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Posted: 2/9/2022 1:58:18 PM EDT
[#1]
Good luck finding .300 PRC or 6.5 PRC ammo in any decent quantity.
If I wanted to regularly shoot 1 mile, I'd build a .300 Norma. Still though, good luck finding factory ammo. |
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Posted: 2/9/2022 2:01:06 PM EDT
[#2]
.300 PRC
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Posted: 2/9/2022 2:06:08 PM EDT
[#3]
300PRC for sure.
The 300WM advocates say that you can hand load it in a custom chamber to be a lot like a 300PRC, which is true, but if you’re hand loading already it’s not like you’re going to be collecting up once fired after the deer hunters sight in so why not get the PRC? |
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Posted: 2/9/2022 2:06:21 PM EDT
[#4]
300 PRC
And a reloading set up. |
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Posted: 2/9/2022 2:07:27 PM EDT
[#5]
I have a 1 mile range so I shoot a lot of answers to this question.
1. The .300 PRC Ruger Precision rifle is fucking amazing. I have an unlimited budget for this kind of shit, and the RPR is far beyond its price tag in .300 PRC. It's heavy as fuck and that helps a lot with the recoil of the PRC. I was rocking a 1 mile challenge where you fired 1 round at a 1 mile IPSC 20 days in a row at 0730. With the RPR .300PRC I hit that target 19 times out of 20 and won the challenge. 2. The .300WM and the .300PRC are neck and neck - but the .300 PRC has better bullets and is easier to get right now. If you have a gun built for .300WM AND reload AND use Peterson headspaced brass it works just like PRC. 3. The 6.5 PRC does really good at 1 mile, but ammo right now is flat out a crisis in 6.5PRC. It isn't as easy to spot misses, BUT it doesn't recoil like a .300 PRC so you can build it much more lightweight. The 8LB precision .300 PRC I built kicked the SHIT out of you with a suppressor. My stick for the 1 mile game these days - TRG-42 with Bartlein MOD400BB carbon fiber barrel.  Quoted: I want to get into 1 mile or farther shooting. I have a 24" 6.5CM which can get out to 1100-1200 reliably, but really putters out beyond that. Does anyone have any recommendations on the best cartridge for 1 mile+ shooting that is both readily available in a factory load and reasonably able to hit out at distance? I was looking at .300 win mag, .300 PRC, and 6.5 PRC but open to any suggestions. I don't reload so that's not an option for me. Has to be factory ammo. Thanks! |
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Posted: 2/9/2022 2:07:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good luck finding .300 PRC or 6.5 PRC ammo in any decent quantity. If I wanted to regularly shoot 1 mile, I'd build a .300 Norma. Still though, good luck finding factory ammo. Ive been looking as well and if you are not exclusively reloading 300Norma has more loaded ammo for sale, specifically from Norma direct. |
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Posted: 2/9/2022 2:11:20 PM EDT
[#7]
7 SAUM chambered to seat the heavies further out.
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Posted: 2/9/2022 2:12:48 PM EDT
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300 PRC see to have the guns being made if you arent going super custom anyway.
I'd also ask if you care about energy on target. If yes its 300 PRC or bigger (which you did not mention) If you are on a budget and dont care about energy on target maybe stick to 6.5 PRC |
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Posted: 2/9/2022 2:18:12 PM EDT
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300 prc is the technically better round. (Really they are very similar.)
But kind of hard to shoot at a mile if you can’t find brass or ammo. |
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Posted: 2/9/2022 2:19:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 300 PRC see to have the guns being made if you arent going super custom anyway. I'd also ask if you care about energy on target. If yes its 300 PRC or bigger (which you did not mention) If you are on a budget and dont care about energy on target maybe stick to 6.5 PRC |
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Posted: 2/9/2022 2:21:58 PM EDT
[#11]
I have a 6.5 CM and a 6.5 PRC.
