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Link Posted: 3/25/2009 3:32:17 AM EDT
[#1]
tag for JRS
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 3:40:50 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
First off I didn't read the text of the bill.  Second, he will be gone in 4-8 years so what he does can be undone.  Third, my children are NOT going to any mandatory nonsense no matter what party wants it.  They can - as always - kiss my ass.


What he said with a capital 'K'.
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 3:47:03 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Quoted:
First off I didn't read the text of the bill.  Second, he will be gone in 4-8 years so what he does can be undone.  Third, my children are NOT going to any mandatory nonsense no matter what party wants it.  They can - as always - kiss my ass.


What he said with a capital 'K'.


It's not that easy to overturn past legislation set forth by previous administrations.  In fact, it's rarely EVER done.
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 3:50:21 AM EDT
[#4]
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 3:55:53 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Ok, it's law.

So what now?

When do they start actually forcing people into this BS?

And, is it actually "forcing"?


Like, are they going to come get me and force me into a uniform?


wont be you..it will be your children
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 4:00:59 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
in before a certain member puts lipstick on it,,

I wrote this out in november of 08

How Obama is going to create his civilian home defence force 11/02/08
start with inner city youth in Chicago, LA, NY, DC, Miami, Dallas, Houston..
target 13 to 25 yr olds that dont have their heads on straight,
give a boy/man purpose and a goal, he will acheive.

give them a free uniform, free food, a place to crash, some walking around money, not much $100 a week
give them a sense of belonging
replace or become the father figure many of them don't have.

bring them into assigned housing, rules, set meal times. set class times, set TV times and bed times, if you dont do as told, youre out,,but,,let them back one more chance etc. carrot and stick.

get them in classes for no more than 3 hours a day. keeping attentions focused

broadcast on in house TV, with TVs in every room, hourly messages from the One, a computer animated program could put him in thier heads with different messages with out OBAMA seeing a single one.

group meals,
group classes
group chores
indoctrinate

Badges and medals for accomplisments
badges for showing up
badges for recruiting
medals for turning on or turning in neighbors or Parents

Self defense training to establish a sense of self and self-disipline
introduction to shooting sports
add the militaristic sense of unity and commaradre
Winnow our your future leaders,,
extra training,
extra walking around money,
a shinier uniform.
pick and choose your recuriters
train you Special Service Core of the new Homeland Defence Force.
yes, your puppy killers..

at the start of your third year, visits to local grammer schools, spouting the greatness of the HDF
indoctrination in the Govt day care centers
indoctrination schools where the Communists have already made an Iron Clad support system.


with in 4 years, there are over 3 million strong supportrs and members
double that every 2 years.

by the time he is apointed for his recordbreaking 3rd term..

your're America is long dead and buried..



IE all the local drug dealers, thugs, and gang bangers basically get a badge with power, and training to back it up...
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 4:02:17 AM EDT
[#7]
When these little hippy, cock suckers get shipped off and their hair cut..

Tell them..


It's Obama's fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Link Posted: 3/25/2009 4:05:18 AM EDT
[#8]
i couldn't get a kid in my neighborhood to mow the lawn for $40.00 an hour and you think the government is going to make them work for free??



if it ever gets off the ground, it's more likely to turn into some absurdly expensive form of worthless "community service" then some obama army. we'll end  up paying a million dollars a mile for litter free highways.















Link Posted: 3/25/2009 4:11:09 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
First off I didn't read the text of the bill...


So, what disctrict do you represent, congressman?
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 4:11:58 AM EDT
[#10]
What constitutes 10 hours of service?  Can it be documented by the parent?  here is what my monthly schedule would be for my kids:

neighborhood beautifucation projects - 1.5 hours

individual skills and coordination training - 4 hours (at the range)

picking up brass - 1 hour

physical fitness and self defense - 4 hours

Done!  
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 4:12:11 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
First off I didn't read the text of the bill.  Second, he will be gone in 4-8 years so what he does can be undone.  Third, my children are NOT going to any mandatory nonsense no matter what party wants it.  They can - as always - kiss my ass.


