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Posted: 10/25/2002 10:32:57 AM EDT
[#1]
I for one see this as a great tragedy.
A man and his family has died a horrible death. I tip my hat to our adversary. I would have liked to beat him in the election. Not like this. How we treat our enemies as well as how we treat our friends, shows what we are made of. DON'T forget that. If you are so pathetic to post your joy over this, I feel very sorry for you. Tony[:|] |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 10:35:21 AM EDT
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So, people will have the choice of voting for the Repub, or a dead man. Most will choose the Repub. But, and this is a big but, if Wellstone somehow wins then Ventura may appoint the Republican anyway. I take it you've never been here before. The thing that disappoints me the most, is that now after several months of political ads we're now going to have to put up with 2 months of the local press mourning this guys death. Now any loss of life is tragic, but I won't miss him. |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 10:37:00 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: RIP, he was a good man. Also, SOME MORONS ON HERE NEED TO KEEP THEIR KKK VIEWS TO THEMSELVES. You must be lost, troll-boy. I'm about as sorry for this as I would be to see a bus containing Sarah Brady, Naomi Seligman, Barbra Streisand, Schumer, Kennedy, and McCarthy back over a cliff. Ok, maybe I was being a little too liberal there. It's just when ppl say things like "This gives me an idea--get all the anti-gun assholes together on one plane headed to a big "ban them all" rally someplace and then hit it with shoulder launched missile a la Flight 800. Now that's what I call government reform!" This really hurts the pro-gun image. I'm just trying to show to the people viewing these boards that we don't think like this. Sorry. Will be interesting to see how this affects the race. |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 10:39:02 AM EDT
[#4]
You're right, there's no need to say stuff like that...but I'm not going to shed any tears when one of them shuffles off this mortal coil, any more than they do for one of us.
They are the enemy. |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 10:39:42 AM EDT
[#5]
How we treat our enemies as well as how we treat our friends, shows what we are made of "treat" implies an action towards someone, none of us killed him or tortured him. I think some of us are just expressing the fact that this man was an enemy of much of what we hold dear, and we are better off without him. |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 10:41:56 AM EDT
[#6]
Well said!
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Posted: 10/25/2002 10:43:46 AM EDT
[#7]
From CNN Online:
[b]Under Minnesota law, if a nominee in a Senate race dies during a campaign, his or her political party can select a replacement candidate no later than four days before the general election. Election Day this year is November 5.[/b] Hmmmm. Wonder how the Democrats are going to change that clearly worded passage into a free pass for another shot? Eric The(Well?)Hun[>]:)] |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 10:46:42 AM EDT
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Quoted: RIP, he was a good man. Also, SOME MORONS ON HERE NEED TO KEEP THEIR KKK VIEWS TO THEMSELVES. You characterized senator Wellstone as a "good man". Would you care to expound on this description? MORONS??? Why are you yelling at us? What "KKK views" are you talking about? I just finished reviewing this thread and nowhere are there any comments that could in any way be construed as being representative of the evil rants, positions, beliefs, or opinions of the KKK or any other like organization. You are clearly out of line by painting any of us here with that brush. Or is your angry statement made just because you are a [b]LIBERAL [newbie] TROLL from the Democratic Underground lurking around, and are pissed off that the Democrats just lost their majority in the Senate?[/b] Could that be your main pain, bunkie? If so, get over it. The Dems just lost the most liberal member of congress. [b]TROLL ALERT![/B] [:K] [:K] [:K] [:K] |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 10:47:14 AM EDT
[#9]
It is indeed a tragedy for the Wellstone family and friends. Our condolences.
