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11/24/2017 11:53:05 PM EDT
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Quoted:  Were those the only two with splits? The rest were just missing buttplates and pins, correct?
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Those were the only two cracked ones they gave me.
11/24/2017 11:57:51 PM EDT
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Quoted:  Regarding cracked magwells

1) Melt it with a soldering iron or other hot peice of metal and clamp it together.
2) Use a 1/4" nut and bolt to hold the front end together.
3) fill it full of epoxy and clamp together.  Some people have also counter sunk screws then expoxied over them.
4) Some people have used plastic welders from harbor freight
5) Return it to GWACS and pay $35.00 for a new one.
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Will that procedure work on cracked buffer tubes as well?  Should I drill a hole @ the end of the crack just in case?

Thanks much to you and @Tim_McBride for the help.  There will be quite a few of us repairing these in the near future.
11/25/2017 10:11:02 AM EDT
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Sweet.  Thanks for figuring that out.

Ok, ladies and gentlemen, just got a text from Richard.  There are 17 non blem lowers with takedown pins and buttstocks left, for $20 ea, limit 2.  There are 218 blems left for $5 each, no limit.  Shipping of orders $80 and up, in CONUS, free.

Orders start via phone and email Monday, at 10:00 AM Central.
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Thank you!
11/25/2017 11:38:40 AM EDT
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Does anyone know, or is it documented somewhere, what length you're supposed to trim the safety detent spring to? I know that the standard spring length is far too long for the lower, due to the fact that it doesn't go into the pistol grip. I just don't know what the optimal length is.
11/25/2017 11:44:59 AM EDT
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It's in the video on page 2?  You trim it so the detent is poking out of the hole, but not too high.  Lemme see which page it's on.

SinistralRifeman's post, of course, on page 2:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/general/-5-lowers-MONDAY-200-uppers-300-AR-thread-in-time-for-Christmas-/5-2047298/?page=2#i68908603
11/25/2017 11:47:32 AM EDT
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Does anyone know, or is it documented somewhere, what length you're supposed to trim the safety detent spring to? I know that the standard spring length is far too long for the lower, due to the fact that it doesn't go into the pistol grip. I just don't know what the optimal length is.
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http://www.gwacsarmory.com/tech-support/

"Safety selector detent pin/spring load from the top. The spring may need to be trimmed for proper fit. The top of the detent should sit at 0.20" (+/- 0.020) from the base of the selector hole."

ETA: I can't get the hot link to work.
11/25/2017 1:31:38 PM EDT
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Quoted:  http://www.gwacsarmory.com/tech-support/

"Safety selector detent pin/spring load from the top. The spring may need to be trimmed for proper fit. The top of the detent should sit at 0.20" (+/- 0.020) from the base of the selector hole."

ETA: I can't get the hot link to work.
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http://www.gwacsarmory.com/tech-support/
11/25/2017 1:33:22 PM EDT
[#8]
Local shop has several Delton and DPMS complete even with Magpul furniture on some for $385.
11/25/2017 2:19:00 PM EDT
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Quoted:  http://www.gwacsarmory.com/tech-support/

"Safety selector detent pin/spring load from the top. The spring may need to be trimmed for proper fit. The top of the detent should sit at 0.20" (+/- 0.020) from the base of the selector hole."

ETA: I can't get the hot link to work.
http://www.gwacsarmory.com/tech-support/
I tried to edit three times and it wouldn't take. I've never had a problem before. Let me try again.

http://www.gwacsarmory.com/tech-support/

ETA  WTF
11/25/2017 3:29:26 PM EDT
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Works fine for me.  It's a pain doing links and pics on the phone.
11/25/2017 5:23:44 PM EDT
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Update.  I understand from Richard that he contacted those of you on the waitlist.  That leaves 13 lowers w/ pins & buttplates, and 156 blems left.  Will go update the OP.
11/25/2017 5:25:03 PM EDT
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Update.  I understand from Richard that he contacted those of you on the waitlist.  That leaves 13 lowers w/ pins & buttplates, and 156 blems left.  Will go update the OP.
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I missed the call last night, but I called today and ordered my 2 lowers.
11/25/2017 5:27:51 PM EDT
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Quoted:  I missed the call last night, but I called today and ordered my 2 lowers.
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Sweet.  What is he charging you for shipping?
11/25/2017 5:37:38 PM EDT
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Quoted:  http://www.gwacsarmory.com/tech-support/

"Safety selector detent pin/spring load from the top. The spring may need to be trimmed for proper fit. The top of the detent should sit at 0.20" (+/- 0.020) from the base of the selector hole."

ETA: I can't get the hot link to work.
http://www.gwacsarmory.com/tech-support/
I just trimmed two or three coils off and it seems to work fine.  I set the selector half way between safe and fire and tap the selector with a punch and hammer and the safety pops in and out without any damage to the lower. Additionally, trimming the spring seems to make the selector movement smoother.
11/25/2017 11:04:08 PM EDT
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So the best transfer fee I've found is $25 per 4...
11/25/2017 11:20:46 PM EDT
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Quoted:  So the best transfer fee I've found is $25 per 4...
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That's not too bad.  $180 for 16x lowers.  That's $11.25/lower.

