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Posted: 4/9/2018 2:39:10 PM EDT
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Esstac makes some amazing gear and I would highly recommend them. https://www.esstac.com
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Posted: 4/9/2018 2:57:34 PM EDT
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My top 2 are esstac and SKD.
Specifically, esstac's Daeodon and Daeodon Light/ASS, and the SKD PIG. |
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Posted: 4/9/2018 2:58:44 PM EDT
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Esstac makes some amazing gear and I would highly recommend them. https://www.esstac.com LBT - http://lbtinc.com/ Velocity Systems - https://www.velsyst.com/ |
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Posted: 4/9/2018 3:00:07 PM EDT
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Esstac every time. Awesome product, awesome people.
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Posted: 4/9/2018 3:08:24 PM EDT
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Esstac. I just got finished with Cola Warrior West IV, wore my new PC for basically four days straight. No chafing, no weirdness. I still need to fit it to me a bit more properly, but I'm extremely pleased with the quality.
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Posted: 4/9/2018 3:24:03 PM EDT
[#6]
Esstac or FirstSpear for me
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Posted: 4/9/2018 3:40:22 PM EDT
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First Spear.
What’s funny is they make some of the products you have listed above for others. |
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Posted: 4/9/2018 3:44:37 PM EDT
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I'd put Eagle Industries in there too.
ETA: Also Beez Combat Systems, though I might not put them at the top above some of the others mentioned here. Where they excel is in making carriers in sizes, colors, and styles that others simply don't. |
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Posted: 4/9/2018 3:49:30 PM EDT
[#9]
Esstac or SKD is your best bet. First Spear is nice but ridiculously expensive.
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Posted: 4/9/2018 3:52:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/9/2018 4:01:48 PM EDT
[#11]
+1 esstac
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Posted: 4/9/2018 4:16:51 PM EDT
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I'd put Eagle Industries in there too. ETA: Also Beez Combat Systems, though I might not put them at the top above some of the others mentioned here. Where they excel is in making carriers in sizes, colors, and styles that others simply don't. |
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Posted: 4/9/2018 5:00:11 PM EDT
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I have the ESSTAC ASS.
Good enough to win Cola Warrior in.  Kaik Obstacles CWC2 |
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Posted: 4/9/2018 5:06:24 PM EDT
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First Spear is the old Eagle Industries. Eagle was bought out by ATI and after awhile the original group started First Spear. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'd put Eagle Industries in there too. ETA: Also Beez Combat Systems, though I might not put them at the top above some of the others mentioned here. Where they excel is in making carriers in sizes, colors, and styles that others simply don't. |
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Posted: 4/9/2018 6:32:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/9/2018 9:10:14 PM EDT
[#16]
Esstac! It's the bomb.
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Posted: 4/9/2018 9:51:43 PM EDT
[#17]
This far an nobody said crye? Or BFG for that matter. I think in addition to quality in order for a brand to be top tier they need to do innovative stuff.
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Posted: 4/9/2018 10:07:46 PM EDT
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This far an nobody said crye? Or BFG for that matter. I think in addition to quality in order for a brand to be top tier they need to do innovative stuff. |
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Posted: 4/10/2018 1:04:48 PM EDT
[#19]
Ok, I have everything so far compiled in the OP. Should we do a second tier group?
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Posted: 4/10/2018 2:48:20 PM EDT
[#20]
when only the best will do
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Posted: 4/10/2018 3:29:06 PM EDT
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Ok, I have everything so far compiled in the OP. Should we do a second tier group? |
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Posted: 4/10/2018 4:48:52 PM EDT
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Second tier should just read "stop being poor" |
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Posted: 4/10/2018 6:02:36 PM EDT
[#23]
Doesn't Tactical Tailor make GGGs stuff?
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Posted: 4/10/2018 6:27:28 PM EDT
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Tac Tailor and GGG are one in the same -GGG is just an offshoot
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Posted: 4/10/2018 6:46:38 PM EDT
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Is the LBT 6094 still considered a good carrier? Have two that need plates. I know they're getting older as far as some of the super lightweight minimalist carriers.
