act like assholes with little or any supervision, and this is what you get!
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Posted: 3/27/2009 8:16:03 AM EDT
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posting nudes on myspace is so 2006. what teen girl is dumb enough to do that now.
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Posted: 3/27/2009 8:19:12 AM EDT
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The girl needs a whop upside the head something fierce. But sex offender status? Who did she offend? She offended "Society". Society has determined that we will not tolerate pornographic pictures of children to be published. It doesn't matter who takes them or who publishes them. Do I think she ought to be labeled as a "sex offender". No. But this type of behavior must be stopped. |
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Posted: 3/27/2009 8:21:47 AM EDT
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Still pictures of herself, done entirely of her own free will. Nope. Society has determined that minor children cannot make decisions such as that for themselves. They are unable to "give consent". That is why a minor girl cannot "give consent" to an adult to have sex with her. She is a juvenile and cannot legally give consent. |
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Posted: 3/27/2009 8:27:43 AM EDT
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Still pictures of herself, done entirely of her own free will. Nope. Society has determined that minor children cannot make decisions such as that for themselves. They are unable to "give consent". That is why a minor girl cannot "give consent" to an adult to have sex with her. She is a juvenile and cannot legally give consent. If she can't give consent for an adult to take naked photographs of her, then how can she be held responsible for taking pics herself? If an adult had taken the pics and sent them to his perv friends, would we charge the girl with a crime? If she is going to be treated as an adult, then what was done was not a crime. Can't have it both ways. |
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Posted: 3/27/2009 8:30:59 AM EDT
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The girl needs a whop upside the head something fierce. But sex offender status? Who did she offend? She offended "Society". the Collective. Society The Collective has determined that we will not tolerate pornographic pictures of children to be published. It doesn't matter who takes them or who publishes them. Do I think she ought to be labeled as a "sex offender". No. But this type of behavior must be stopped. |
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Posted: 3/27/2009 8:32:48 AM EDT
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If she can't give consent for an adult to take naked photographs of her, then how can she be held responsible for taking pics herself? If an adult had taken the pics and sent them to his perv friends, would we charge the girl with a crime? If she is going to be treated as an adult, then what was done was not a crime. Can't have it both ways. Actually, I believe she should be charged as a juvenile. Juveniles are held to a lower standard for the very reasons I listed. They are "unable" to make adult decisions. I do not believe that she should be labeled as a sex offender. |
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Posted: 3/27/2009 8:35:00 AM EDT
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This country is going full retard. Does anyone have any common sense anymore? Also, why are nearly all young girls whores all of the sudden? WTF is happening. Yep. 
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Posted: 3/27/2009 8:35:02 AM EDT
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The girl needs a whop upside the head something fierce. But sex offender status? Who did she offend? She offended "Society". the Collective. Society The Collective has determined that we will not tolerate pornographic pictures of children to be published. It doesn't matter who takes them or who publishes them. Do I think she ought to be labeled as a "sex offender". No. But this type of behavior must be stopped. I suppose you think you have made some "really important point" by changing "Society" to "collective". But you live in our Society, whether you like it or not. And Society has every right to make laws to govern the behavior of those that live in it. |
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Posted: 3/27/2009 8:37:55 AM EDT
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I don't see any good reason to charge her with taking pictures of herself. That just seems like nonsense to me. Mom needs to kick the girls ass and maybe choke some sense into her, but charging her with child porn? 
-K QFT!!!! Prosecuting the girl for taking nude photos of herself is absolutely stupid!
