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Posted: 3/21/2009 4:10:42 PM EDT
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I'm not a huge fan of it. I just don't see the point of it.
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Posted: 3/21/2009 4:17:46 PM EDT
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My first pistol was an HK USP in .40, and I have been into it ever since. I think if you are using an already reliable gun in .40, like my Sig P239 or a Glock 23, it isn't an issue. I have shot a ton of .40 and I honestly cannot remember the last feed problem I had.
As for the snappy factor of .40, that is indeed true. I enjoy shooting .45 a lot more, but ammo is more expensive, etc. to make it my go to pistol caliber. Plus, .as we are seeing now, it is tough to find .45 and 9, while .40 still seems to be readily available. |
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Posted: 3/21/2009 4:18:09 PM EDT
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My XD 40 is flawless when decent ammo is put through it. My brother inlaw gave me several hundred rounds of wolf ammo and a few of those did not feed right but what do you expect from wolf. My XD has gone "BANG" every single time I have wanted it to, so far. |
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Posted: 3/21/2009 4:20:07 PM EDT
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For the gun or the ammo? I got the gun in a trade for a old sistema. I paid 37.00 for 100 rds of.40.
I shot my bdddy's Beretta 96, the 40S&W version of the 92, I zero mechanical problems. The problem with the 96 is that the recoil and muzzle flip(more quicker & sharper) is a bit more than the 45ACP guns that I've fired. Approx how mch did you pay? I just picked up a 500rd case of Winchester 180gr FMJ for $159 You can get UMC .40 at Wal Mart for 160 per 500 in the value pack every day price. |
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Posted: 3/21/2009 4:35:17 PM EDT
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Nothing wrong with 40S&W, still thoroughly controllable. If you can fire 45ACP, you can control a 40S&W.
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Sorry, I was just being an ass. There is nothing wrong with 9mm or .40 S&W... except that they aren't .45 ACP ETA: Warlord: Funny you should mention that. I have shot the 96 a couple times as well, and though there is definitely more recoil than on the 92, it seemed to me like it was smoother and less snappy than the 9mm. I guess it's all in perception. And a .45 aint a 10mm!!!! I am a 10mm fan, and firing one with the higher power loads is no different than firing a 45ACP +P load. The only problem with 10mm, ammo availability and/or empty cases since it is not all that popular. |
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Posted: 3/21/2009 4:37:12 PM EDT
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Nothing wrong with 40S&W, still thoroughly controllable. If you can fire 45ACP, you can control a 40S&W.
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Sorry, I was just being an ass. There is nothing wrong with 9mm or .40 S&W... except that they aren't .45 ACP ETA: Warlord: Funny you should mention that. I have shot the 96 a couple times as well, and though there is definitely more recoil than on the 92, it seemed to me like it was smoother and less snappy than the 9mm. I guess it's all in perception. And a .45 aint a 10mm!!!! I am a 10mm fan, and firing one with the higher power loads is no different than firing a 45ACP +P load. The only problem with 10mm, ammo availability and/or empty cases since it is not all that popular. Well said. .45 is nicer to shoot, but in no way is the .40 "too much gun" for someone. I mean it's not like we are talking about a 454 Casull here. |
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Posted: 3/21/2009 4:39:10 PM EDT
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For a sub-compact CCW gun, it is a good round. Certainly better than any 9mm. When the issue is serious, nothing beat the 45 acp.
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Posted: 3/21/2009 4:41:17 PM EDT
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I like it, its a fun caliber, especially out of my KT carbine.
180gr Gold Dots are the cats ass. I'm not a purist, I enjoy my 10mm, .45acp, 9x18mak etc... 
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Posted: 3/21/2009 4:49:51 PM EDT
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I have a G27 that I rotate as my carry gun between my XDm 9.
