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Posted: 4/3/2018 3:41:04 AM EDT
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Plate-size determines carrier size; med-med, large-large, etc.
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Posted: 4/3/2018 10:18:38 AM EDT
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9.75x11.75 is nominally 10x12. It's closer to 9.5x12.5 sapi medium than anything else. I would try a medium size first.
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Posted: 4/3/2018 12:22:45 PM EDT
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Plate-size determines carrier size; med-med, large-large, etc. |
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Posted: 4/3/2018 12:25:28 PM EDT
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9.75x11.75 is nominally 10x12. It's closer to 9.5x12.5 sapi medium than anything else. I would try a medium size first. |
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Posted: 4/3/2018 12:35:49 PM EDT
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Sized by plate size...
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Posted: 4/3/2018 12:48:40 PM EDT
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Sized by plate size... |
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Posted: 4/3/2018 1:04:47 PM EDT
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I just got of the phone with Crye and they said sizing is based off chest size not plate size but if I'm using Polyethylene plates to go up one size due to thickness of those plates.
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Posted: 4/3/2018 6:12:12 PM EDT
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Curious why they have sizing by chest size on their site? Look here. I believe you guys but don't know why they would put that there. And thank you. |
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Posted: 4/3/2018 6:31:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Consider it from the view of their main customers, military and government. You size the carrier to your chest/body, then acquire the right size plate to go with it. SAPI sizing is the standard because that's what the military issues. The civilian market gets confusing because the 10x12 standard doesn't line up with a SAPI size. It won't fit exactly right in a JPC, and the JPC doesn't have any extra straps or velcro to support an odd sized plate. |
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Posted: 4/3/2018 6:42:45 PM EDT
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So by Cryes website/ customer service I should get a large. I have a lot of closed cell foam that I can make the plates fit better if need be. The SAPI system allows for a very well fit plate, most civilian plate offerings do not. The advice to buy based on chest size, then get a plate to match the carrier only applies if you have access to different sized plates. |
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Posted: 4/3/2018 7:21:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because you already have plates, get the smallest carrier that will fit your plates. The SAPI system allows for a very well fit plate, most civilian plate offerings do not. The advice to buy based on chest size, then get a plate to match the carrier only applies if you have access to different sized plates. |
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Posted: 4/3/2018 7:30:49 PM EDT
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The JPC plate bag has a nylon front and a stretchy material on the back, with a velcro closure on the bottom. They are cut so that an ESAPI plate with kevlar backer is a very tight fit. A standalone SAPI cut plate would also be a very tight fit. A too-small plate would not sit still in the carrier as there is nothing that would hold it in place.
The way Crye sizes things is to determine the carrier size based on your body size, then they assume you are using the correct size SAPI plate. Based on your chest measurement you should be wearing a large JPC with large SAPI plates. If anything, what they are telling you is that your plate is too small. Buying a larger carrier won't fix that, it'll just create another problem in the form of a poor plate to carrier fit. Don't worry too much about the plate size, 10x12 has been the standard outside of military armor for a while. Get a carrier that fits the plate and you'll be happier. |
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Posted: 4/3/2018 10:19:05 PM EDT
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The JPC plate bag has a nylon front and a stretchy material on the back, with a velcro closure on the bottom. They are cut so that an ESAPI plate with kevlar backer is a very tight fit. A standalone SAPI cut plate would also be a very tight fit. A too-small plate would not sit still in the carrier as there is nothing that would hold it in place. The way Crye sizes things is to determine the carrier size based on your body size, then they assume you are using the correct size SAPI plate. Based on your chest measurement you should be wearing a large JPC with large SAPI plates. If anything, what they are telling you is that your plate is too small. Buying a larger carrier won't fix that, it'll just create another problem in the form of a poor plate to carrier fit. Don't worry too much about the plate size, 10x12 has been the standard outside of military armor for a while. Get a carrier that fits the plate and you'll be happier. |
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Posted: 4/4/2018 9:31:03 AM EDT
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The problem is 10x12 plates have no standard for the lengths of the top and sides and angles of the cuts between them. Even though your plate is small, since its a non SAPI and thus non standard cut, it is likely the outter upper 45 degree angles are too far apart and it will force the plate to sit lower in the carrier due to poor fit due to shape which cannot be corrected with foam. I also hope your plate is multicurved and stand alone because the JPC has no shape or padding of its own. Singl e curved plates will not be comfortable and make your back flare out at the bottom unnaturally.
