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Posted: 1/27/2021 1:45:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If this gets rid of ethanol as a fuel additive then I will hate him ever so slightly less. Evil shit should not be mandated nor subsidized to be in our gasoline. Shit is death for older vehicles and small engines. E85 should still be available for people who want it (because big power guys love it) but all other gas should be E0. $10 per gallon really isnt out of the realm of possibility depending on how dumb the left and retard in chief is. Could you imagine the impact that would have? Electricity production, shipping, air travel, etc. The economy would have rapid hyperinflation. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 1:47:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Solar plants use natural gas, too. LOL. The one on the CA/NV border on I-15 not only uses natural gas, but only creates 40% of the projected output and puts out more harmful emissions than a traditional power plant. It’s been called a model for the future of clean energy and the CA legislature wants to build more of them.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just wait till the nat gas starts drying up due to no more fraking, The power plants built recently suck huge amounts to generate electricity. Folks wont be able to heat or power their homes. Then Industry will leave the country because it cannot compete with other nations due to the high price of energy. And I work in the Nuclear industry. All the gov regulations make that power expensive as hell also. Solar plants use natural gas, too. LOL. The one on the CA/NV border on I-15 not only uses natural gas, but only creates 40% of the projected output and puts out more harmful emissions than a traditional power plant. It’s been called a model for the future of clean energy and the CA legislature wants to build more of them. Did it cause a dramatic spike in energy prices? Check Does it produce less power then a comparable NG plant? Check Did in enrich some Chinese company and their US based lobbyists? Check Did that Chinese company get their money's worth out of their pet politician? Check Is it going to result in inconsistent availability of power if it becomes the new standard? Check Sounds exactly like what a "model of the future" should look like per the current assholes in power. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 1:48:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You would then pay even more for gas... $10 per gallon really isnt out of the realm of possibility depending on how dumb the left and retard in chief is. Could you imagine the impact that would have? Electricity production, shipping, air travel, etc. The economy would have rapid hyperinflation. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If this gets rid of ethanol as a fuel additive then I will hate him ever so slightly less. Evil shit should not be mandated nor subsidized to be in our gasoline. Shit is death for older vehicles and small engines. E85 should still be available for people who want it (because big power guys love it) but all other gas should be E0. $10 per gallon really isnt out of the realm of possibility depending on how dumb the left and retard in chief is. Could you imagine the impact that would have? Electricity production, shipping, air travel, etc. The economy would have rapid hyperinflation. Sounds like what would spur a great reset and implementation of agenda 21. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 1:49:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's meant to kill the entire free-market capitalism thingy. The price for everything is going to go up. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This is meant to kill Rural America. It's meant to kill the entire free-market capitalism thingy. The price for everything is going to go up. I thought free market capitalists liked the idea of eliminating government subsidies? Maybe I'm not understanding what subsidies he is talking about. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 1:49:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: this is a continuation of 2008. Same people who drug the economy down and climate changed us into stupidity are back in charge. All of them. Trump was a bump in the road. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I remember this particular flavor of self-indulgent hysteria from 2008. Let me try: REEEEEEE!!!!!!! this is a continuation of 2008. Same people who drug the economy down and climate changed us into stupidity are back in charge. All of them. Trump was a bump in the road. Anyone who thinks so was too young at that time or is delusional. This is magnitudes worse. Even 0Fucko knew not to do certain things. The difference is this time the left's mask is fully off. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 1:55:48 PM EDT
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You'll be able to buy an F-350 with low miles and leather seats for under $10k.
Back when has first hit $4.00, I wanna say around 2008, I bought a 2001 Land Rover Discovery 2, with 85k miles on it it for $4,400 dollars..... I bought it off the dealer's lot for that price. That same truck running today with twice the miles and falling apart would bring more money than I paid, and the one I bought looked and ran new. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 1:56:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is meant to kill Rural America. Hunger Games was prophetic. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 1:57:03 PM EDT
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So he’s eliminating subsidies. Isn’t that a good thing? I mean they should be able to survive without a government bailout, right?
