Warning

 

Close
Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Cancel Confirm
AR15.COM
Previous Page
/ 3
Next Page
4/21/2015 2:49:59 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote History
Quoted:



The old Pipers were built like tanks.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
It certainly looks like Piper builds the fuck out of an aircraft.....    



The old Pipers were built like tanks.


I can't remember all the models, but I do recall a few pipers that had external strengthening members on the bottom of the fuselage.  Not intended as "skids", but they did function as such.
4/21/2015 2:51:00 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote History
Quoted:

He used up every bit of luck he had right there.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Hope he bought a lottery ticket.

He used up every bit of luck he had right there.


Yeah, at this point, if he buys a lottery ticket, the state's gonna come by after the drawing and tell him he owes a million dollars.
4/21/2015 2:51:57 PM EDT
[#3]


Supposedly the same plane "after" photo.
4/21/2015 2:52:22 PM EDT
[#4]


Ooops. Bet that was expensive.
4/21/2015 2:53:50 PM EDT
[#5]





This guy flew 150 miles or so back to base after hitting the ground in enemy territory.
4/21/2015 2:54:20 PM EDT
[#6]
I didn't see any mention of the interior. Wonder how they got that smell out.
4/21/2015 2:57:51 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote History
Quoted:


Then flew 110+ miles to FLL past WPB along with many other smaller airports.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Looks like he hovered around the stall speed on takeoff.  Stupid and lucky.


Then flew 110+ miles to FLL past WPB along with many other smaller airports.



He wanted to make sure he'd beaten the shit out of the engines and thoroughly rattled the crap out of the airframe.   He doesn't mention the abuse in his for sale ad.  Imagine that.

What's his screen name in EE?
4/21/2015 3:09:08 PM EDT
[#8]
pretty amazing that the props didnt come apart
arent those props aluminum?
sure seems like with that much imbalance metal fatigue would be inevitable
4/21/2015 3:15:12 PM EDT
[#9]
Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.
4/21/2015 3:18:42 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote History
Quoted:


Don't laugh.   I know a Herc(C-130) that did that very thing.   Warning horn and all.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Wonder if the gear warning horn was blowing and he was like "what's that going off for?"


Don't laugh.   I know a Herc(C-130) that did that very thing.   Warning horn and all.


If you're going to end your military aviation career, might as well do it in style!
4/21/2015 3:24:08 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote History
Quoted:


If you're going to end your military aviation career, might as well do it in style!
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Wonder if the gear warning horn was blowing and he was like "what's that going off for?"


Don't laugh.   I know a Herc(C-130) that did that very thing.   Warning horn and all.


If you're going to end your military aviation career, might as well do it in style!


You mean like this guy? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Hunter_Tower_Bridge_incident

=>
4/21/2015 3:26:20 PM EDT
[#12]
That plane is now for sale...

"needs props"

http://www.trade-a-plane.com/detail/aircraft/Multi+Engine+Piston/1970/Aerostar/601/2076612.html
4/21/2015 3:26:42 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote History
Quoted:
Gotta give props to that guy for not crashing.
View Quote


Well he owns two now.
4/21/2015 3:26:49 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote History
Quoted:
Dragging his plane down the runway for that "well used" look
View Quote


That's how you're supposed to break in a rifle.
4/21/2015 3:32:54 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote History
Quoted:



I've known a couple good, experienced pilots that have landed gear up.

The right distraction at the right time can provide for what I am sure is a very special 'oh shit' moment.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Wonder if the gear warning horn was blowing and he was like "what's that going off for?"


Don't laugh.   I know a Herc(C-130) that did that very thing.   Warning horn and all.



I've known a couple good, experienced pilots that have landed gear up.

The right distraction at the right time can provide for what I am sure is a very special 'oh shit' moment.

