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NC, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:11:49 AM EDT
I've read that the 9mm conversions for the AUG and Tavor/X95 were banned by the ATF.
True or Fudd lore? If true, why? |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:26:13 AM EDT
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https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/_GOV_ban_and_Steyr/43-427234/
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:31:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By User55645: https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/_GOV_ban_and_Steyr/43-427234/ |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:33:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jhereg: It would seem that whole "sporting" thing is ripe to be thrown out. I mean, I hope it's "all" thrown out 
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NC, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:12:13 PM EDT
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So because the barrels aren't made in the US, they are non-sporting?
I thought we were still getting 223 AUG barrels from Austria and aren't X95 barrels from Israel? |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:21:10 PM EDT
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Supposedly accourding to that TFB vid on the AUG 300 blkout steyr is working on correcting the 9mm conversion.
Would be nice last kit RTG had last month was 5K with 4 mags. Hhmmm buy 3 AUGs from PSA and some mags & ammo or one 9mm convesion. Only way I could see even contimplating the kit @ 5K would be if I owned a transferable and then I'd have to,really really sell it to myself. |
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MP, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:42:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jhereg: It would seem that whole "sporting" thing is ripe to be thrown out. It absolutely is, and it must be taken to court ASAP. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2023 2:23:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OTHP: Supposedly accourding to that TFB vid on the AUG 300 blkout steyr is working on correcting the 9mm conversion. I want a 9mm bullpup. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2023 8:04:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By User55645: https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/_GOV_ban_and_Steyr/43-427234/ Doesn’t really explain the Tavor 9mm ban. The 5.56 Tavor barrels are already made in Israel, so the 9mm barrels also being made there shouldn’t have been an issue. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 8:30:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: KitBuilder]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmk0210: So because the barrels aren't made in the US, they are non-sporting? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmk0210: So because the barrels aren't made in the US, they are non-sporting? I thought we were still getting 223 AUG barrels from Austria and aren't X95 barrels from Israel? Idk about X95 barrels. |
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USA
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:15:21 PM EDT
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Did someone say 9mm AUG?
 Seriously though, what I wrote in that thread nearly 10 years ago still stands today. If Steyr comes out with something "different" and you want it, you'd better buy it right then otherwise you'll likely miss out. It's proven time and time and time again from clear mags to 14" barrels to stripped receivers to whatever. Of course it's not always convenient on wallet but if you miss that train the only way to get the item is to pay much much more than the original cost. |
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MP, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:00:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 80085: Did someone say 9mm AUG? https://i.imgur.com/RYJy4s6.jpg Seriously though, what I wrote in that thread nearly 10 years ago still stands today. If Steyr comes out with something "different" and you want it, you'd better buy it right then otherwise you'll likely miss out. It's proven time and time and time again from clear mags to 14" barrels to stripped receivers to whatever. Of course it's not always convenient on wallet but if you miss that train the only way to get the item is to pay much much more than the original cost. Amen. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 10/13/2023 11:09:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By willi3d: Doesn't really explain the Tavor 9mm ban. The 5.56 Tavor barrels are already made in Israel, so the 9mm barrels also being made there shouldn't have been an issue. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 10/17/2023 11:10:12 PM EDT
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rotary delayed 9mm tavor be kick azz
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Posted: 10/17/2023 11:35:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By willi3d: Doesn’t really explain the Tavor 9mm ban. The 5.56 Tavor barrels are already made in Israel, so the 9mm barrels also being made there shouldn’t have been an issue. I thought it was because IWI dropped the Tavor in favor of the x95. So, my 9mm kit would work on an x95 you're telling me? |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 10/17/2023 11:42:52 PM EDT
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Pretty sure the mounts for the rail that attaches to the barrel on the X95 vs the Sar are different.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 10/18/2023 10:38:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xdmikey: I thought it was because IWI dropped the Tavor in favor of the x95. So, my 9mm kit would work on an x95 you're telling me? I always thought there was a 9mm kit for the X95. So IWI never did make one? |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 10/18/2023 11:50:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xdmikey: I thought it was because IWI dropped the Tavor in favor of the x95. So, my 9mm kit would work on an x95 you're telling me? I’m not saying that at all. Don’t know if it will or won’t. Although I have both a SAR and X95, my only experience is converting my 5.56 SAR to 9mm using the kit made for the SAR. As I remember, IWI both released the X95 in 9mm form, and also had a X95 caliber conversion, (although that may have been to convert the 9mm guns to 5.56). |
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Posted: 10/18/2023 12:00:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OTHP: Supposedly accourding to that TFB vid on the AUG 300 blkout steyr is working on correcting the 9mm conversion. Would be nice last kit RTG had last month was 5K with 4 mags. Hhmmm buy 3 AUGs from PSA and some mags & ammo or one 9mm convesion. Only way I could see even contimplating the kit @ 5K would be if I owned a transferable and then I'd have to,really really sell it to myself. Kind of this. An 8.5# blowback 9mm in a 5.56 package firearm, for $5K. That's a tough sell. As you say, maybe it was full-auto. |
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Posted: 10/18/2023 12:04:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 80085: Did someone say 9mm AUG? https://i.imgur.com/RYJy4s6.jpg Seriously though, what I wrote in that thread nearly 10 years ago still stands today. If Steyr comes out with something "different" and you want it, you'd better buy it right then otherwise you'll likely miss out. It's proven time and time and time again from clear mags to 14" barrels to stripped receivers to whatever. Of course it's not always convenient on wallet but if you miss that train the only way to get the item is to pay much much more than the original cost. Heh too true. Here's a live-shot of the Steyr Product Development Team currently at peak output. |
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Posted: 10/18/2023 4:33:50 PM EDT
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My JRC 9mm carbine weighs 1.5 #s less than my 9mm Tavor but the Tavor is NOT field swappable, at least for me.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 10/19/2023 3:03:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmk0210: So because the barrels aren't made in the US, they are non-sporting? I thought we were still getting 223 AUG barrels from Austria and aren't X95 barrels from Israel? X95, T7, SAR, VHS, HK rifles, ,CZ, B&T & every foreign made AK on the market all have barrels made in their respective countries. I never understood why Steyr US couldn’t bring Austrian made chrome lined AUG bbls. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/19/2024 5:45:41 AM EDT
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I noticed these factory 9mm Aug parts on a foreign site…
https://unlimiteddynamics.eu/en_us/product/steyr-magazin-aug-9x19-28-schuss/ https://unlimiteddynamics.eu/en_us/product/steyr-aug-schlageinrichtung-pcc-inkl-ausstoser/ |
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