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Posted: 1/27/2021 1:58:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Y'all gotta stop with the sky is falling. Max sustainable price would be between $4-5 a gallon right now. If oil ever reached approximately ~$200 / bbl, and $10+ gallon for gasoline, it would literally be the end of the country. Fire trucks couldn't run. EMS services couldn't run. Police couldn't run. Cities / County / States would go bankrupt trying to simply buy fuel. Let alone the federal government. Let alone private businesses closing their doors because they couldn't. If the above happens, it's revolution time. But it's HIGHLY doubtful it will ever get to that. Also, they are always talking about mileage taxes. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 1:58:56 PM EDT
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Fuck my life. I drive a dodge 2500 on 37s
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Posted: 1/27/2021 1:58:57 PM EDT
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But ... But, the minimum wage will be $15
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:00:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So he’s eliminating subsidies. Isn’t that a good thing? I mean they should be able to survive without a government bailout, right? He's also cutting the supply, which is the real problem I think |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:03:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is meant to kill Rural America. Yup...I drive 32 miles one way to get to work, no public transportation and the towns are small and spread out. This is just another dig at freedom, independence and being able to come and go as you please ! |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:05:22 PM EDT
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I hope gas goes to $20 a gallon, Fuck it let the Karens get a deepthroat taste of what they voted for!
Environmental Justice? What a bunch of fucking nonsense! |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:05:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did it cause a dramatic spike in energy prices? Check Does it produce less power then a comparable NG plant? Check Did in enrich some Chinese company and their US based lobbyists? Check Did that Chinese company get their money's worth out of their pet politician? Check Is it going to result in inconsistent availability of power if it becomes the new standard? Check Sounds exactly like what a "model of the future" should look like per the current assholes in power. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Just wait till the nat gas starts drying up due to no more fraking, The power plants built recently suck huge amounts to generate electricity. Folks wont be able to heat or power their homes. Then Industry will leave the country because it cannot compete with other nations due to the high price of energy. And I work in the Nuclear industry. All the gov regulations make that power expensive as hell also. Solar plants use natural gas, too. LOL. The one on the CA/NV border on I-15 not only uses natural gas, but only creates 40% of the projected output and puts out more harmful emissions than a traditional power plant. It’s been called a model for the future of clean energy and the CA legislature wants to build more of them. Did it cause a dramatic spike in energy prices? Check Does it produce less power then a comparable NG plant? Check Did in enrich some Chinese company and their US based lobbyists? Check Did that Chinese company get their money's worth out of their pet politician? Check Is it going to result in inconsistent availability of power if it becomes the new standard? Check Sounds exactly like what a "model of the future" should look like per the current assholes in power. You forgot about disposal problems when those hazmat panels reach end of life. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:12:02 PM EDT
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The vehicle market could get wrecked with a modest gas price increase. Assume gas climbed to $3-5/gal, which is completely plausible. While vehicle MPGs have increased over the years, most auto makers are (or have) dropping sedans and small cars in favor of SUVs, Crossovers, and Trucks. Most people are already leveraged with debt and a $100-200+ budget change could not be managed. We do have more people working remote and from home than before, but even with that there would be a major shit and a lot of financial pain.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:12:58 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So he’s eliminating subsidies. Isn’t that a good thing? I mean they should be able to survive without a government bailout, right? Subsidies are bad, but so is extreme regulation. They push the latter to sell the need for the former to make the industry reliant on them, thus giving govt more control over private industry. Removing the subsidies without removing the burdensome regulation is just blatantly trying to kill the industry. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:13:02 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is meant to punish for supporting Trump and ultimately kill Rural America. FIFY |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:13:36 PM EDT
[#19]
Energy storage company stocks finna be LIT.