Watched a guy in a Cessna Caravan land wheels up on a set of amphibious floats.
4/21/2015 3:35:26 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote History
Quoted:
He got extremely lucky that he was able to climb out after damaging his props like that.  Amazing.  Continuing with the gear-up landing after initial prop contact would probably have been smarter than firewalling it, but somehow this guy got away with it.  I wonder if some nice gentleman from the FAA will be giving him a call.
View Quote

Oh yeah, he just got himself some unwanted attention
4/21/2015 3:39:42 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Wonder if the gear warning horn was blowing and he was like "what's that going off for?"


Don't laugh.   I know a Herc(C-130) that did that very thing.   Warning horn and all.


If you're going to end your military aviation career, might as well do it in style!


You mean like this guy? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Hunter_Tower_Bridge_incident

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/Hawker_hunter_t7_blue_diamond_in_planform_arp.jpg/220px-Hawker_hunter_t7_blue_diamond_in_planform_arp.jpg => http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/LondonTowerBridge2004-08-03.jpg/220px-LondonTowerBridge2004-08-03.jpg


No, that's not style...that's panache!
4/21/2015 3:40:11 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote History
Quoted:



"No image available"  HA!

From the listing:

1970 AEROSTAR 601, 230 HRS SMOH ON ENGINES, NEEDS PROPS, 2297 TT, IFR, GPS 430s, (FXE) FL. CALL FOR MORE INFORMATION.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Soooooo, will something like this total an aircraft?

I assume after an impact like that both engines need to be completely torn down/rebuilt. The air frame needs to be looked over totally, etc. Right?



A nice gentle scraping can usually be repaired.  Yes to the props being totaled.  Personally, I would rebuild the engines.  I have heard of engines being inspected and ok'd to fly after a strike, especially if the strike causes the engine/s to stop.  Aerostar being mid-wing may have helped immensely.

Here is the plane for sale:  (not sure when this was posted, no mention of hull damage)  http://www.trade-a-plane.com/detail/aircraft/Multi+Engine+Piston/1970/Aerostar/601/2076612.html



"No image available"  HA!

From the listing:

1970 AEROSTAR 601, 230 HRS SMOH ON ENGINES, NEEDS PROPS, 2297 TT, IFR, GPS 430s, (FXE) FL. CALL FOR MORE INFORMATION.

AND sheet metal work AND a couple overhauls AND throttles unfused from the stops AND new upholstery.
4/21/2015 3:40:15 PM EDT
[#19]

Quote History
Quoted:


http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd229/aloxited_photos/Puddy_Tats/36.jpg



This guy flew 150 miles or so back to base after hitting the ground in enemy territory.

View Quote


Yea as I read somewhere he was so fixed on strafing something he hit his prop.



 
4/21/2015 3:41:57 PM EDT
[#20]

Quote History
Quoted:


Forgot 1 step in the landing sequence?  
View Quote
Lol gear down to go down

 






Tips to fly by
4/21/2015 3:42:09 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote History
Quoted:



He wanted to make sure he'd beaten the shit out of the engines and thoroughly rattled the crap out of the airframe.   He doesn't mention the abuse in his for sale ad.  Imagine that.

What's his screen name in EE?
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Looks like he hovered around the stall speed on takeoff.  Stupid and lucky.


Then flew 110+ miles to FLL past WPB along with many other smaller airports.



He wanted to make sure he'd beaten the shit out of the engines and thoroughly rattled the crap out of the airframe.   He doesn't mention the abuse in his for sale ad.  Imagine that.

What's his screen name in EE?

YellowMellow
4/21/2015 3:44:15 PM EDT
[#22]


Quote History
Quoted:
Are planes of that size equipped with them? I know commercial aircraft are but what about smaller ones?


View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:





Quoted:


Wonder if the gear warning horn was blowing and he was like "what's that going off for?"






Are planes of that size equipped with them? I know commercial aircraft are but what about smaller ones?


Oh yes, if I pull back past 15in while clean for any reason, and I get the horn

 










C177rg jockey checking in


 
4/21/2015 3:48:51 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote History
Quoted:


I bet he'd rudder not do that again.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Gotta give props to that guy for not crashing.