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Posted: 3/27/2009 8:39:40 AM EDT
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The girl needs a whop upside the head something fierce. But sex offender status? Who did she offend? She offended "Society". the Collective. Society The Collective has determined that we will not tolerate pornographic pictures of children to be published. It doesn't matter who takes them or who publishes them. Do I think she ought to be labeled as a "sex offender". No. But this type of behavior must be stopped. I suppose you think you have made some "really important point" by changing "Society" to "collective". But you live in our Society, whether you like it or not. And Society has every right to make laws to govern the behavior of those that live in it. +1. If we stop governing amongst ourselves, it's not long at all until we stop being a 'society'. |
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Posted: 3/27/2009 8:45:36 AM EDT
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Take a bow Brittany Spears and Paris Hilton. You Turn little girls into skeezos like yerselves. When I was in high school, I knew of several girls that sent nude photos to boys, and Britney Spears and Paris Hilton were still in grade school somewhere. Cell phone cameras and social networking sites just make it easier for the girls to do this. |
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Posted: 3/27/2009 8:48:16 AM EDT
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The girl needs a whop upside the head something fierce. But sex offender status? Who did she offend? She offended "Society". the Collective. Society The Collective has determined that we will not tolerate pornographic pictures of children to be published. It doesn't matter who takes them or who publishes them. Do I think she ought to be labeled as a "sex offender". No. But this type of behavior must be stopped. I suppose you think you have made some "really important point" by changing "Society" to "collective". But you live in our Society, whether you like it or not. And Society has every right to make laws to govern the behavior of those that live in it. The power to =/= the right to. |
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Posted: 3/27/2009 8:56:21 AM EDT
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Take a bow Brittany Spears and Paris Hilton. You Turn little girls into skeezos like yerselves. Parents are responsible for the values and morals they instill in their children. Absolutely right! It's the lack of parental discipline, morals, and boundaries that have created the problems we're seeing in today's youth. Parents trying to be friends, rather than role models and disciplinarians. |
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Posted: 3/27/2009 8:59:49 AM EDT
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She offended "Society". Society has determined that we will not tolerate pornographic pictures of children to be published. It doesn't matter who takes them or who publishes them. Do I think she ought to be labeled as a "sex offender". No. But this type of behavior must be stopped. I disagree. It isn't the pictures that we decided not to tolerate. What we decided was victimizing/exploiting children for sex was wrong. There is no victim in this case. Children have sex and thats all this is. We may not approve of her behavior but correcting that behavior is not the responsibility of the legal system. It is the responsibility of the parent. |
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Posted: 3/27/2009 8:59:51 AM EDT
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Nice to see they are going to start treating this fairly regardless of the gender of the culprit. Getting tired of just seeing boys go down for this crime when it all started with the girl.
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Posted: 3/27/2009 9:04:08 AM EDT
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The crime is If anyone of us recieves that in a message to our phone without our knowing who or where it came from we can be charged with the crime.. Those laws are wrong also... what happened to innocent until PROVEN guilty.. Now we have to prove our innocence.. Accuse your neighbor of something like sexual harrasment. Not charge him with it.. Just accuse them of it.. If I remember correctly there is a quote that goes something like this.... To control the people all you have to do is make so many laws that is impossible for the people to know which ones they are breaking . Then you can arrest them for anything and they will believe they are in the wrong and will be enslaved..From the communist manefesto??? or by chairman Mao Tse Tung??? My history on quotes is not the best But im sure I read that somewhere....
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Posted: 3/27/2009 9:31:03 AM EDT
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This happened some time ago (>6 months), unless it's ANOTHER one
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Posted: 3/27/2009 9:51:17 AM EDT
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ummmmmmmm
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Posted: 3/27/2009 9:52:29 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/27/2009 9:53:05 AM EDT
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This happened some time ago (>6 months), unless it's ANOTHER one .this was on the local news here this morning. |
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Posted: 3/27/2009 9:53:36 AM EDT
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ZOMG, kids saw each other naked. The end is nigh.
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Posted: 3/27/2009 9:57:55 AM EDT
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Still pictures of herself, done entirely of her own free will. Nope. Society has determined that minor children cannot make decisions such as that for themselves. They are unable to "give consent". That is why a minor girl cannot "give consent" to an adult to have sex with her. She is a juvenile and cannot legally give consent. If she can't give consent for an adult to take naked photographs of her, then how can she be held responsible for taking pics herself? If an adult had taken the pics and sent them to his perv friends, would we charge the girl with a crime? If she is going to be treated as an adult, then what was done was not a crime. Can't have it both ways. Logic bomb! |
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Posted: 3/27/2009 10:01:48 AM EDT
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Still pictures of herself, done entirely of her own free will. Nope. Society has determined that minor children cannot make decisions such as that for themselves. They are unable to "give consent". That is why a minor girl cannot "give consent" to an adult to have sex with her. She is a juvenile and cannot legally give consent. If she can't give consent for an adult to take naked photographs of her, then how can she be held responsible for taking pics herself? If an adult had taken the pics and sent them to his perv friends, would we charge the girl with a crime? If she is going to be treated as an adult, then what was done was not a crime. Can't have it both ways. Logic bomb! Sounds solid to me. Of course the only thing logic and law have in common is the letter L. |
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