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Posted: 1/27/2019 9:20:30 PM EDT
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Hmm, I love the Sinkevich ZT’s. Maybe look at Hinderer’s?
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Posted: 1/27/2019 10:17:41 PM EDT
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I dunno, I used to feel like you did about ZT's change in direction. I have a 0200 and a 0350 and they are well made knives, very true....
That being said, my spyderco endura 4 gets 90% of my pocket time due to size/weight. If I were to get another ZT, it would be one of their more svelte models....and my current annoyance with them is that they've gone to 3-3.5" blades where I really prefer a ~4" blade, but more with a profile like the 0462....but I don't want to pay $250 for it. I want to pay ~$125 for it. But because I can't, I stick with my spyderco and enjoy the large blade in a svelte, utilitarian knife that I've beat the snot out of and it just keeps kicking. The 0200 and 0350 really are iconic ZT, very true (also 0300, 0301)....but when it comes to a useful knife in my experience...the blade shape/profile/height is really outshined by spyderco's designs. |
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Posted: 1/28/2019 12:11:49 AM EDT
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As always, I'll reccomend a TOPS if you want overbuilt.
Check my post about my new TOPS folding knife that is ridiculous. |
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Posted: 1/28/2019 1:22:02 AM EDT
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Hmm, I love the Sinkevich ZT's. Maybe look at Hinderer's? I love my 0450 and 0452. I will agree it's been a while since I've seen a new release that I liked. |
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Posted: 1/28/2019 2:52:58 AM EDT
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Just got my 0200 back from Kershaw being sharpened. Going on 7 years and now it's good as new.
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Posted: 1/28/2019 7:04:18 AM EDT
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As always, I'll reccomend a TOPS if you want overbuilt. Check my post about my new TOPS folding knife that is ridiculous. |
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Posted: 1/29/2019 1:11:45 AM EDT
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I love my 562cf but do agree they have lost their original focus.
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Posted: 1/29/2019 11:42:36 AM EDT
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This. I love my 0450 and 0452. I will agree it's been a while since I've seen a new release that I liked. |
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Posted: 1/29/2019 7:23:29 PM EDT
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I rather enjoy my 450, it's about as perfect sized for what I want it to do. My 470 that I got for a bargin is very nice too and razor sharp.
Above picture is after owning for at least a year of every use. |
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Posted: 1/29/2019 8:08:08 PM EDT
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I love my 562cf but do agree they have lost their original focus. The Hinderers are just as durable as the 300 series knives if not more as they feature better steels and aren't reliant on the speed safe The rest is just adapting to market trends. Not everyone wants the same thing and they are good at keeping up with what's going on |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 12:39:17 PM EDT
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I couldn't ask my new to me 470 to be an any better slicer.
The picture makes it seem to be quite bit larger compared to the 450 but is really just an illusion. |
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Posted: 2/6/2019 1:23:17 PM EDT
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I disagree. The Hinderers are just as durable as the 300 series knives if not more as they feature better steels and aren't reliant on the speed safe The rest is just adapting to market trends. Not everyone wants the same thing and they are good at keeping up with what's going on Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I love my 562cf but do agree they have lost their original focus. The Hinderers are just as durable as the 300 series knives if not more as they feature better steels and aren't reliant on the speed safe The rest is just adapting to market trends. Not everyone wants the same thing and they are good at keeping up with what's going on |
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Posted: 2/6/2019 1:25:52 PM EDT
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I couldn't ask my new to me 470 to be an any better slicer. https://i.imgur.com/BTwKiMA.jpg The picture makes it seem to be quite bit larger compared to the 450 but is really just an illusion.  *disclaimer: I don't eat A1 on meat. I love it on potatoes |
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Posted: 2/6/2019 1:26:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, it’s a esthetics/design thing for me. I don’t care for the looks of many of the newer models. The 3 series knives look like lumpy potatoes. |
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Posted: 2/6/2019 2:02:03 PM EDT
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562CF is one of my favs, but they don’t offer much I’m interested in anymore. Which is a shame as they are 30 mins away
My Spyderco Cali CF gets 95% of my carry time |
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Posted: 2/6/2019 2:09:48 PM EDT
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562CF is one of my favs, but they don’t offer much I’m interested in anymore. Which is a shame as they are 30 mins away My Spyderco Cali CF gets 95% of my carry time Budget variant in the 566 is great although assisted (which is why mine is gone. Also featured premium steels The 560/1 are great full sized work horse knives in solid steels but look great. The 562 is a knock out. I like it almost as much as my actual Hinderer. It's thinner, flips better and has a great grind out of the box. |
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Posted: 2/7/2019 7:24:00 AM EDT
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Ahh. Exact opposite for me. The 3 series knives look like lumpy potatoes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Well, it’s a esthetics/design thing for me. I don’t care for the looks of many of the newer models. The 3 series knives look like lumpy potatoes. 