I enjoy both but if I were serious about reaching out to the range you are talking about, I'd go 300 PRC. |
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Posted: 2/9/2022 2:23:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/9/2022 2:24:34 PM EDT
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OP wants to stick to fac ammo. The 147 Hornady 6.5PRC had pretty good performance IMHO. I never felt the need to leave the short action to make it go.
I do know people who like the 153's as a reload, but reloading for me is the process of staring fixedly at a process I have no interest in for hours and hours to get to go have fun. I can just work my job some more and pay the cash out of pocket frankly. Quote HistoryQuoted: 6.5 PRC is kind of worthless in a short action, so you'll be looking at a custom action anyway (or at least a barrel on your existing long action.) |
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Posted: 2/9/2022 2:25:09 PM EDT
[#14]
300 PRC or 300 Norma for factory only ammo.
300 Win Mag throated for 215+ bullets can keep up with the 300 PRC as well. |
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Posted: 2/9/2022 2:29:06 PM EDT
[#15]
Thanks for reminding me to order some ammo OP, I’ve got a 300PRC on the way soon (hopefully)
Damn, it is awfully spendy isn’t it? |
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Posted: 2/9/2022 2:31:51 PM EDT
[#16]
Thanks everyone! I'm looking hard into .300 PRC and norma right now.
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Posted: 2/9/2022 2:34:20 PM EDT
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I just got off the phone with one of my buddies that I got into reloading. He just bought a Bergara 6.5PRC and I was asking him where he was gonna shoot that thing since it's like a miler sort of rifle. It's difficult to find a 300 yard range around here, let alone +1000 yards... lol
-ZA |
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Posted: 2/9/2022 2:35:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks for reminding me to order some ammo OP, I’ve got a 300PRC on the way soon (hopefully) Damn, it is awfully spendy isn’t it? Not sure how much it was before the ammo shortage, but .300 PRC for about $5-6 a round seems about the norm. Really spendy compared to the $2-3 bucks a round for 6.5 cm and the $1-$2 for .308 FGMM 
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Posted: 2/9/2022 2:41:11 PM EDT
[#19]
300 PRC or Norma. Good luck finding ammo for either though.
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Posted: 2/9/2022 2:45:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 300 PRC or Norma. Good luck finding ammo for either though. Midway actually has 3 flavors of Norma ammo in stock and only one for PRC. PRC is about $40 cheaper per box though. 
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Posted: 2/9/2022 2:59:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Midway actually has 3 flavors of Norma ammo in stock and only one for PRC. PRC is about $40 cheaper per box though. That’s what I get for saying anything. I haven’t looked forever and last time I did a tear rolled down my cheek. |
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Posted: 2/9/2022 3:00:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not sure how much it was before the ammo shortage, but .300 PRC for about $5-6 a round seems about the norm. Really spendy compared to the $2-3 bucks a round for 6.5 cm and the $1-$2 for .308 FGMM 300PRC was $45 a box, then $65, then $85. It's settled and you can find it for $65-70. I shoot the Hornady 212 ELD-X and 225 ELD-M for factory and reload the 225s and 220 Bergers. No freeloading, 300PRC:  300PRC at 1,000y:  TriggerCam @ 1,000 |
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Posted: 2/9/2022 3:03:46 PM EDT
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Stop everything you are thinking about, and start gathering reloading stuff.
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Posted: 2/9/2022 3:03:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 300PRC was $45 a box, then $65, then $85. It's settled and you can find it for $65-70. I shoot the Hornady 212 ELD-X and 225 ELD-M for factory and reload the 225s and 220 Bergers. No freeloading, 300PRC: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG_0619-2142170.jpg 300PRC at 1,000y:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMi2wwuHjCQdang! Look at that steel swing @1000y. |
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Posted: 2/9/2022 3:07:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Stop everything you are thinking about, and start gathering reloading stuff. Several reasons I can't/won't get into reloading right now. It's incredibly overpriced at the moment and I don't shoot enough to make it worth the cost of entry. Maybe when the kids are older and out of the house (a decade and a half from now - youngest is 4) reloading will come back down to reasonable prices....if we haven't all Yeet'd or Boog'd by then I definitely agree though....reloading is where it's at and I should have started sooner. |
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Posted: 2/9/2022 3:09:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: dang! Look at that steel swing @1000y. It has a lot of terminal energy. I blew my magnetoospeed hit indicator off my steel (@1,000y) using the PRC. I didn't hit the indicator, but the force blew it off and to pieces.  