I love my G27 as its the first hand gun I bought the same day I turned 21. I think the 40 is a great cartridge that just gets abused here. |
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Posted: 3/21/2009 4:50:21 PM EDT
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I bought a 1911 but wasn't crazy about the fact that it only had a 7 round mag. So, I bought the Beretta 96FS because it is a hard hitting rd. and held more than the 1911. Then, Springfield came out with the XD45 that holds 13 in the mag, and 1 in the pipe. Wow! A 14 rd. 45!I still love the 96 tho, I use it for home protection, plus, if you've ever broken one down, you know it's got to be the easiest semi- auto in the world to clean.
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Posted: 3/21/2009 4:51:01 PM EDT
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In my opinion, .40 S&W has no place in my arsenal. It has the same penetration as 9mm+P and barely any added expansion, while having reduced ammo capacity and increased muzzle flip. It's not as useless as .357 Sig or especially .45 GAP, but I have no desire to own one.
Really, except for ammo for guns I own as curios (Mauser c96, CZ-82, etc.) the only automatic pistol calibers I have any interest in are 9mm, .45ACP, 10mm Auto, and 7.62 Tokarev. Well, and .22lr I guess. |
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Posted: 3/21/2009 5:01:16 PM EDT
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i carry a P2000 in .40 because the .40 is bigger than the 9mm and faster/has higher capacity than the .45acp....the .40 has a solid record with police departments for being a proven manstopper....my HK is, by far, the most reliable handgun i've ever owned
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Posted: 3/21/2009 5:05:13 PM EDT
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40 SW is a great round. I shoot 40 and 45, and in my opinion the 40 has more "felt recoil" than the slower 45.
If you have a 40 and want to get closer to 10mm performance, try Buffalo Bore's +P gold dots. Like 1100 fps with 180gr GD. Hardly wimpy. Caution, I don't think that the Glocks are intended to handle these +P rounds. Didn't the feds have problems with those 10mm handguns cracking when they went to 40? |
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Posted: 3/21/2009 5:13:37 PM EDT
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I rock the old school Sigma SW40F.
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Posted: 3/21/2009 5:17:22 PM EDT
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the problem with some 40s is the maker rebuilt a 9mm gun into a 40 cal and had problems asa result. as long s the gun was designed around the carteidge to start with and not converted froma different gun i belive they're fine. i have a hi point 40 that shoots just as well as any other pistol i own, and has a lifetime warranty to boot.
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Posted: 3/21/2009 5:24:20 PM EDT
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Huge fan here, my three current poly framed pistols are all in .40S&W, only have a sig P225 in 9mm and a .357 revolver. Got into the .40 during the ban, figured if you could only have 10 in the mag why not. That and its a pretty common police caliber, I figure that cant hurt if I ever have to shoot in self defense. YMMV. |
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Posted: 3/21/2009 5:29:55 PM EDT
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The 40 has very snappy recoil which sways some folks from using them, but they're a decent compromise between size and mag capacity. And right now they're one of the few calibers readily available at WalMart. I really cant tell the difference between 9, 40 or 45. I can shoot the 9 a little faster, but not much difference. |
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Posted: 3/21/2009 5:44:52 PM EDT
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40 short & weak
10mm 
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Posted: 3/21/2009 5:45:13 PM EDT
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My XD 40 is flawless when decent ammo is put through it. My brother inlaw gave me several hundred rounds of wolf ammo and a few of those did not feed right but what do you expect from wolf. My XD has gone "BANG" every single time I have wanted it to, so far. My XD is the same way, BANG everytime I pull the trigger |
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Posted: 3/21/2009 5:51:15 PM EDT
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ad nauseum
read many articles by police that 40 is a better man stopper than a 9mm read many articles where a 45 could not get it done - so more ammo is always good read many reply's on this forum that 40 is too snappy but 9 is still strong enough - what causes all of that "snappy" anyway - power I'd say i carry the 40 ccw and have all calibers to choose from i shoot my sig 229 40 (sas II gen)just as accurately as my p220 45 but have 15 rounds of lovin to spread around with 229 w/ ext mag my 229 shoots better than my hk usp40c but hk is dead sexy and feels so solid - should say I shoot my 229 better than i shoot my hk uspc - you may shoot hk better 40 cal pressure will help with potential misfire unless bad round - no misfires yet |
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Posted: 3/21/2009 5:51:21 PM EDT
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mcb |
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Posted: 3/21/2009 6:17:03 PM EDT
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The .40 S&W was not created for female agents. It was adopted after the FBI developed its test protocol for ammunition performance after the Miami Shootout. The 10mm had been adopted as a knee jerk reaction, but it was found to be too powerful (ie over penetration, excessive recoil, short firearm life). The 10mm was then downloaded to stay within the "ideal" paremeters of the FBI protocal test. It didn't take too long for gun designers to figure out that they could shorten the case and fit it into standard 9mm size frames. Whether or not you agree with the FBI test protocol, the .40 was engineered to peform to the minimum and maximum penetration tests after going through various intermediate barriers. Ever notice that there is not any +P .40 ammo. That is because it opperates at something like 33000 psi (the 45 ACP is somethin like 21000). I think it is a good round for its intended purpose. It outshines the 9mm particularly in intermediate barrier situations and can fit into much smaller pistols than a .45.