More impressive because he just winged it.



He's kind of skiddish to talk about it.


I bet he'd rudder not do that again.


I guess he just scraped by on that landing.
4/21/2015 3:53:36 PM EDT
[#24]
Somebody forgot to do his GUMPS check.
4/21/2015 4:04:45 PM EDT
[#25]
Ugh the sound of Aluminum scraping on asphalt.
4/21/2015 4:06:43 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote History
Quoted:
pretty amazing that the props didnt come apart
arent those props aluminum?
sure seems like with that much imbalance metal fatigue would be inevitable
View Quote


Aluminum will hold up pretty good for a while.

Composites tend to disintegrate.
4/21/2015 4:08:23 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote History
Quoted:


Are planes of that size equipped with them? I know commercial aircraft are but what about smaller ones?
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Wonder if the gear warning horn was blowing and he was like "what's that going off for?"


Are planes of that size equipped with them? I know commercial aircraft are but what about smaller ones?

Even 172RGs have them.
4/21/2015 4:15:50 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote History
Quoted:
Forgot 1 step in the landing sequence?  
View Quote

Off to a good start!
4/21/2015 4:19:43 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote History
Quoted:

Watched a guy in a Cessna Caravan land wheels up on a set of amphibious floats.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Wonder if the gear warning horn was blowing and he was like "what's that going off for?"


Don't laugh.   I know a Herc(C-130) that did that very thing.   Warning horn and all.



I've known a couple good, experienced pilots that have landed gear up.

The right distraction at the right time can provide for what I am sure is a very special 'oh shit' moment.

Watched a guy in a Cessna Caravan land wheels up on a set of amphibious floats.


Better than a water landing with wheels down.
4/21/2015 4:24:04 PM EDT
[#30]
4/21/2015 4:29:07 PM EDT
[#31]
I've heard of flying by the seat of the pants before, but this is the first time I've heard of someone flying by the short and curlies.  
4/21/2015 4:29:13 PM EDT
[#32]
I can't understand why he took it back airborne.
4/21/2015 4:34:12 PM EDT
[#33]
Video

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b41_1429465294
4/21/2015 4:34:37 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote History
Quoted:
I can't understand why he took it back airborne.
View Quote



I'd have done it just to get that scraping sound to stop
4/21/2015 4:43:26 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote History
Quoted:



A nice gentle scraping can usually be repaired.  Yes to the props being totaled.  Personally, I would rebuild the engines.  I have heard of engines being inspected and ok'd to fly after a strike, especially if the strike causes the engine/s to stop.  Aerostar being mid-wing may have helped immensely.

Here is the plane for sale:  (not sure when this was posted, no mention of hull damage)  http://www.trade-a-plane.com/detail/aircraft/Multi+Engine+Piston/1970/Aerostar/601/2076612.html
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Soooooo, will something like this total an aircraft?

I assume after an impact like that both engines need to be completely torn down/rebuilt. The air frame needs to be looked over totally, etc. Right?



A nice gentle scraping can usually be repaired.  Yes to the props being totaled.  Personally, I would rebuild the engines.  I have heard of engines being inspected and ok'd to fly after a strike, especially if the strike causes the engine/s to stop.  Aerostar being mid-wing may have helped immensely.

Here is the plane for sale:  (not sure when this was posted, no mention of hull damage)  http://www.trade-a-plane.com/detail/aircraft/Multi+Engine+Piston/1970/Aerostar/601/2076612.html


The ad should say, "Engines 0 time since gear up landing".  The only hint that it's not quite the deal as replacing the propellers is the "Rebuildable" comment, and I'll bet that is not an economical rebuild.
4/21/2015 4:50:18 PM EDT
[#36]

Quote History




 
4/21/2015 4:50:48 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote History
Quoted:
I can't understand why he took it back airborne.
View Quote


With no braking he would have skidded off the end of the runway, but that was a better choice than the chance he took.  I'm guessing he has never seen an airplane attempt to takeoff and climb with bent propellers.  Throw the book speeds out, that ain't gonna work.