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Posted: 2/9/2022 3:11:17 PM EDT
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Well worth the time to watch a few video's before you choose..
 Hornady 250grn A Tip ELR testing in 300PRC and 300WinMag (2845 yards)  300PRC v 300Win Mag with Hornady 250grn A-Tip (2845 yards)  300PRC testing v Win Mag, Rum, Norma for ELR Personally, I would take the norma over the prc, it out performs it by a bunch...but would take my 300rum over all of them...If you are going to shoot a magnum caliber, you might as well have real magnum power..the only difference is the cost of the brass and the amount of powder you are going thru.... 
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Posted: 2/9/2022 3:11:31 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Several reasons I can't/won't get into reloading right now. It's incredibly overpriced at the moment and I don't shoot enough to make it worth the cost of entry. Maybe when the kids are older and out of the house (a decade and a half from now - youngest is 4) reloading will come back down to reasonable prices....if we haven't all Yeet'd or Boog'd by then Components can be found reasonably if you're sharp. Even if they are overpriced, its still far cheaper than buying factory ammo. Its not like single stage presses are expensive either, so the cost of entry thing is silly. You will be far ahead of buying 4 to 6 dollar a round factory ammo i can assure you. The savings on 300 handloaded rounds would pretty much cover your equipment. |
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Posted: 2/9/2022 3:17:03 PM EDT
[#29]
338LM or 338NM will get you there.
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Posted: 2/9/2022 3:17:46 PM EDT
[#30]
How is 28 Nosler different? I have a buddy who loves to shoot long range, and he has gone from 6.5 CM, to 6/6.5 PRC to now 28 Nosler
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Posted: 2/9/2022 3:38:10 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How is 28 Nosler different? I have a buddy who loves to shoot long range, and he has gone from 6.5 CM, to 6/6.5 PRC to now 28 Nosler Doesn’t it have a substantial barrel life issue or am I thinking of something else? |
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Posted: 2/9/2022 3:42:06 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Doesn't it have a substantial barrel life issue or am I thinking of something else? |
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Posted: 2/9/2022 3:52:02 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, it does. It's up there with the 7 STW. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Doesn't it have a substantial barrel life issue or am I thinking of something else? I thought so. I heard some people talking about it and I think they said it was worse than 6.5-284 which got my attention. |
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Posted: 2/9/2022 3:55:06 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought so. I heard some people talking about it and I think they said it was worse than 6.5-284 which got my attention. |
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Posted: 2/9/2022 3:58:16 PM EDT
[#35]
I reload so my choice is different than most. 280AI
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Posted: 2/9/2022 3:59:42 PM EDT
[#36]
How's brass life on 300prc compared to 300wm?
I have a 300wm I'm thinking of rebarelling to 300prc. 300wm feeds like shit in my cip AM mags because of the belt. Once I can find brass and dies, I'll send it to a gunsmith. |
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Posted: 2/9/2022 4:08:45 PM EDT
[#37]
I'm looking to get into long range bolt action and was pretty much settling on 300wm....till 300 prc came out. I reload so thats a plus for either one. Everything I've seen says the 300 prc is the "better" round. The 1 thing I don't know is if 300 is a barrel killer or not. I personally would prefer 300wm but slowly thinking 300 is the answer.
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Posted: 2/9/2022 4:09:48 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How's brass life on 300prc compared to 300wm? Can't be any worse than the 224 Valkyrie I shoot
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Posted: 2/9/2022 4:11:05 PM EDT
[#39]
PRC isn’t that much bigger than WM that it would be much more of a barrel killer. Make no mistake though they will be tough on barrels.