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Posted: 3/21/2009 6:39:15 PM EDT
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meh, i shoot a 9mm 192 gr. round at about 1275 fps and 575 ft/lbs. of energy. so who needs the .40 or .45? not me.  
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Posted: 3/21/2009 6:41:57 PM EDT
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.45ACP is for men
9mm is for little girls In between, .40S&W must be for homerseckshuals or something. 
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Posted: 3/21/2009 6:47:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/21/2009 6:54:42 PM EDT
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Eh, I've got .45 when I want a big hole, and 9mm when I want cheap shooting. No need for a .40
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Posted: 3/21/2009 6:59:21 PM EDT
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Lets face it, the .40 was made for women police officers who could not handle the recoil of the .45 The question is, why buy a .40 when you can have a 10mm? I dont see the point of the .40 personally. Let's actually not face that, as it's wrong. Most departments were using 9mm, and switched to .40 for additional stopping power, without limiting capacity. I don't see the problem with either. I love the .40 and 9mm. People always knock the 9mm because it doesn't have "stopping power" but I bet a good +P load in 9mm will be plenty l 
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Posted: 3/21/2009 7:01:54 PM EDT
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For the OP, .40 is the only pistol caliber I've ever owned in my gun-owning life. Well besides the .357 wheel gun I had that I traded in for my first .40 back in 1994.
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Posted: 3/21/2009 7:11:27 PM EDT
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nothing wrong with a .40
I can go to wal mart and there is no 45 or 9mm but right there in the middle is 40 I don't have a problem finding it. Maybe someday I will get a different caliber (well besides .357 mag) for a center fire handgun but I have never had a single malfunction or jam with my glock 22 and 27. |
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Posted: 3/21/2009 7:18:15 PM EDT
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I had one once. Sold it and bought another .45
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Posted: 3/21/2009 7:18:46 PM EDT
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i have ann FN in .40... me like
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Posted: 3/21/2009 7:35:38 PM EDT
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The .40 S&W was not created for female agents. It was adopted after the FBI developed its test protocol for ammunition performance after the Miami Shootout. The 10mm had been adopted as a knee jerk reaction, but it was found to be too powerful (ie over penetration, excessive recoil, short firearm life). The 10mm was then downloaded to stay within the "ideal" paremeters of the FBI protocal test. It didn't take too long for gun designers to figure out that they could shorten the case and fit it into standard 9mm size frames. Whether or not you agree with the FBI test protocol, the .40 was engineered to peform to the minimum and maximum penetration tests after going through various intermediate barriers. Ever notice that there is not any +P .40 ammo. That is because it opperates at something like 33000 psi (the 45 ACP is somethin like 21000). I think it is a good round for its intended purpose. It outshines the 9mm particularly in intermediate barrier situations and can fit into much smaller pistols than a .45. Now THIS guy has nailed it exactly! |
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Posted: 3/21/2009 7:38:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/21/2009 7:43:04 PM EDT
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Its ok but I prefer 9mm.