What he said with a capital 'K'.


It's not that easy to overturn past legislation set forth by previous administrations.  In fact, it's rarely EVER done.


Regardless...My ass is still in the kissing booth.
Me and mine will NOT be forced to volunteer.
I call it: Conscientious objection.
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 4:12:14 AM EDT
[#12]
Mandatory volunteerism? So? Who gets locked up for not "volunteering"? The parents? Kids? Both? So much for price of ammo going down anytime soon.
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 4:16:30 AM EDT
[#13]
TAG
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 4:18:09 AM EDT
[#14]
So I guess the Constitution is now officially out the window.


Fuck this shit. I am in the Army, but try and fucking make me or my wife do this shit.


Try it
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 4:20:53 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Don't be stupid.
Be a smartie.
Come and join
The Nazi Obama's party!



++++++1111
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 4:22:27 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Ok, it's law.

So what now?

When do they start actually forcing people into this BS?

And, is it actually "forcing"?


Like, are they going to come get me and force me into a uniform?


This law creates a commission to study mandatory national service, it does not create a program to require mandatory service.

However, when mandatory service IS enacted, I'm sure that it will include language to the effect that you will NOT be able to graduate high school or college unless the educational institution has verified that you have completed the required service. I'm sure there will be a government database of registered and "acceptable" organizations, and of everyone who participates, for ease of verification.




They already do this.  I had to do 75 hours community service to graduate high school.  Not sure what the requirement is now, but it's all the same bucket of shit.  I wonder how much "service" they would require of the youth?
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 4:26:16 AM EDT
[#17]
TAG
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 4:26:47 AM EDT
[#18]
Amazing all the Republican sell outs who voted for this toilet paper including my favorite RINO good ole McCain.
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 4:32:50 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
And so it begins...


Ummm... it started a while ago.

What are you going to do about it? Post disapproving smilies on a friendly forum?
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 4:34:21 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
What's with all the republicans supporting this?
We need a conservative party.


CONTROL.  The Republicans are just the other face of the same organization.
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 4:37:36 AM EDT
[#21]
sig heil motherfuckers
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 4:39:47 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Unbelievable................maybe america won't make this mistake again in 4 years.  Tagged.


Better get started , mid terms are in Nov 2010.





This.
I predict an upset for the Liberal critters currently in office.

Link Posted: 3/25/2009 4:43:37 AM EDT
[#23]
Obama Deception
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 4:44:14 AM EDT
[#24]
Both of my Senators voted "NAY"..... GOD BLESS KENTUCKY!!!
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 4:46:14 AM EDT
[#25]
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 4:46:58 AM EDT
[#26]
tag
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 4:49:19 AM EDT
[#27]
"Service guarantees citizenship."
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 4:52:05 AM EDT
[#28]
Is this a way for student's to pay back student loans?
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 4:53:47 AM EDT
[#29]
Unfriggin beleivable!!! The Boy Scouts are gonna have competition...
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 4:54:57 AM EDT
[#30]
fuck obama and his SS youth
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 4:55:10 AM EDT
[#31]
Wow, the first black president reinstates slavery.
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 4:55:43 AM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Wow, the first black president reinstates slavery.


How ironic.
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 5:02:55 AM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Wow, the first black president reinstates slavery.


How ironic.


Not really...it was probably the white half of him who did it.
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 5:12:51 AM EDT
[#34]

Link Posted: 3/25/2009 5:17:46 AM EDT
[#35]
Wow. Just wow.
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 5:20:29 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
And so it begins...


you aint seen bad yet.. but its commin..
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 5:24:50 AM EDT
[#37]
Damn you thought they couldn't.
Well they did!
All I can say is bring it!
We got to get ready for a bunch of dumb and brainless fucktards trying to boss people around.
All in the name of bring people together.
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 5:28:32 AM EDT
[#38]
4-h shooting sports program - focused on the development of the individual, while teaching the children how to safely enjoy shooting sports.