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Posted: 2/9/2022 4:15:48 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Can't be any worse than the 224 Valkyrie I shoot I heard about that
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Posted: 2/9/2022 4:21:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm looking to get into long range bolt action and was pretty much settling on 300wm....till 300 prc came out. I reload so thats a plus for either one. Everything I've seen says the 300 prc is the "better" round. The 1 thing I don't know is if 300 is a barrel killer or not. I personally would prefer 300wm but slowly thinking 300 is the answer. It should be worse on barrels than the win mag, anytime you go fatter case, shorter case, smaller neck diameter its going to hurt barrel life ..it is why 300 rum can get 1500 round sub moa if a person is careful versus the 7mm rum is lucky to get 500 rounds no matter how hard you try to save barrel life.. And what most are finding is the prc is better with the lighter bullets(220-230 and down), the wm is better with the class heavies(230's-245 berger-250 hornaday)..My buddy after buying his prc and going thru load after load expecting it to destroy his old win mag put the prc in the back of the safe, where it still sits..He never shot it enough to see a barrel go away and most likely won't since he went and got a 338lm locally that he got a deal on, he likes it much better.... |
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Posted: 2/9/2022 4:37:00 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And what most are finding is the prc is better with the lighter bullets(220-230 and down), the wm is better with the class heavies(230's-245 berger-250 hornaday) Better at what? |
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Posted: 2/9/2022 4:46:45 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Better at what? Shooting the heavies..at ELR..theres a video above that has a pretty fair comparison of both cartridges..With that said, there is a guy on here that is loading the 230 berger in 308 wm and is very happy with his load for what he is doing...Regardless, I doubt 99% of shooters could notice any real on target performance difference with either cartridge at ELR.. |
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Posted: 2/9/2022 4:49:45 PM EDT
[#44]
Why is it theoretically better than PRC with heavies? Chamber design?
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Posted: 2/9/2022 4:51:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 338LM or 338NM will get you there. I agree if you need to kill something at 1 mile, but a 30cal magnum is plenty for steel. |
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Posted: 2/9/2022 5:00:34 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is it theoretically better than PRC with heavies? Chamber design? Thought is the longer smaller diameter case works a bit better on the heavy for caliber bullets..My buddy saw the same thing between his 300prc and his 300win mag..but he is not a reloader, but his results were similar to what they found in the videos I posted earlier.. |
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Posted: 2/9/2022 5:00:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: dang! Look at that steel swing @1000y. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 300PRC was $45 a box, then $65, then $85. It's settled and you can find it for $65-70. I shoot the Hornady 212 ELD-X and 225 ELD-M for factory and reload the 225s and 220 Bergers. No freeloading, 300PRC: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG_0619-2142170.jpg 300PRC at 1,000y: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMi2wwuHjCQdang! Look at that steel swing @1000y.  and that is why I'm looking for a 300 PRC, 
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Posted: 2/9/2022 5:03:31 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thought is the longer smaller diameter case works a bit better on the heavy for caliber bullets..My buddy saw the same thing between his 300prc and his 300win mag..but he is not a reloader, but his results were similar to what they found in the videos I posted earlier.. 300 Norma enters the chat. |
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Posted: 2/9/2022 5:05:03 PM EDT
[#49]
Youz guyz are awesome. Lots of good info in this thread to ponder.
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Posted: 2/9/2022 5:10:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 300 Norma enters the chat. Yep, and thats what I posted earlier, if I went away from my 300rum, it would be the norma..it appears to be a very well balanced cartridge..With that said, I doubt I would ever change from the 300rum.. In 4 bone stock 700's(all have been threaded for a brake) we get between 3050 and 3150 fps with the 230 berger and feed from the stock magazine... My 28" barreled 700 did the 230's at 3220 fps...but its been well know for years the rum case needs at least 28" of barrel to reach its potential..I just rebarreled it last fall, and went to a 30" barrel, but I haven't ran enough ammo to see how it compares yet.. |
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