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Posted: 4/10/2018 7:25:20 PM EDT
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Is the LBT 6094 still considered a good carrier? Have two that need plates. I know they're getting older as far as some of the super lightweight minimalist carriers. |
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Posted: 4/11/2018 4:36:41 PM EDT
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Is the LBT 6094 still considered a good carrier? Have two that need plates. I know they're getting older as far as some of the super lightweight minimalist carriers. |
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Posted: 4/11/2018 5:12:58 PM EDT
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@nvgeologist, @KaiK and @Click2Boom
How do you guys like the buckle system on the ESSTAC Daeodon Light versus a traditional cummerbund? nvgeologist and Kaik, did you find that the buckle system held the PC tight enough to your body as you were navigating Cola Warrior course? Kaik, you were almost upside down on the container section and it did not look like the carrier road up a lot. Kaik, you are obviously a big guy, is my assumption correct that you are a large in the Daeodon with 10x12" plates? Thanks |
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Posted: 4/11/2018 5:48:26 PM EDT
[#29]
What's everyone thoughts on Warrior Assault Systems?
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Posted: 4/11/2018 7:24:42 PM EDT
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@nvgeologist, @KaiK and @Click2Boom How do you guys like the buckle system on the ESSTAC Daeodon Light versus a traditional cummerbund? nvgeologist and Kaik, did you find that the buckle system held the PC tight enough to your body as you were navigating Cola Warrior course? Kaik, you were almost upside down on the container section and it did not look like the carrier road up a lot. Kaik, you are obviously a big guy, is my assumption correct that you are a large in the Daeodon with 10x12" plates? Thanks I have been all the way upside down with them doing close to the wall handstand pushups. It didn't move. Yeah I have 10x12 special threat plates that ESSTAC sells on thier site. |
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Posted: 4/11/2018 10:14:10 PM EDT
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esstac's Daeodon with two M4 & two pistol magazine carriers with High Com LIV large ESAPI ceramic plates is my duty setup using the cobra belt/buckle set up. Works great. The guys with the "deal" using Condor PC and AR500 steel hated theirs after only 4 hours of light training.
Thanks Stu for helping me get what I needed. |
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Posted: 4/12/2018 9:56:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It stays put. The buckles work great. They are a little hard to buckle sometimes. But that's not a big deal. I have been all the way upside down with them doing close to the wall handstand pushups. It didn't move. Yeah I have 10x12 special threat plates that ESSTAC sells on thier site. 
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Posted: 4/12/2018 11:31:54 AM EDT
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@nvgeologist, @KaiK and @Click2Boom How do you guys like the buckle system on the ESSTAC Daeodon Light versus a traditional cummerbund? nvgeologist and Kaik, did you find that the buckle system held the PC tight enough to your body as you were navigating Cola Warrior course? Kaik, you were almost upside down on the container section and it did not look like the carrier road up a lot. Kaik, you are obviously a big guy, is my assumption correct that you are a large in the Daeodon with 10x12" plates? Thanks 
I questioned them as to why they used plastic buckles instead of metal when I first put it on, and the answer of "weight" and "sometimes you want shit to break so you can get it off" made enough sense that I'm not swapping it out in the near future. I'll post more intelligent feedback and followup when I have some time in it. |
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Posted: 4/12/2018 11:34:43 AM EDT
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I use Shellback Tactical with good results
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Posted: 4/12/2018 8:22:41 PM EDT
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I use Shellback Tactical with good results |
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Posted: 4/14/2018 5:00:01 PM EDT
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I use Shellback Tactical with good results |
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Posted: 4/14/2018 6:03:31 PM EDT
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I am personally really stretching the word "use", but I've had the same experience using the Banshee. I've played with the idea of going with a few other carrier, especially the Esstac, but the Banshee has filled the minimal needs I have. Any reason it didn't make the list? Also curious about the Warrior DCS. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I use Shellback Tactical with good results |
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Posted: 4/15/2018 2:18:00 AM EDT
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Vel Tye is popular in government circles. It is mostly soft plus plates though.
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Posted: 4/20/2018 3:33:26 PM EDT
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How about Ferro Concepts? I am looking at a Slickster when funds allow.
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Posted: 4/20/2018 3:37:04 PM EDT
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How about Ferro Concepts? I am looking at a Slickster when funds allow. |
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Posted: 4/20/2018 3:56:23 PM EDT
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Mayflower APC
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Posted: 4/20/2018 10:15:39 PM EDT
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Don't take this the wrong way but, what's your point? They're separate companies that make different products and that's what's relevant here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'd put Eagle Industries in there too. ETA: Also Beez Combat Systems, though I might not put them at the top above some of the others mentioned here. Where they excel is in making carriers in sizes, colors, and styles that others simply don't. Here in StL, many guys remember the old Eagle Industries and refer to it as such. They dont realize that the new Eagle Industries is not the old company and doesnt do what the old company did. That's more of a local thing here that isnt applicable to this thread. Sorry about that. |
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Posted: 4/21/2018 2:03:45 AM EDT
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After seeing the esstac plate carrier I'm really lusting after a plate carrier setup. What do you guys think of the Daedon ASS package?