This certainly has the potential to greatly affect the political landscape in the Senate. An example: From AP: "Liberal to the end, Wellstone cast his vote earlier this month against legislation to authorize the use of force in Iraq — the only Democrat in a competitive race to go against Bush on the issue." |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 10:51:26 AM EDT
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Quoted: From CNN Online: [b]Under Minnesota law, if a nominee in a Senate race dies during a campaign, his or her political party can select a replacement candidate no later than four days before the general election. Election Day this year is November 5.[/b] Hmmmm. Wonder how the Democrats are going to change that clearly worded passage into a free pass for another shot? Eric The(Well?)Hun[>]:)] "...no later that four days before...???" Don't understand Hun. Please do your lawyer shit and 'splain to me. It appears to me that they have four more days. Just curious... |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 10:52:45 AM EDT
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I wasn't sure how I felt when this first came out. I wanted to feel bad for him and his family. Then I thought about how he voted to take my money, my labor. He voted to take my freedom. How can I feel bad about someone who would vote to take half of what my parents earned during their lives. As far as I'm concerned he is no better than a thief, stealing my freedom and livelyhood. He also indoctrinated students with his political views when he was supposed to be teaching at Carlton College in Minnesota, trying to make more communists.
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Posted: 10/25/2002 10:54:41 AM EDT
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This has all the makings of another Carnahan...
Mel Carnahan was facing a close race with Ashcroft, with the poll numbers slightly favoring Ashcroft. Carnahan dies in a plane crash, resulting in the DemocRATS electing a dead man on the sympathy vote. Paul Wellstone was facing a close race with Colemen, with the poll numbers slightly favoring Colemen. Wellstone dies in a plane crash. You can speculate on the effect it may have on the election. Can lightning strike twice? Hopefully Coleman learned from Ashcroft's mistake. |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 10:57:21 AM EDT
[#13]
NOT happy about the man's death nor that of his family or the other passengers/crew.
I refuse, however, to mourn the loss of an enemy of the United States of America. I predict a democRAT victory in Minnesota. Big "sympathy" vote instead of votes based on fact. Tired of hearing the talking heads on tv go on and on about his "passion". Statlin had "passion". Mao had "passion". So what? |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 10:59:09 AM EDT
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He was truly the enemny of all Americans. Not a tear will be shed for him, much as if any of Americas enemies met an untimely death.
Politics is war boys, most of the time it is bloodless, this time it wasn't. Wellstone would have stabbed your children in the hearts to advance his disgusting agenda, and you people will mouth words of sorrow over his death? |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 11:01:20 AM EDT
[#15]
He must have had some dirt on the clintons. People who have dirt about the clintons seem to just have these freak accidents all the time!
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Posted: 10/25/2002 11:03:53 AM EDT
[#16]
1) Threaten to take away their baseball team until they all vote Republican.
2) When they do, take it away anyway. |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 11:04:51 AM EDT
[#17]
Life goes on. Win the damn election. For the RKBA and free men everywhere.
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Posted: 10/25/2002 11:06:22 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: From CNN Online: [b]Under Minnesota law, if a nominee in a Senate race dies during a campaign, his or her political party can select a replacement candidate no later than four days before the general election. Election Day this year is November 5.[/b] Hmmmm. Wonder how the Democrats are going to change that clearly worded passage into a free pass for another shot? Eric The(Well?)Hun[>]:)] "...no later that four days before...???" Don't understand Hun. Please do your lawyer shit and 'splain to me. It appears to me that they have four more days. Just curious... NOT later than 4 days before... What's LATER than 4 days before the election? 3 days, 2 days, 1 day BEFORE the election. Say the election is on a Friday. 4 days (depending on how you count--here, not including Friday) BEFORE friday is Monday. So, they could not choose a candidate LATER than the Monday prior to the election on Friday. In other words, they can still put someone on the ballot up to 4 days before the election. Simple huh? |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 11:09:58 AM EDT
[#19]
Here's the BIG QUESTION...
[b]Can we get a Senate vote on Bush's Judicial Nominees before the General Election?[/b] |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 11:12:20 AM EDT
[#20]
Doubtful.
Even if they have to turn over control, there is not enough votes to invoke cloture. The Dems will just filibuster till the end of the session. |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 11:14:11 AM EDT
[#21]
Make'm.
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Posted: 10/25/2002 11:16:19 AM EDT
[#22]
Now is NOT the time for gentlemanly politics. Now is the time for sharp swords.
