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Posted: 5/20/2020 12:27:18 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By tripleoption:

From what I'm hearing their customer service has gotten a lot better over the years. There seemed to be lots of horror stories when it first came out, which was one reason I didn't get one. Of course, I was basing it on what I was seeing online, squeaky wheel gets the grease, all that. I wasn't sure about support or service. They actually have conversions and support the rifle. It seems to have out ACR'd the ACR. I'm definitely leaning more and more towards one.

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I will completely agree, their customer service was...tough to put it mildly. Everyone always references an old announcement that Alex sent out years ago that pissed a whole bunch of people off. And again because they are a small shop, things were slow, and support was hard for early adopters. Like the XCR, their whole business model has improved, as I said i have been treated with nothing but class in my dealings with them.

And yes, the ACR was DOA, the XCR has continued to mature and improve. I actually sold an ACR to buy my first XCR, it was a decision quickly rewarded..

Posted: 5/20/2020 1:12:02 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Miami_JBT:
I'd like an earlier model with the updated parts.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4e/En-Xcr_cqb.PNG/1200px-En-Xcr_cqb.PNG

It is the spiritual successor to the Daewoo K2.

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That's kind of what I'm thinking too.

I'm looking at a new production one myself

Posted: 5/20/2020 2:30:41 PM EDT

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Talking about the support...

I had my rifle cerakoted by an LGS. They forgot to give me all the pieces back that they didn't know where to put them.

At the same time, I had ordered a barrel from Robinson. My barrel came in and they called me.

I asked if I could save myself the shipping by coming by to pick it up and I had some questions about whether I had all the parts my rifle needed. They made an appointment for me to stop in. Alex checked my rifle out, commented about the nice cerakote job, made sure everything was where it belonged, found a couple of missing parts and offered to install my barrel.

He noted some of the cerakote material had gotten into the barrel channel, asked if I could leave the rifle for a day or so and he'd have one of the gunsmiths ream the channel out to make it fit better, and i said, sure.

Showed up a couple of days later, Alex came out, said it was a nice tight fit, had the barrel installed, rifle checked out. I paid for the barrel, got a veteran discount, and was on my way. They threw in the missing small parts. That wasn't even their fault - it was the fault of the cerakoter and I offered to pay for them, but they made it good on their own dime.

The whole experience was great.

Posted: 5/20/2020 2:40:36 PM EDT

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Can some of you guys with XCRs post a picture of it next to an AR with the same length barrel. I know the receivers are a bit longer but don’t know the actual difference.

I’ve always wanted to pick up a shorty XCR but never have.

Posted: 5/20/2020 2:43:09 PM EDT

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How about an MCX?

16' MCX, 16" XCR-L, 10.5" MCX, and an XCR-M

ETA - here you go, next to a 16" barreled LaRue.

Posted: 5/20/2020 3:47:30 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
Can some of you guys with XCRs post a picture of it next to an AR with the same length barrel. I know the receivers are a bit longer but don’t know the actual difference.

I’ve always wanted to pick up a shorty XCR but never have.

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Before I sold my 10.5 AR, I checked the OAL to my 10" XCR, they were withing about an inch of each other. If you contact ROBARM, they will provide you OAL's both open and folded.

Posted: 5/20/2020 5:48:10 PM EDT

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I want to get one of the older gen guns with the tubular folding stock - those remind me of the preban 80s imports like the FNC, Galil, FAL paras, etc.

Posted: 5/20/2020 7:06:48 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By tripleoption:
I've been wanting an XCR for awhile now, just haven't been willing to put the money down on it yet. Reading this thread has got me leaning towards it again. I really just want one to add to the collection, but I read an interesting thread on the XCR forum about the XCR being a go to war gun. That thread ran from 2011 to December 2018. I'd think a better way to ask that is would it make a good SHTF rifle?

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Originally Posted By tripleoption:
I've been wanting an XCR for awhile now, just haven't been willing to put the money down on it yet. Reading this thread has got me leaning towards it again. I really just want one to add to the collection, but I read an interesting thread on the XCR forum about the XCR being a go to war gun. That thread ran from 2011 to December 2018. I'd think a better way to ask that is would it make a good SHTF rifle?

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I've been wanting an XCR for awhile now, just haven't been willing to put the money down on it yet. Reading this thread has got me leaning towards it again. I really just want one to add to the collection, but I read an interesting thread on the XCR forum about the XCR being a go to war gun. That thread ran from 2011 to December 2018. I'd think a better way to ask that is would it make a good SHTF rifle?

AR's have been soldiering on for decades and the XCR is hellishly more stoutly-built than that, and with fewer parts to boot. My XCR with a 1-4x and an InForce WML is my general-purpose go-to rifle.

Posted: 5/20/2020 8:49:40 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Apec:
I want to get one of the older gen guns with the tubular folding stock - those remind me of the preban 80s imports like the FNC, Galil, FAL paras, etc.

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Again, check out Gunbroker.

Posted: 5/20/2020 9:41:31 PM EDT

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We've heard about how durable and reliable they are.. but how accurate are they? Is an XCR-M in 6.5CM going to be DMR-worthy?