https://www.esstac.com/product-page/daeodon-ass-plate-package Its either that or buy a carrier and get hesco 3610 plates. Which will definitely be more spendy. |
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Posted: 4/21/2018 8:36:07 AM EDT
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After seeing the esstac plate carrier I'm really lusting after a plate carrier setup. What do you guys think of the Daedon ASS package? https://www.esstac.com/product-page/daeodon-ass-plate-package Its either that or buy a carrier and get hesco 3610 plates. Which will definitely be more spendy. |
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Posted: 4/21/2018 10:17:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do you hate NIJ IV? |
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Posted: 4/21/2018 12:42:06 PM EDT
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I legitimately have no idea what I'm doing. I just started looking into this and there's tons of options. What do you suggest? Keeping it light is my main concern. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Why do you hate NIJ IV? There's absolutely nothing wrong with those Hescos other than they're single curve. I wholeheartedly recommend anyone using plates within the US to go with something like those Hescos, a level III+ ceramic/poly plate. Stops all common threats while still being fairly light. |
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Posted: 4/21/2018 3:30:57 PM EDT
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Level IV is entirely unnecessary unless you'll be in environment where large caliber AP rounds are a prevalent threat. There's absolutely nothing wrong with those Hescos other than they're single curve. I wholeheartedly recommend anyone using plates within the US to go with something like those Hescos, a level III+ ceramic/poly plate. Stops all common threats while still being fairly light. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Why do you hate NIJ IV? There's absolutely nothing wrong with those Hescos other than they're single curve. I wholeheartedly recommend anyone using plates within the US to go with something like those Hescos, a level III+ ceramic/poly plate. Stops all common threats while still being fairly light. I'm looking at Esstac or Crye for the carrier, like with the plates, weight is a concern with mounting options being next. I'd like to stay simple, 3 rifle and pistol mags, ifak with tq, and the crye jpc with optional zip on packs looks really handy. |
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Posted: 4/21/2018 4:49:54 PM EDT
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So the 3610 is a good choice right? It's a 3+ at 4.4lbs, multi curve too. I'm looking at Esstac or Crye for the carrier, like with the plates, weight is a concern with mounting options being next. I'd like to stay simple, 3 rifle and pistol mags, ifak with tq, and the crye jpc with optional zip on packs looks really handy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Why do you hate NIJ IV? There's absolutely nothing wrong with those Hescos other than they're single curve. I wholeheartedly recommend anyone using plates within the US to go with something like those Hescos, a level III+ ceramic/poly plate. Stops all common threats while still being fairly light. I'm looking at Esstac or Crye for the carrier, like with the plates, weight is a concern with mounting options being next. I'd like to stay simple, 3 rifle and pistol mags, ifak with tq, and the crye jpc with optional zip on packs looks really handy. Carrier choice is a bit more complicated and various factors such as desired features, weight, plate size/cut, etc. all have to be considered. It's very much a personal thing and everyone is a bit different in this regard. My advice: get the simplest solution possible that allows you to do what you need it to do. |
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Posted: 4/21/2018 5:37:54 PM EDT
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Absolutely the 3610 is a good choice. Exactly the kind of plate I recommend. Carrier choice is a bit more complicated and various factors such as desired features, weight, plate size/cut, etc. all have to be considered. It's very much a personal thing and everyone is a bit different in this regard. My advice: get the simplest solution possible that allows you to do what you need it to do. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Why do you hate NIJ IV? There's absolutely nothing wrong with those Hescos other than they're single curve. I wholeheartedly recommend anyone using plates within the US to go with something like those Hescos, a level III+ ceramic/poly plate. Stops all common threats while still being fairly light. I'm looking at Esstac or Crye for the carrier, like with the plates, weight is a concern with mounting options being next. I'd like to stay simple, 3 rifle and pistol mags, ifak with tq, and the crye jpc with optional zip on packs looks really handy. Carrier choice is a bit more complicated and various factors such as desired features, weight, plate size/cut, etc. all have to be considered. It's very much a personal thing and everyone is a bit different in this regard. My advice: get the simplest solution possible that allows you to do what you need it to do. |
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Posted: 4/21/2018 8:51:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like that advice, I have a similar mindset. Thanks for the info. Either way, get some plates. 
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