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Posted: 10/25/2002 11:16:58 AM EDT
[#23]
Im in Minnesota.
Paul Wellstone is either hated or loved. There is very little in-between. Personally, I hated the man. He was evil, devicive and an absolute Communist. He was a TRAITOR to the Constitution and a career politician. I have NEVER felt that he represented me as human. As for people dying, it is sad when ANYONE dies. I can honestly say that I feel sorry for him, his family and everyone aboard that they died. I would have been perfectly happy if he had just lost the Senate race. On the other hand, I look at it as [b][size=5]DIVINE INTERVENTION[/size=5][/b]. (Prefaced to say that God does NOT kill people, he LETS them kill themselves) |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 11:21:19 AM EDT
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Sorry Guys, but I am Minnesota born-and-bred and Wellstone was the worst politician to ever come out of that state (much worse than Humphrey and Mondale, who were both reasonably honest). Wellstone lied about his term limit, lied about opponents records, and blocked decent and pro-gun judges from sitting on the federal bench.
I will shed more tears when Saddam Hussein dies. GunLvr |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 11:28:39 AM EDT
[#25]
Wow who would of thought something like this would happen. I heard about it on the radio on my commute home and was completely shocked. Mind boggling....
Until I heard the people on the radio saying "after the first reports of the plane going down, I know all of us were hoping that maybe wellstone wasn't on board, or that maybe it was someone else's plane." [b]Those bastards. It would have been so much better if it was one of us peons, huh?[/b] Maybe I am especially aware of this since my father used to be a pilot and my brother is currently an airline pilot. These freaks just said that it's a shame that wellstone died, but implied [b]it is no big deal when good men like my brother and father die[/b]. Damned socialists, I hate them all. Then Moe (the democrat running for govenor, who has openly declared that he will veto any shall-issue legislation) had a press conference and [b]politicized the whole thing[/b] by saying "in the hearts of minnesotans, wellstone had already won the election," etc. Infuriating. [pissed] |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 11:30:18 AM EDT
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Hopefully a pickup for the GOP, with control of the Senate until the election and after.
It might just be me, but I have no sympathy for my enemies losses. At one time we had the "loyal opposition" which while possessing different ideas about how to achieve goals, still had what was best for the nation at heart. This is no longer the case, there is a clear division between those who seek liberty and those who would impose tyranny. Wellstone sought to wreak havoc on our most cherished freedoms. My only disappointment is that Kennedy was not on the plane. |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 11:34:46 AM EDT
[#27]
Kennedy? I would have been overjoyed to have donated a clinton and a schumer also.
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Posted: 10/25/2002 11:36:20 AM EDT
[#28]
Wellstone is black?? You need to have your eyes examined...
[img]http://www.foxnews.com/images/69723/4_41_102502_wellstone.jpg[/img] |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 11:39:49 AM EDT
[#29]
Quoted: Wellstone is black?? You need to have yoru eyes examined... [url]http://www.foxnews.com/images/69723/4_41_102502_wellstone.jpg[/url] I flush Wellstones down the toilet every day. Most of them are more BROWN than white. Some of them have corn in them. Some don't. The ones that come after a day of eating cheese are the ones I really hate...I digress. |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 11:40:37 AM EDT
[#30]
I guess the GOP is serious about winning back the senate.
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Posted: 10/25/2002 11:42:58 AM EDT
[#31]
The man was a liar. A very very big liar who did much damage to this country. I don't like it when folks die and it's sad when they do, but this man was a wicked man as was his wife who was equally radical. I met Mr.Wellstone at a rally at the DECC auditorium in Duluth, MN earlier this year and I told him I thought he was wrong in many respects and that he needed to keep his word when he promised not to run for a third term. He said smilingly "I'm sorry that you feel that way." It's terrible when people die in a manner like this but I don't grieve for him.