Posted: 5/20/2020 9:53:40 PM EDT

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Both my 6.5 gren and my 556 pistol are incredibly accurate. My 6.5 gren is a laser with hornady black, and my 10" pistol is a sub moa gun with 75 grain match. Both have lightweight barrels. I carry my grendel deer hunting.

Posted: 5/20/2020 10:04:33 PM EDT

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My XCR-M is quite accurate. I am just using a 3x ACOG and it does great with M80 and M118LR. I suspect a Creedmoor would be better.

But I only shoot Creedmoor in bolt rifles because I hate brutalizing that expensive brass.

Posted: 5/20/2020 11:34:32 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By sgwlower:
Both my 6.5 gren and my 556 pistol are incredibly accurate. My 6.5 gren is a laser with hornady black, and my 10" pistol is a sub moa gun with 75 grain match. Both have lightweight barrels. I carry my grendel deer hunting.

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So there's no need to go longer.. that's good to know. Is that the light or heavy profile?

I'm seriously considering cashing out on a few other rifles to consolidate to a 5.56 pistol with a .300BO barrel, and a .308 with a 6.5CM barrel. Best of all worlds, if the hype is real.

Posted: 5/21/2020 5:48:40 AM EDT

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For me the lightweights have been very accurate. And for me the hype has been real.

I too have a 9.5 300 BLK barrel for my pistol, of the 300's I have shot, it continues to be the most accurate.

Posted: 5/21/2020 9:14:41 AM EDT

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Accuracy

10" 556 75 gr 50 yards on the left, 100yards on the right

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6.5 Grendel first group....it's only got better as the barrel broke in

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Posted: 5/21/2020 10:16:02 AM EDT

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Quite nice.
I was a little hesitant to go with a light barrel when I ordered.
I went with the light barrel and now looking forward to see what it will do.

Posted: 5/21/2020 10:56:56 AM EDT

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Thanks for the reports on current function and groups. Looks like this is what I should have bought years ago instead of my now sold 805 Bren that got damn hot at the handguard very fast and choked on steel case ammo.

I still have 556 aks and piles of mags that don't share..

Posted: 5/21/2020 5:58:51 PM EDT

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I've got one of the earlier ones. I don't shoot it very much, probably because the trigger is so awful. I should probably sell it and buy a newer model.

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@ken_mays Check with Robinson to see if you can just send in your lower and upgrade the trigger. Or maybe @XCRMonger would have an idea for you.

Posted: 5/21/2020 6:21:08 PM EDT

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@ken_mays Check with Robinson to see if you can just send in your lower and upgrade the trigger. Or maybe @XCRMonger would have an idea for you.

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Yup send ROBARM an email, they can fully upgrade your rifle to all of the newest parts other than Mlok or keymod for cheap.

Posted: 5/21/2020 7:05:51 PM EDT

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Am I late to the party???

You inspired me to take a new photo of mine. Of course, I’m not much of a photographer, but you get what you get.

I was admittedly apprehensive when I bought (has it already been a decade?), having heard the early CS stories. I bought with open eyes and so glad I did. What a fantastic rifle. I did 3 gun with it for years (until it got too busy and matches took 8 hours).

There’s been an update or two since mine, but I have the second gen gas and trigger. Controls are all right where they’re supposed to be. Got in on limited runs of aftermarket ACR stock adapter and folding charging handle.

I wanted caliber change and glad I didn’t go ACR, even though it definitely looks better than the XCR. But I’m a function over form guy.

I recently got an AR and a LPVO, which I think I’m gonna put on the XCR and move the EOTech over to the AR. Still waiting for MI weather to be reasonable to have a range day and try both ways.

Can’t say enough good about it. Only drawback is trying to find the brass it flings 20 feet away.

Posted: 5/21/2020 9:23:54 PM EDT

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Am I late to the party???

You inspired me to take a new photo of mine. Of course, I’m not much of a photographer, but you get what you get.

https://i.postimg.cc/vTqvjmZq/0-C41-C202-0-A76-4-DDA-8-FC7-A176-FC7-D4-C65.jpg

I was admittedly apprehensive when I bought (has it already been a decade?), having heard the early CS stories. I bought with open eyes and so glad I did. What a fantastic rifle. I did 3 gun with it for years (until it got too busy and matches took 8 hours).

There’s been an update or two since mine, but I have the second gen gas and trigger. Controls are all right where they’re supposed to be. Got in on limited runs of aftermarket ACR stock adapter and folding charging handle.

I wanted caliber change and glad I didn’t go ACR, even though it definitely looks better than the XCR. But I’m a function over form guy.

I recently got an AR and a LPVO, which I think I’m gonna put on the XCR and move the EOTech over to the AR. Still waiting for MI weather to be reasonable to have a range day and try both ways.

Can’t say enough good about it. Only drawback is trying to find the brass it flings 20 feet away.

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I want that folding charging handle.

Posted: 5/21/2020 9:35:42 PM EDT

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I want that folding charging handle.

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Agreed, one of the few things that I wish another run could be made.