Lithium battery MFR/lithium production stocks finna be LIT. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:15:09 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If this gets rid of ethanol as a fuel additive then I will hate him ever so slightly less. Evil shit should not be mandated nor subsidized to be in our gasoline. Shit is death for older vehicles and small engines. E85 should still be available for people who want it (because big power guys love it) but all other gas should be E0. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:15:53 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You forgot about disposal problems when those hazmat panels reach end of life. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Just wait till the nat gas starts drying up due to no more fraking, The power plants built recently suck huge amounts to generate electricity. Folks wont be able to heat or power their homes. Then Industry will leave the country because it cannot compete with other nations due to the high price of energy. And I work in the Nuclear industry. All the gov regulations make that power expensive as hell also. Solar plants use natural gas, too. LOL. The one on the CA/NV border on I-15 not only uses natural gas, but only creates 40% of the projected output and puts out more harmful emissions than a traditional power plant. It’s been called a model for the future of clean energy and the CA legislature wants to build more of them. Did it cause a dramatic spike in energy prices? Check Does it produce less power then a comparable NG plant? Check Did in enrich some Chinese company and their US based lobbyists? Check Did that Chinese company get their money's worth out of their pet politician? Check Is it going to result in inconsistent availability of power if it becomes the new standard? Check Sounds exactly like what a "model of the future" should look like per the current assholes in power. You forgot about disposal problems when those hazmat panels reach end of life. And the sheer amount of lithium batteries needed for energy storage since solar isnt "on demand". |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:16:37 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Subsidies are bad, but so is extreme regulation. They push the latter to sell the need for the former to make the industry reliant on them, thus giving govt more control over private industry. Removing the subsidies without removing the burdensome regulation is just blatantly trying to kill the industry. Gotcha. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:19:32 PM EDT
[#23]
Gamestop is coming
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:20:31 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Subsidies are bad, but so is extreme regulation. They push the latter to sell the need for the former to make the industry reliant on them, thus giving govt more control over private industry. Removing the subsidies without removing the burdensome regulation is just blatantly trying to kill the industry. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So he’s eliminating subsidies. Isn’t that a good thing? I mean they should be able to survive without a government bailout, right? Subsidies are bad, but so is extreme regulation. They push the latter to sell the need for the former to make the industry reliant on them, thus giving govt more control over private industry. Removing the subsidies without removing the burdensome regulation is just blatantly trying to kill the industry. I can agree with that. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:20:41 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So he's eliminating subsidies. Isn't that a good thing? I mean they should be able to survive without a government bailout, right? I'd like to see these "subsidies" as well. The commies call lower taxes subsidies, while actually handing over taxpayer money to companies like solyndra seems to be a-ok? |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:21:33 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Cities in deep blue states have already fired the opening salvos in the war on natural gas. They are not allowing nat gas connections to new construction homes. This is crazy. Natural gas burns incredibly clean. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:25:51 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait until he touches the third rail of ethanol subsidies because it doesn't fit the EV narrative. He could possibly be that stupid... Reporting this locally but spinning that the ethanol reduces carbon output......... |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:26:38 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is crazy. Natural gas burns incredibly clean. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Cities in deep blue states have already fired the opening salvos in the war on natural gas. They are not allowing nat gas connections to new construction homes. This is crazy. Natural gas burns incredibly clean. And? Are you under the mistaken assumption that any of this has anything to do with clean/dirty energy? Those are excuses. This is about power. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:26:41 PM EDT
[#29]
I'm just happy to learn that the ammo is coming back. Screw the poors, they can walk.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:29:58 PM EDT
[#30]
Ammo is gone for good as we used to know it. We'll be buying it at neckbeard and up prices closer to a black market like environment. The days of ordering it from your favorite online supplier or traditional retail store are gone for good. It may even get to the point of needing "connections" to buy it. No real shortage though, still as much as you'd like. If you can pay / have the connections, etc. Gasoline I'm predicting about $7.50 a gallon and the economy is tanked anyways, not much to drive to or buy.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:30:29 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: $10 gallon serves the interest of UriNation Agenda 2030. Only the elite will have cars. Peasants will BMW (bicycle, municipal transportation system and walk).  I've said it for years. "Liberals" are not progressive. They are regressive. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:31:05 PM EDT
[#32]
Lol, subsidies.
Not sure most know what that means. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:33:57 PM EDT
[#33]
When will Tommy stop and lock the door ....
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:35:20 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: this is a continuation of 2008. Same people who drug the economy down and climate changed us into stupidity are back in charge. All of them. Trump was a bump in the road. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I remember this particular flavor of self-indulgent hysteria from 2008. Let me try: REEEEEEE!!!!!!! this is a continuation of 2008. Same people who drug the economy down and climate changed us into stupidity are back in charge. All of them. Trump was a bump in the road. Exactly this. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:35:47 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When will Tommy stop and lock the door .... |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:39:03 PM EDT
[#36]
If he is truly removing government subsidies, then that is a good thing and a vote for the free market.