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Posted: 3/21/2009 7:45:25 PM EDT
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I enjoy the round but for target shooting I prefer 9mm or .45ACP.
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Posted: 3/21/2009 7:46:29 PM EDT
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I carry .40 and I have for lots of years....I have NEVER had a FTF or FTE,KB or anything of the like...
I have shot living breathing things and they have died from the wounds.. I'm good with it!
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Posted: 3/21/2009 7:54:43 PM EDT
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New owner (2 months) of an HK P2000
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Posted: 3/21/2009 7:55:50 PM EDT
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When I got my HK, I wanted .45, but the .40 just felt so much better in my hand. Plus the cost of shooting being a little less (I cared more about the few pennies then) was a factor. Plus I do like the ability to carry more rounds in the .40. Do I wish I had a .45, yep. But I am never worried about the ability of my .40.
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Posted: 3/21/2009 8:03:39 PM EDT
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No issues with .40 here.
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Posted: 3/21/2009 8:12:36 PM EDT
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HK USP .40 (since 96') and Glock 27 here. The local PD also uses it.
At our club's concealed carry class, a local detective/instructor does his usual speel: "The NRA instructs me to say the perfect gun in the house is a .38 revolver....now that's out of the way.......when your ass is in a sling you want one of these! (pulls out his issued Glock 23). |
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Posted: 3/21/2009 8:27:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/21/2009 9:26:37 PM EDT
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meh...
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Posted: 3/21/2009 9:42:12 PM EDT
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i have a beretta 96 and i love it. 40 is a great round i think but every caliber has its own purpose. i've NEVER had a jam or any kind of problem with it, ammo or the gun....i guess the US military issues beretta handguns for a reason. I can't stand the capacity of a 45 but its a decent round. I like the feel of a 40...it lets me know i'm shooting but at the same time its not like some larger calibers where the rapid fire accuracy goes out of the window because of the recoil and still it has good knock down power.
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Posted: 3/21/2009 10:13:05 PM EDT
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my G22 is too snappy and it hurts my hands after about 50 rounds. i like shooting my 9mm and .45 a lot more. What the holy fuck are you doing with a weapon in you'r possetion ??? Give them to a man you know down the street or a relative who isn't a pussy. My 5yo boy can shoot my S/W .40 Auto and he doesn't complain about recoil or is afraid of noise. |
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Posted: 3/22/2009 4:42:14 AM EDT
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I have an XD40 and love it. I am dying however for a 45 and a 22.
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Posted: 3/22/2009 4:52:46 AM EDT
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snip how hard will it be to find ammo for it in 20? snip if shtf than i could buy 9mm anywhere, and 45s are pretty popular in other areas beside US Don't look now, but the S is definitely HTF as far as gun and ammo sales are concerned yet the only FMJ pistol ammo available at the Wal-Mart I went to yesterday was .40 S&W (an observation which has been independently confirmed by a previous poster in this thread). I think you're overestimating the advantages of your EuroPellet.
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Posted: 3/22/2009 4:55:16 AM EDT
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I don't agree, but it does have nice diction. This. Grammar Nazi is happy. Proper use of "neither" and "nor" FTW! |
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Posted: 3/22/2009 4:58:48 AM EDT
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i have ann FN in .40... me like Thats what I got too. I cant wait to shoot it! |
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Posted: 3/22/2009 5:00:34 AM EDT
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<–– carries a .40cal daily.
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Posted: 3/22/2009 5:00:35 AM EDT
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I have a SIG 229 and it has been dead nuts reliable and accurate. I have no problems with the .40, though I prefer the .45. Honestly, I think people should get one of all three (9mm, .40, .45) that way you can always be assured that somewhere, someone will have the ammo that you need.
Seems right now that the popularity of the .40 is waning (at least on the civi side, still a popular gun for LE) which has means I have not had a problem getting ammo for it. |
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