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Posted: 4/4/2018 12:40:08 PM EDT
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The problem is 10x12 plates have no standard for the lengths of the top and sides and angles of the cuts between them. Even though your plate is small, since its a non SAPI and thus non standard cut, it is likely the outter upper 45 degree angles are too far apart and it will force the plate to sit lower in the carrier due to poor fit due to shape which cannot be corrected with foam. I also hope your plate is multicurved and stand alone because the JPC has no shape or padding of its own. Singl e curved plates will not be comfortable and make your back flare out at the bottom unnaturally. ETA: Thinking maybe I should sell the Plates I have and the Eagle RRV PC. Help take some of the sting out of buying everything. Now since Crye says based on my chest size I should get a large, should I just buy a large JPC then get the corresponding large sapi? |
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Posted: 4/7/2018 10:27:53 AM EDT
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Not to beat a dead horse but I’ve been in your shoes. Work issued us some poly plates and a junk carrier. I got a med JPC and the poly plates were too wide at the top. I just ended up getting SAPI’s
The nonstandard cut and angle is what’ll screw you up. I know you’ll just plan to return whatever carrier you get that doesn’t fit. Maybe to save some time and shipping, find a good pic of a SAPI plate and enlarge it to full size, print and hold it up to your 10x12’s. If yours are narrower at the top, you can push em up w some blue Walmart ensolite padding. If too wide, it just ain’t gonna work. |
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Posted: 4/7/2018 3:23:21 PM EDT
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Not to beat a dead horse but I’ve been in your shoes. Work issued us some poly plates and a junk carrier. I got a med JPC and the poly plates were too wide at the top. I just ended up getting SAPI’s The nonstandard cut and angle is what’ll screw you up. I know you’ll just plan to return whatever carrier you get that doesn’t fit. Maybe to save some time and shipping, find a good pic of a SAPI plate and enlarge it to full size, print and hold it up to your 10x12’s. If yours are narrower at the top, you can push em up w some blue Walmart ensolite padding. If too wide, it just ain’t gonna work. Shooters cut  Attached FileSapi  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/7/2018 5:14:30 PM EDT
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One more question, will a medium JPC 2.0 fit a larger chest size then the listed 37-40"? I'm more 42" now but will be growing a bit larger. Or should I just get a large JPC?
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Posted: 4/8/2018 2:16:02 PM EDT
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Hey man sorry about the lousy pics but I had some stuff going on at work this am. For the same reason I didn’t have time to pull the plate out. Also, it’s a 1.0 but I don’t think that matters.
The med SAPI fills out the med JPC at the top perfectly. Getting soft armor backers in is a tight squeeze but pretty easy due to the stretch fabric in the back. I don’t have them in right now since I wear soft armor anyways. The width at the top front is right at 5.5 inches  Attached FileHope that helps! |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 2:57:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hey man sorry about the lousy pics but I had some stuff going on at work this am. For the same reason I didn’t have time to pull the plate out. Also, it’s a 1.0 but I don’t think that matters. The med SAPI fills out the med JPC at the top perfectly. Getting soft armor backers in is a tight squeeze but pretty easy due to the stretch fabric in the back. I don’t have them in right now since I wear soft armor anyways. The width at the top front is right at 5.5 inches https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/241310/79A9BFF1-0DF7-4E1C-9CDF-A729BE1BCB34-508732.JPG Hope that helps! |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 5:26:18 PM EDT
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Just placed an order for a medium JPC 2.0. Will update when I get it in.
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Posted: 4/9/2018 5:07:19 PM EDT
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Got an email from Crye that says ship date is July. That kinda sucks but will give me time to get sapi plates and pouches.
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