We should all be happy. (If true) |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:40:22 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A plumbing or appliance visit will cost another $50. Food costs will rise dramatically. Airline tickets will go up. And at the end of the day, I will still be eating. The people this will kill are the dem voters. And fixed income pensioners, and the rural poor of Appalachia, and first time wage earners, and so on... Think harder, it's not just Dems that suffer, and it's terribly one-dimensional to think that way. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:47:12 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Solar plants use natural gas, too. LOL. The one on the CA/NV border on I-15 not only uses natural gas, but only creates 40% of the projected output and puts out more harmful emissions than a traditional power plant. It’s been called a model for the future of clean energy and the CA legislature wants to build more of them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just wait till the nat gas starts drying up due to no more fraking, The power plants built recently suck huge amounts to generate electricity. Folks wont be able to heat or power their homes. Then Industry will leave the country because it cannot compete with other nations due to the high price of energy. And I work in the Nuclear industry. All the gov regulations make that power expensive as hell also. Solar plants use natural gas, too. LOL. The one on the CA/NV border on I-15 not only uses natural gas, but only creates 40% of the projected output and puts out more harmful emissions than a traditional power plant. It’s been called a model for the future of clean energy and the CA legislature wants to build more of them. Not to mention frying hundreds if not thousands of birds. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:48:38 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: $10 gallon serves the interest of UriNation Agenda 2030. Only the elite will have cars. Peasants will BMW (bicycle, municipal transportation system and walk). They really do want this. They want people using public transportation only. We aren't doing enough to fight back against these creeps. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:51:38 PM EDT
[#40]
hopefully will drop used toyota/lexus 4.6l prices.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:55:49 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Y'all gotta stop with the sky is falling. Max sustainable price would be between $4-5 a gallon right now. If oil ever reached approximately ~$200 / bbl, and $10+ gallon for gasoline, it would literally be the end of the country. Fire trucks couldn't run. EMS services couldn't run. Police couldn't run. Cities / County / States would go bankrupt trying to simply buy fuel. Let alone the federal government. Let alone private businesses closing their doors because they couldn't. If the above happens, it's revolution time. But it's HIGHLY doubtful it will ever get to that.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:56:37 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So he's eliminating subsidies. Isn't that a good thing? I mean they should be able to survive without a government bailout, right? |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:59:39 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd like to see these "subsidies" as well. The commies call lower taxes subsidies, while actually handing over taxpayer money to companies like solyndra seems to be a-ok? That’s a bit convoluted thinking. Not collecting a tax is giving a tax break. Still tax payer money going somewhere. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 3:20:01 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Subsidies are bad, but so is extreme regulation. They push the latter to sell the need for the former to make the industry reliant on them, thus giving govt more control over private industry. Removing the subsidies without removing the burdensome regulation is just blatantly trying to kill the industry. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So he’s eliminating subsidies. Isn’t that a good thing? I mean they should be able to survive without a government bailout, right? Subsidies are bad, but so is extreme regulation. They push the latter to sell the need for the former to make the industry reliant on them, thus giving govt more control over private industry. Removing the subsidies without removing the burdensome regulation is just blatantly trying to kill the industry. Aren't they really tax breaks? |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 3:20:11 PM EDT
[#45]
Fuck yes, I always wondered what living in the 1930s was like. Grapes of Wrath we we come.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 4:10:23 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Meanwhile... https://finance.yahoo.com/news/biden-issues-dozens-oil-drilling-160701825.html Despite all the uproar. Drilling and permitting from the Biden administration is still going... even though he said he was going to pause it. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 4:17:03 PM EDT
[#47]
 Anyone on this forum who voted for Joke Xiden, needs to be dick-punched! |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 4:32:11 PM EDT
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Lithium batteries need energy to recharge them - I don't think the US could afford enough solar panels to make the electricity to charge them, so the batteries would be basically worthless.
---- So far the EO's have been more knee jerk than actually pushing for $10 gas. When he bans domestic fracking - Opec will rejoice and we are fucked so bad we will see stars. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 4:38:53 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait until he touches the third rail of ethanol subsidies because it doesn't fit the EV narrative. He could possibly be that stupid... He/They want war in the streets. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 4:44:06 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe I'm not understanding what subsidies he is talking about. Don't worry, neither does anyone else. Probably because they don't actually exist. |
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