Posted: 5/21/2020 10:26:59 PM EDT

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There is exactly 1 (one) older XCR listed on Gunbroker right now.

I have an older model with the tubular stock and am considering an older style SBR model if I could locate it.

Apparently I won't find one on Gunbroker.

Posted: 5/21/2020 11:56:17 PM EDT

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Agreed, one of the few things that I wish another run could be made.

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I want that folding charging handle.

Agreed, one of the few things that I wish another run could be made.

The guy who makes them (mountainman) still posts actively on FALfiles and is in the process of making FAL para nose cutter jigs. Is he not taking any requests for these?

Posted: 5/22/2020 5:43:39 AM EDT

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The guy who makes them (mountainman) still posts actively on FALfiles and is in the process of making FAL para nose cutter jigs. Is he not taking any requests for these?

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I don't think so, I believe it was a parts issue.

Posted: 5/22/2020 5:47:00 AM EDT

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There is exactly 1 (one) older XCR listed on Gunbroker right now.

I have an older model with the tubular stock and am considering an older style SBR model if I could locate it.

Apparently I won't find one on Gunbroker.

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I see three with the old tube style stock, and one older style 6.8 pistol.

https://www.gunbroker.com/All/search?Keywords=Robinson%20armament&Sort=13

Posted: 5/22/2020 6:52:55 AM EDT

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Love mine

Posted: 5/24/2020 1:11:49 PM EDT

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I’ve owned a few xcr’s over the years, never had any issues outside of a bent hammer retaining clip. My current xcr is the gen2, sbr with 5.56 & 7.62x39. It’s a little heavy with the quad rail, but I’m not sure how much weight reduction there is with the keymod or mlok uppers they offer now.

Here it is with my sbr acr, both have been great so far

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Posted: 5/24/2020 10:27:58 PM EDT

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Cerakoted my 300 blk pistol.

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Posted: 5/24/2020 10:58:43 PM EDT

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Cerakoted my 300 blk pistol.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/23396/FBF19CB8-1E4E-4BDF-A1D3-14E3F7C207BC_jpe-1431543.JPG

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Beautiful!

Posted: 5/25/2020 3:41:32 AM EDT

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Cerakoted my 300 blk pistol.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/23396/FBF19CB8-1E4E-4BDF-A1D3-14E3F7C207BC_jpe-1431543.JPG

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Nice cammo blanket but the pics of your XCR aren't loading.

Posted: 5/25/2020 10:13:07 AM EDT

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do the short barrel pistols have adjustable gas blocks for suppressor use?

Posted: 5/25/2020 10:23:20 AM EDT

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do the short barrel pistols have adjustable gas blocks for suppressor use?

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They all do.

Posted: 5/25/2020 1:22:44 PM EDT

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They make nice sbrs

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Beautiful rifle.

Posted: 5/25/2020 4:11:34 PM EDT

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I’ve owned a few xcr’s over the years, never had any issues outside of a bent hammer retaining clip. My current xcr is the gen2, sbr with 5.56 & 7.62x39. It’s a little heavy with the quad rail, but I’m not sure how much weight reduction there is with the keymod or mlok uppers they offer now.

Here it is with my sbr acr, both have been great so far

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Love it.
I was told 6-8 weeks a week ago
So 5-7 to go

Posted: 5/25/2020 4:12:31 PM EDT

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Cerakoted my 300 blk pistol.
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That is really a good looking cerakote job....

Posted: 5/25/2020 4:27:37 PM EDT

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do the short barrel pistols have adjustable gas blocks for suppressor use?

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All XCRs are adjustable gas

Posted: 5/25/2020 4:40:59 PM EDT

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ANYONE COMPARE IT TO CZ BREN 2 YET?

Posted: 5/25/2020 5:14:12 PM EDT

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That is really a good looking cerakote job....

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Many thanks. Bid be lying if I said I’m not proud of how it turned out.

Posted: 5/25/2020 5:42:45 PM EDT

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All XCRs are adjustable gas

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Compared my 10" pistol to my buddies Bren 2 14". Weight was similar, as we have bout set ours up with LPVO's.

Both agreed my XCR has less recoil. The Bren is a little more "clunky" due to the use of polymer, but the Bren is a very nice gun.

My XCR seemed to be more accurate.

Hard to compare the two, as the XCR has multiple different set ups, with true caliber diversity, where the Bren, you got what you get.

Posted: 5/26/2020 10:33:49 AM EDT

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I hit the range yesterday. Switching optics around and wanted to do some accuracy tests, but one of the kids tagged along and it was 90+ degrees so we didn’t stay as long as I would’ve otherwise.

I will say that .223/5.56 is pretty negligible recoil, but it’s even less with the XCR than the AR.

Posted: 5/26/2020 6:41:12 PM EDT

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We've heard about how durable and reliable they are.. but how accurate are they? Is an XCR-M in 6.5CM going to be DMR-worthy?

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No experience with the -M, but my -L gets .6" with Prvi 75 gr. BTHP. The only reason that it's not my DMR anymore is that of weight distribution: one of my AR's shoots just as well, but is lighter with a 3-15x scope and Magpul bipod.