Or, get 2x w/ pins for $20/ea, another 10x blems for $5/ea, that gets you free shipping & only $75 in transfer fees, that's $165 total, $13.75/ea, and you've got 2x lowers ready to throw a parts kit in and go shoot.
11/25/2017 11:23:24 PM EDT
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This is from my wedding gift batch - 3 consecutive SNs for the kids, oldest to youngest.  Takedown pins pounded in, mag catches and sights installed.  Gonna need new rings for the Barska, it was a gift from an ARFCOMer last year for the boy.

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11/25/2017 11:24:46 PM EDT
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That's not too bad.  $180 for 16x lowers.
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So the best transfer fee I've found is $25 per 4...
That's not too bad.  $180 for 16x lowers.
This is what made me glad I was in the DFW area for Thanksgiving. When you're buying in bulk, transfers get expensive.

Still don't understand why transferring FFL's do that, as even my transfer of 10 of these at Trinity only required me filling out (1) 4473, they attached a 2nd to continue the serial # list.
11/25/2017 11:39:51 PM EDT
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I was on the waitlist, and didn't think I got a call. But I just checked my phone, and sure enough I was called last night, but I missed it.

Didn't notice the call until after they closed today.

I will have to take my chances with getting the lowers on Monday. I hope I can get through.
11/25/2017 11:42:49 PM EDT
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Send 'em an email now and reference the phone call, best you can do til Monday.  It's not the original deal, just the new one, 2x lowers w/ pins & buttplates for $20 ea, $5 blems, free shipping $80 & up in CONUS.
11/25/2017 11:44:55 PM EDT
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Send 'em an email now and reference the phone call, best you can do til Monday.  It's not the original deal, just the new one, 2x lowers w/ pins & buttplates for $20 ea, $5 blems, free shipping $80 & up in CONUS.
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That's what I'm going to do. I'm equally intrigued by this new deal as I was with the original one.
11/26/2017 1:00:38 AM EDT
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Does anyone know, or is it documented somewhere, what length you're supposed to trim the safety detent spring to? I know that the standard spring length is far too long for the lower, due to the fact that it doesn't go into the pistol grip. I just don't know what the optimal length is.
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Great video on how to install LPK in these lowers.

https://youtu.be/GnpFfieMZrY
11/26/2017 1:17:32 AM EDT
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Quoted:  Great video on how to install LPK in these lowers.

https://youtu.be/GnpFfieMZrY
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Also on page 2, posted by SinistralRifleman himself, who made the video:

11/26/2017 1:20:42 AM EDT
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A thought just occurred to me.....

How easy/hard would it be to SBR one of these? How would the engraving work? Would affixing a metal plate suffice?
11/26/2017 1:33:56 AM EDT
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Quoted:  A thought just occurred to me.....

How easy/hard would it be to SBR one of these? How would the engraving work? Would affixing a metal plate suffice?
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I know someone who paid for a stamp on one; I don't know if he's had it engraved.  We'll see if he'll chime in.

My 2nd one I bought w/ a split magwell for $20 when they were selling them for $65; Richard had played w/ the laser engraver @ his old job to see what could be done.  Give me a minute, I'll post a pic.

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11/26/2017 2:33:36 AM EDT
[#26]
I would really like to pick up a couple of the blemished/cracked lowers for pistol builds
11/26/2017 2:38:36 AM EDT
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I don't know that it will make the best pistol lower, as you can't put a pistol brace on it, and the pistol grip rake is a bit steep, but if you've got a Dremel, and $10 + shipping & transfer, you're in business.  I'd be sending them an email and calling @ 10:00 AM.
11/26/2017 2:59:00 AM EDT
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I don't know that it will make the best pistol lower, as you can't put a pistol brace on it, and the pistol grip rake is a bit steep, but if you've got a Dremel, and $10 + shipping & transfer, you're in business.  I'd be sending them an email and calling @ 10:00 AM.
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I don't use a brace on my "keep the peace at church" (kidding, but I do have one for church) Ar pistol but didn't realize that the grip is steeper.

Do I just email and say how many I want?

Thanks.
11/26/2017 3:10:56 AM EDT
[#29]
The sale isn't til Monday, starting @ 10:00 AM.  You'll have to wait til then to email or call.  I would hit send on the email and call on the phone @ 10:00 AM.

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The grip is a little steeper than an A1/A2 grip, I think.
11/26/2017 3:14:25 AM EDT
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The sale isn't til Monday, starting @ 10:00 AM.  You'll have to wait til then to email or call.  I would hit send on the email and call on the phone @ 10:00 AM.
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Thank you, that is what I thought but wanted to make certain.

Well, I've got to get to bed or I will be so tired tomorrow that I will be preaching heresy!
11/26/2017 1:46:51 PM EDT
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A thought just occurred to me.....