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Posted: 10/25/2002 11:45:54 AM EDT
[#32]
I guess the GOP is serious about winning back the senate. Well according to StyerAUG the DU is convinced that he was assinated, and that they were trying to get Teddie as well. |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 11:49:08 AM EDT
[#33]
I cheer for Wellstone's death just as would cheer for Saddam Hussein or Osama Bin Laden's death; all are an enemy of freedom. The only loss of life on that plane was the crew and the other passengers.
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Posted: 10/25/2002 11:53:12 AM EDT
[#34]
Wellstone tragedy is driving evil DUer's to drink!
[b]Looks like it will be ice on the wings and pilot error. I will apologize now for my rambling, but I have never been so close to hysterics. I had to leave the office and come home where I broke one of my rules and pored my self a double shot. I called both Coleman's office and state Republican office and told them to let Bush know that no one believes it was an accident and don't assume they'll get by with it this time. I was hung up on both times and they will get by with it. But, all I was doing was reporting the reaction of people at work - even the more apolitical types immediately said 'Bush killed him.' The only bit of luck we had today was that Ted Kennedy was with Wellstone in the metro area earlier this morning. At first there was some speculation that he had accompanied Wellstone up north so they could continue campainging together later. I will never never never believe this was accident. [/b] Freaking morons. And this is rich too: Bush killed JFK Jr. [whacko] [b]that "Bush killed him." Jesus Christ, how much more obvious could it be? They already DID this with Carnahan and JFK Jr. The anthrax to Daschle and Leahy was a warning, and they backed off. Wellstone WOULDN'T BACK OFF and so they killed him There is no doubt in my mind. [/b] |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 11:54:26 AM EDT
[#35]
Quoted: Sorry Guys, but I am Minnesota born-and-bred and Wellstone was the worst politician to ever come out of that state (much worse than Humphrey and Mondale, who were both reasonably honest). Wellstone lied about his term limit, lied about opponents records, and blocked decent and pro-gun judges from sitting on the federal bench. I will shed more tears when Saddam Hussein dies. GunLvr Truth spoken. And Wellstone, being in an exceedingly horrible place right now, knows the absolute truth and error of his ways. Unfortunately for him he was on the wrong side when he died and he is very much aware of that at this moment. As we write he is being held over for the judgement. Sad that he did not change his ways while there was time. |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 12:00:23 PM EDT
[#36]
Two words for the DU.
[size=6]Vince Foster[/size=6] |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 12:02:25 PM EDT
[#37]
Wellstone is black?? You need to have yoru eyes examined... If this is directed towards my post "good one, etc..." I WAS KIDDING, I was just trying to make the 'all you KKK comments' look stupid. |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 12:11:23 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted: I guess the GOP is serious about winning back the senate. Well according to StyerAUG the DU is convinced that he was assinated, and that they were trying to get Teddie as well. Well whoever "they" are, "they" need to do a better job next time. I can't believe Ted Kennedy gets a pass AGAGIN! Lucky lucky fat man, lucky man. How's that Tolkein quote go? Something about how some that deserve life get death, and many that deserve death receive life? Anyway, the only reason I'm not happy about this is because it may lead to the Democrats getting another dead man elected. Other than that, the number of people in this country that threaten America has just decreased by one, and I didn't have to lift a finger to make it happen. All enemies, foreign and domestic, folks, foreign and domestic. Not all enemies of this nation are Muslim and wear turbans on their heads. Some wear a smile and shake your hand and promise you a handout. |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 12:12:48 PM EDT
[#39]
If anyone killed Paul Wellstone it was members of his own party.
Trying to get a bounce for a loosing canidate like they got with Carnahan two years ago. |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 12:20:57 PM EDT
[#40]
To those of you worried that a dead wellstone will be elected, as I understand things minnesota allows the parties to replace a dead candidate up to four days before the election. Whether or not they [b]require[/b] that replacement to be made, I don't know yet.
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Posted: 10/25/2002 12:31:00 PM EDT
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"The Body" just had a press confrence.