4/21/2015 4:53:59 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote History


Plenty of witnesses!
4/21/2015 4:55:29 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote History
Quoted:


With no braking he would have skidded off the end of the runway, but that was a better choice than the chance he took.  I'm guessing he has never seen an airplane attempt to takeoff and climb with bent propellers.  Throw the book speeds out, that ain't gonna work.

View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
I can't understand why he took it back airborne.


With no braking he would have skidded off the end of the runway, but that was a better choice than the chance he took.  I'm guessing he has never seen an airplane attempt to takeoff and climb with bent propellers.  Throw the book speeds out, that ain't gonna work.



Exactly
4/21/2015 4:56:09 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote History


I know nothing about planes
but it sure looks like shortly after getting back in the throttle they came wicked close to putting that plane in the dirt
4/21/2015 4:59:11 PM EDT
[#41]
4/21/2015 5:03:51 PM EDT
[#42]
I think I'd have just left it on the ground.....  taking off again was stupid risky, but props to him for getting it back in the air
4/21/2015 5:06:29 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote History
Quoted:


Don't laugh.   I know a Herc(C-130) that did that very thing.   Warning horn and all.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Wonder if the gear warning horn was blowing and he was like "what's that going off for?"


Don't laugh.   I know a Herc(C-130) that did that very thing.   Warning horn and all.


And a B-1 Lancer at Diego Garcia, too!

Except for the taking back off part.  


4/21/2015 5:10:49 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote History
Quoted:
If he does that to his airplane, I wonder what he does to his ARs?

View Quote


now it has that thrown down the runway look that so many seek.
4/21/2015 5:12:17 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote History
Quoted:

Oh yeah, he just got himself some unwanted attention
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
He got extremely lucky that he was able to climb out after damaging his props like that.  Amazing.  Continuing with the gear-up landing after initial prop contact would probably have been smarter than firewalling it, but somehow this guy got away with it.  I wonder if some nice gentleman from the FAA will be giving him a call.

Oh yeah, he just got himself some unwanted attention


as long as he fills out the NASA form, he has a get out of jail card....
4/21/2015 5:14:00 PM EDT
[#46]
thats one lucky MFer
4/21/2015 5:15:42 PM EDT
[#47]
"Zero two sierra, what are your intentions ?"

"Standby tower, Googling prop shops on the go-around"
4/21/2015 5:16:41 PM EDT
[#48]

I bet his wife is making him sell the airplane.





4/21/2015 5:19:48 PM EDT
[#49]

Quote History
Quoted:
And a B-1 Lancer at Diego Garcia, too!





View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:



Quoted:


Quoted:

Wonder if the gear warning horn was blowing and he was like "what's that going off for?"




Don't laugh.   I know a Herc(C-130) that did that very thing.   Warning horn and all.




And a B-1 Lancer at Diego Garcia, too!





An AF General did an unintentional belly landing in a C-5 at Travis AFB in 1983.  He had been doing low passes over the runway prior to the incident, and he had turned off the gear warning horn.  On the real landing he forgot to lower the gear and the warning horn was still off.  



The Major in the right seat who was there to keep him out of trouble got most of the blame...of course.  They were able to fix the plane, but I'm sure it wasn't cheap.



 
4/21/2015 5:20:08 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote History
Quoted:


And a B-1 Lancer at Diego Garcia, too!

Except for the taking back off part.  


View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Wonder if the gear warning horn was blowing and he was like "what's that going off for?"


Don't laugh.   I know a Herc(C-130) that did that very thing.   Warning horn and all.


And a B-1 Lancer at Diego Garcia, too!

Except for the taking back off part.  




Not sure if I heard of that one.  Purposely or malfunction?

Sign up to continue the discussion

Create a free account to share your thoughts, follow topics, and connect with the AR15.COM community.

Already a member? Sign In

Previous Page
/ 3
Next Page