How easy/hard would it be to SBR one of these? How would the engraving work? Would affixing a metal plate suffice?
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You can engrave directly to the polymer for your information. Only the serial number is required to be engraved on a fixed metal plate.
11/26/2017 5:01:16 PM EDT
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I know someone who paid for a stamp on one; I don't know if he's had it engraved.  We'll see if he'll chime in.

My 2nd one I bought w/ a split magwell for $20 when they were selling them for $65; Richard had played w/ the laser engraver @ his old job to see what could be done.  Give me a minute, I'll post a pic.

http://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/84655/20171125_233525-373318.JPG
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How easy/hard would it be to SBR one of these? How would the engraving work? Would affixing a metal plate suffice?
I know someone who paid for a stamp on one; I don't know if he's had it engraved.  We'll see if he'll chime in.

My 2nd one I bought w/ a split magwell for $20 when they were selling them for $65; Richard had played w/ the laser engraver @ his old job to see what could be done.  Give me a minute, I'll post a pic.

http://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/84655/20171125_233525-373318.JPG
I had one of these laser engraved and the polymer doesn't take well to being heated. Larger areas took on a raised texture and letters were almost impossible read.

If I were going to sbr one of these I'd find someone with a rotary engraver. The letters will be clearer and to the proper depth.
11/26/2017 5:26:57 PM EDT
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Cnc mills work too, apparently.
11/26/2017 7:02:34 PM EDT
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Only if they use an engraving bit.
11/27/2017 12:12:29 AM EDT
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Less than 12 hours remaining til start of $5 lower sale bump.
11/27/2017 12:23:13 AM EDT
[#36]
Quit bumping -I'm hoping to get an order in first thing in the morning!

11/27/2017 2:31:47 AM EDT
[#37]
If I were to SBR it, I would heat up letter punches and melt the trust name in.
11/27/2017 7:00:48 AM EDT
[#38]
Perusing the OP, lots of lines crossed out.  Do we know how many are even left?
11/27/2017 7:08:51 AM EDT
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I think he said 27 new and 230 something blems when I ordered mine on Friday night.
11/27/2017 7:14:33 AM EDT
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Only 27 new? those will be gone in seconds
11/27/2017 8:35:44 AM EDT
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Quoted:  Perusing the OP, lots of lines crossed out.  Do we know how many are even left?
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It's the 2nd line in the OP.

The last information I got from Richard:

13x $20 lowers left, 156x $5 blems remaining.
There are various ways to get blems in operation, including chopping the stock for a pistol build, ordering a buttplate from Cav Mfg or GWACS, using an A1 or A2 buttplate, buying the correct pins for $10 or using clevis pins (much cheaper), and multiple ways to fix any cracks, as SinistralRifleman noted.  I've already given away 2 blems, and have 8x of my other lowers earmarked for gifts.
11/27/2017 9:02:32 AM EDT
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It's the 2nd line in the OP.

The last information I got from Richard:

There are various ways to get blems in operation, including chopping the stock for a pistol build, ordering a buttplate from Cav Mfg or GWACS, using an A1 or A2 buttplate, buying the correct pins for $10 or using clevis pins (much cheaper), and multiple ways to fix any cracks, as SinistralRifleman noted.  I've already given away 2 blems, and have 8x of my other lowers earmarked for gifts.
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It's the 2nd line in the OP.

The last information I got from Richard:

13x $20 lowers left, 156x $5 blems remaining.
There are various ways to get blems in operation, including chopping the stock for a pistol build, ordering a buttplate from Cav Mfg or GWACS, using an A1 or A2 buttplate, buying the correct pins for $10 or using clevis pins (much cheaper), and multiple ways to fix any cracks, as SinistralRifleman noted.  I've already given away 2 blems, and have 8x of my other lowers earmarked for gifts.
Thanks.  I'm not particularly worried about them being blems.  I've already got several Cav Arms lowers, so I've got an idea of how they work.  I was just wondering if there'd be any at all.
11/27/2017 10:37:49 AM EDT
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Whats the email address?
11/27/2017 10:40:55 AM EDT
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Ok, looking to pick up pins for my 16 blems.

Anyone got the length for the proper clevis pins from HD/Lowe's/Ace?

Plan is to use cotter-less ball detent clevis pins, 1/4" from posts earlier in this thread. Need to know the right length though.
11/27/2017 11:34:38 AM EDT
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[email protected]

My understanding is they won't accept orders on these until 10:00 AM today.
11/27/2017 12:03:31 PM EDT
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Busy...

ETA: After 25 tries, got through to an answering machine.
11/27/2017 12:07:15 PM EDT
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Must be real busy!  I've had them pick up say "thank you for calling" and then hang up. Got the answering machine twice
11/27/2017 12:11:12 PM EDT
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I left a message on the answering machine and sent an Email.  
11/27/2017 12:11:51 PM EDT
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I just got an answering machine the 2nd time.
11/27/2017 12:12:42 PM EDT
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I just got an answering machine the 2nd time.
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I left a message on the answering machine and sent an Email.  
I just got an answering machine the 2nd time.
Took me about 20 attempts to get to the answering machine.

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