Said it was not appropriate to discuss who would replace Wellstone for the remander of this term. But he did rule himself out. He said he would not appoint himself to the seat. |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 1:10:03 PM EDT
[#42]
Quoted: "The Body" just had a press confrence. Said it was not appropriate to discuss who would replace Wellstone for the remander of this term. But he did rule himself out. He said he would not appoint himself to the seat. [tin foil hat mode on] Its a lie! Governor Ventura shot down the plane with the help of Arnold Schwartzennegger, who is going to be his appointee! Its a vast consipracy of ex-action-movie-turned-politician demagouges! We've got to ban Hollywood now, before its too late! See, first Arnold blinds the airplane pilot with his incredible muzzle flash: [img]http://thesmartmarks.com/artman/uploads/arnshoot.jpg[/img] Jesse barely ducks out of the way as the plane crashes behind him: [img]http://thesmartmarks.com/artman/uploads/jessebang.jpg[/img] [/tin foil hat mode off] This post does not reflect the views of AR15.com or anyone but --BATMAN--, who doesn't give a rat's ass about the most liberal asshole on capitol hill OR his family, which were no doubt just as condescending and liberal as he was. Now it's --BATMAN--'s turn to be condescending. So sue me. |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 1:26:50 PM EDT
[#43]
Holy fvcking shit BATMAN!!!
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Posted: 10/25/2002 1:27:47 PM EDT
[#44]
Holy fvcking shit BATMAN!!!
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Posted: 10/25/2002 1:33:58 PM EDT
[#45]
I will mourn the loss of the Pilots and crew.
I will mourn the loss of the senator's children (if any). I will mourn the loss of a perfectly good aircraft. I will mourn the loss of a prefectly good wooded area in Virginia. From what everyone has said about his politics, his death is not to be mourned. But I will mourn that Ted Kennedy was not aboard too. |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 1:50:19 PM EDT
[#46]
Damn, I just changed my sig. line.
Thanks, BATMAN. |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 1:52:45 PM EDT
[#47]
[img]http://thesmartmarks.com/artman/uploads/arnshoot.jpg[/img]
Now where did I put that flash supressor? |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 2:07:23 PM EDT
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Quoted: Wellstone would have stabbed your children in the hearts to advance his disgusting agenda, and you people will mouth words of sorrow over his death? Hielo: You, like your Father, are a good man! (I'm really glad that you took over his acct.) [:D] |
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Posted: 10/25/2002 2:15:13 PM EDT
[#49]
Well, I'm drinking to this guy's death tonight. Good riddance. Seen and read about enough people dying in the last 1.5 years that I just don't give two shits about this guy. I feel a little sorry for what his family will go through, but thats about it. Good riddance.
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Posted: 10/25/2002 5:25:54 PM EDT
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Quoted: RIP, he was a good man. Also, SOME MORONS ON HERE NEED TO KEEP THEIR KKK VIEWS TO THEMSELVES. Wellstone was the closest thing to a communist we've ever had in the senate. When, often, a vote would go 99-1, with him being the sole dissenting voice, his apologists would characterize him as an "independent thinker." Independent my ass! The Soviet Union has disintegrated and this guy's still picking up their transmission in his KGB-supplied false tooth! I am angry at the loss of life and just as angry that he didn't live to go down to defeat next month. Even democrats I know were appalled at his senate debate performance, which was really quite embarassing for him. The media was raking him over the coals for some promise he broke about running again as well. Now everything is up in the air. Mourning the loss of human life is one thing, but if you think one of the worst GUN-GRABBERS ever is a "good man," and at the same time you enjoy the company of GUN OWNERS on a GUN BOARD... [img]http://thewolfweb.com/photos/BamaPack/fullsize/4092.jpg[/img] Quoted: Or is your angry statement made just because you are a [b]LIBERAL [newbie] TROLL from the Democratic Underground lurking around, and are pissed off that the Democrats just lost their majority in the Senate?[/b] [b]TROLL ALERT![/B] [:K] [:K] [:K] [:K] Good call. I think you nailed him perfectly. The knee-jerk name calling, whether on target or not, just couldn't be restrained! [:D] He's revealed himself now though. |
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