6 weeks, 1.5 hrs per week, +end of term party - tad over 10 hrs.  I don't think it should be forced, but can imagine a lot worse ways kids can spend 10 hrs.  (fwiw, we are not allowed to use targets that are in the likeness of a human - so no Osama targets allowed.

I have lived with quite a few Russian exchange students.  Funny thing is while pretty much have mandatory service (I think 1 or 2 years), none had a huge about of love for Mother Russia.
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 5:29:25 AM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
flame suite on



imo a lil compulsory service is exactly what todays me me me  generation needs


They should not have anything to do with the miltary, let's get that out of the way.
They aren't going to made to do anything in any group they have to participate in.
You need disciplined leaders with power to instill discipline (thinj boot camo). There will be no disciplined leaders , just older versions of themselves.
That cancels out the service to make them better.

Link Posted: 3/25/2009 5:31:34 AM EDT
[#40]
Mever mind, read op wrong...I just got up.
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 5:31:56 AM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Ok, it's law.

So what now?

When do they start actually forcing people into this BS?

And, is it actually "forcing"?


Like, are they going to come get me and force me into a uniform?


This law creates a commission to study mandatory national service, it does not create a program to require mandatory service.

However, when mandatory service IS enacted, I'm sure that it will include language to the effect that you will NOT be able to graduate high school or college unless the educational institution has verified that you have completed the required service. I'm sure there will be a government database of registered and "acceptable" organizations, and of everyone who participates, for ease of verification.



I feel a lawsuit coming on.
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 5:32:27 AM EDT
[#42]
Now we know the purpose of the AIG "scandel".  To draw attention away from this.
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 5:34:42 AM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Ok, it's law.

So what now?

When do they start actually forcing people into this BS?

And, is it actually "forcing"?


Like, are they going to come get me and force me into a uniform?


wont be you..it will be your children



Not while I breathe
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 5:46:23 AM EDT
[#44]
heheheh...

Well I dodged this draft at least...

Just told my hippie brother about it. He doesn't believe it... Maybe this'll be what it takes to get him into a real uniform to dodge the Civil Service.
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 5:48:59 AM EDT
[#45]
Well, looks like I'll get (radio)communications, seeing as how I am a HAM.

Jeremy
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 5:55:19 AM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Ok, it's law.

So what now?

When do they start actually forcing people into this BS?

And, is it actually "forcing"?


Like, are they going to come get me and force me into a uniform?


wont be you..it will be your children



Not while I breathe


Nor I.
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 5:56:50 AM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Ok, it's law.

So what now?

When do they start actually forcing people into this BS?

And, is it actually "forcing"?


Like, are they going to come get me and force me into a uniform?


wont be you..it will be your children



Not while I breathe


Nor I.


Mine either.

I'm too pissed to form thought that does not violate the CoC.....

Link Posted: 3/25/2009 5:57:49 AM EDT
[#48]
Devil's Advocate mode: [ON]

How many of you would have applauded this if it was a mandatory service act to join the military at age 18 for 2 or more years, by a Republican?

Devil's Advocate mode: [OFF]


(I do not condone this crap by Obama in ANY WAY FWIW, I'm only curious)
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 6:00:11 AM EDT
[#49]
Look closely at section 6104(b)(5 & 6)

(5) The effect on the Nation, on those who serve, and on the families of those who serve, if all individuals in the United States were expected to perform national service or were required to perform a certain amount of national service.

(6) Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.


Those 2 sections are under ideas to study. this law does nothing more than give money to study the effects of section 5 and 6 above. Read the whole thing. There is nothing making anything mandatory ..yet.



Link Posted: 3/25/2009 6:02:06 AM EDT
[#50]
Their is a better chance that the Kenyan can stand up and shit on his own head than my son "volunteering." Obongo can suck it.

Come and Take Him.
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