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Posted: 7/20/2021 3:31:16 AM EDT
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Doubtful, Ruger already ate their lunch on that one.
Also, the 5-7 ergos are mostly trash because they're trying to cram a magazine for 28mm long cartridge into the grip. There's not much they can update about that. |
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Posted: 7/20/2021 8:44:13 AM EDT
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At the same time they update the SCAR, so never?
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Posted: 7/20/2021 8:53:38 AM EDT
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Never.
It was only created to tie into the P90 and nobody bought them. |
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Posted: 7/20/2021 9:13:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Never. It was only created to tie into the P90 and nobody bought them. The Five-seveN has been through 5 revisions. The MK2 is the current. The safety selectors have been the same since the second gen, and the mag release was changed with the USG. While I feed the bore axis is a little higher than the Ruger 57, I prefer the controls on the FSN lightyears over the R57. I don't like thumb safeties, and the FSN's safety is where my trigger finger goes anyways. I can easily use the mag release as well. FN Specialties showed it was possible to mount an RDS up top. But that kit is not for everyone since he re-designed the slide cover. |
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Posted: 7/20/2021 9:21:48 AM EDT
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Seems unlikely. They can't be selling that many of them now and I don't think an optic cut is going to have people rushing out to buy one.
FN $1300 Ruger $650 That's a hard sell regardless of features. |
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Posted: 7/20/2021 9:35:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems unlikely. They can't be selling that many of them now and I don't think an optic cut is going to have people rushing out to buy one. FN $1300 Ruger $650 That's a hard sell regardless of features. |
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Posted: 7/20/2021 9:58:24 AM EDT
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You can mount optics to a Ruger 57.
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Posted: 7/20/2021 10:00:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can mount optics to a Ruger 57. |
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Posted: 7/20/2021 10:05:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the MSRP of the FSN. Most can get it in the 999-1100 range. And they seem to sell every single one they have.. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Seems unlikely. They can't be selling that many of them now and I don't think an optic cut is going to have people rushing out to buy one. FN $1300 Ruger $650 That's a hard sell regardless of features. No matter how you slice it, it’s still about $400 more than the Ruger, and that will be a deal breaker for many people. I have both pistols, and personally prefer my FN over my Ruger. I don’t think the ergos on the Ruger are noticeably better than on FN. |
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Posted: 7/20/2021 10:08:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can mount optics to a Ruger 57. Yeah, but they don’t make plates for the more popular pistol RDS like the RMR, so you can mount some optics. |
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Posted: 7/20/2021 10:17:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No matter how you slice it, it's still about $400 more than the Ruger, and that will be a deal breaker for many people. I have both pistols, and personally prefer my FN over my Ruger. I don't think the ergos on the Ruger are noticeably better than on FN. |
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Posted: 7/20/2021 10:22:43 AM EDT
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FN has slashed the MSRP about $200...they arent $1399 anymore but 1199 msrp...
Problem is...many FFLs will charge full MSRP now due to the climate of things...so we won't see many below $999 for a while... |
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Posted: 7/20/2021 12:52:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: it also has a shitty mag release, Quote HistoryQuoted: it also has a shitty mag release, THIS^^^^ Quoted:[/quote No matter how you slice it, it’s still about $400 more than the Ruger, and that will be a deal breaker for many people. I have both pistols, and personally prefer my FN over my Ruger. I don’t think the ergos on the Ruger are noticeably better than on FN. ALSO THIS^^^^ I also have both, the FN has a much superior takedown, FN’s magazine release is LIGHTYEARS better than Ruger’s and my Ruger has the upgraded F5 magazine release. |
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Posted: 7/20/2021 9:22:51 PM EDT
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Yea I will not be getting a ruger 57 ever. Not interested. Not a big fan of Ruger. If I’m gonna invest in 57 I’m gonna go with an FN. just wishing it would be a bigger update rather then the slight rolling changes they’ve made over the years.
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Posted: 7/20/2021 10:20:39 PM EDT
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FN57 always felt like a VHS tape to me
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Posted: 7/21/2021 9:09:56 AM EDT
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I don’t want to say it’s perfect, but aside from the rolling updates from the early DA-only models to the IOM to the USG to the Mk2, not sure what else they could do. For the record, I have an early USG. Price sticker on the FN box was $860, I’ve had it so long.
 Doing a “Tactical” variant with a factory threaded barrel and integrated MRDS mount would be nice. Would slot in with the FNX-45 and 509 Tacticals. Suppose sales aren’t there to support it. I like the look of the new full-FDE Mk2 and I’m considering getting one. Guarantee they’ll make a Mk3 Tactical as soon as I do though.  Not at all interested in the Ruger 57 aside from hoping it generates more 5.7 ammo manufacture. |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 12:28:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FN has slashed the MSRP about $200...they arent $1399 anymore but 1199 msrp... Problem is...many FFLs will charge full MSRP now due to the climate of things...so we won't see many below $999 for a while... In case anyone is looking, GunZoneDeals.com emails have it listed at $979. The cheapest I've seen in 2 years is $949, but I don't keep track either. |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 9:22:01 PM EDT
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FN FiveseveN pistol vs Ruger 57
FN: PRO I actually prefer the safety AFTER practice Easy to hit magazine release Damn reliable Trigger job available from TWO sources. SUB 4 lbs. Tritium sights available, fixed sights available Several aftermarket barrels available, longer and threaded Cons: Fugly Some shooters HATE the safety location NOT red dot sight ready Price should be HALF what FN charges Ruger PRO: Looks a hell of a lot better than the FN Smaller grip Safety in conventional location Some shooters prefer the grip angle Cons: Magazine release is CRAP unless you have orangutan thumbs Takedown is not NEAR as easy as the FN Reports of rusting No aftermarket sights No one offering a trigger job No aftermarket barrels |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 5:58:39 PM EDT
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Had the Five Seven but ended up selling it a while back due to divorce proceedings, wanted to buy another but right now even though ammo is stupid expensive so are the
pistols, they are not worth 1k IMHO, would get a Ruger but I'm waiting for them to bottom out due to the ammo bullshit. |
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