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Posted: 2/7/2019 7:29:32 AM EDT
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Just got my 0200 back from Kershaw being sharpened. Going on 7 years and now it's good as new. I don't think they catalog anything like it. Or didn't when I last looked. |
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Posted: 2/7/2019 11:25:41 AM EDT
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That was the one knife in their lineup I was interested in and they dropped it. I don't think they catalog anything like it. Or didn't when I last looked. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just got my 0200 back from Kershaw being sharpened. Going on 7 years and now it's good as new. I don't think they catalog anything like it. Or didn't when I last looked. The newer ones are just like refined, better quality versions of the $8 knife table at gun shows. Weird blade shapes, goofy grip panels, except the steel is great quality. They have deviated from what they set out to be. I really want a new, rugged knife that is built like a brick shit-house. Thick-spine, a little weight, durable and meant for taking abuse. I have branched out and moved onto other companies at this point. On a related note--Cabelas is closing out the Benchmade Adamas (tan handle with serrated blade) for $139. I did pick one of those up. |
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Posted: 2/7/2019 1:27:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's my point--their primary focus are "designer" looking knives now. There are a few semi-decent, still practical, but they launched ZT as a hard-use knife company. The newer ones are just like refined, better quality versions of the $8 knife table at gun shows. Weird blade shapes, goofy grip panels, except the steel is great quality. They have deviated from what they set out to be. I really want a new, rugged knife that is built like a brick shit-house. Thick-spine, a little weight, durable and meant for taking abuse. I have branched out and moved onto other companies at this point. On a related note--Cabelas is closing out the Benchmade Adamas (tan handle with serrated blade) for $139. I did pick one of those up. |
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Posted: 2/7/2019 8:32:27 PM EDT
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I had a 0200. Very well built knife. But like everyone else said, to me everything they have now looks like mall ninja crap. I’m sure they go good with skinny jeans and man buns though.
Budget I prefer benchmade. My favorite folders are the 3 offered by Grayman knives. Their most recent one is amazing in person. I know what most think of Medford knives. The praetorian especially. But I never handled one until recently. It was the production scout version. Msrp$425. I picked it up and fell in love with it!!! I only paid $300 out the door and think it’s worth every penny. |
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Posted: 2/7/2019 8:43:50 PM EDT
[#22]
I like it.
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Posted: 2/7/2019 11:17:01 PM EDT
[#23]
I have a TAD Gear 300 which is my EDC
knife. I love the size & heft. I have lots of other knives including a ZT350. The only time I don't have the 300 in my pocket is when I'm in the woods & don't want to risk losing it. Edit to add: I bought this at a LGS in the used section for $155. It was LNIB.  
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Posted: 2/9/2019 4:51:10 PM EDT
[#24]
ZT guys, should I pick up a like new 562 with the Elmax for $80.
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Posted: 2/9/2019 6:07:29 PM EDT
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ZT guys, should I pick up a like new 562 with the Elmax for $80. 
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Posted: 2/9/2019 6:27:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
ZT guys, should I pick up a like new 562 with the Elmax for $80. |
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Posted: 2/9/2019 11:20:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes! So long as it isn't a fake. I was researching how to spot a fake and found a youtube video of a guy opening a china knife with the same serial number as the I was interested in 
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Posted: 2/10/2019 9:04:28 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryYes it is nice balance between large and small, feels good in the hand and slices really well. If I had to point out one improvement it would be the nub for the flipper, seems if it were just a 1/16th larger it would deploy a bit faster.
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Posted: 2/10/2019 6:02:38 PM EDT
[#29]
I have the 560, 562CF, 452CF.
I like them all, the 562 probably the best, the 452 feels a little to steak knifish to me. I bet I would like the 462 better. I always wanted a 0200 and a 0100. I’d take a 0750 for the right price as well. |
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Posted: 2/10/2019 11:57:29 PM EDT
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I still have and love my 0350. KAI died to me when they left Ken Onion out in the cold though. Between switching focus to rainbow boutique premium knives like the one above, Kershaw offering more crap knives than Frost Cutlery, and their whiney industry rep on blade forums years ago, I don't foresee me buying them again.
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Posted: 2/11/2019 11:43:05 AM EDT
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I still have and love my 0350. KAI died to me when they left Ken Onion out in the cold though. Between switching focus to rainbow boutique premium knives like the one above, Kershaw offering more crap knives than Frost Cutlery, and their whiney industry rep on blade forums years ago, I don't foresee me buying them again. It is however a pretty awesome carry knife. |
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Posted: 2/11/2019 11:44:09 AM EDT
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Thank you! You just saved me $80 I was researching how to spot a fake and found a youtube video of a guy opening a china knife with the same serial number as the I was interested in |
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Posted: 2/11/2019 11:52:20 AM EDT
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I too enjoy the 470. Hell of a compact carry https://i.imgur.com/ynpwznE.jpg *disclaimer: I don't eat A1 on meat. I love it on potatoes Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I couldn't ask my new to me 470 to be an any better slicer. https://i.imgur.com/BTwKiMA.jpg The picture makes it seem to be quite bit larger compared to the 450 but is really just an illusion. https://i.imgur.com/ynpwznE.jpg *disclaimer: I don't eat A1 on meat. I love it on potatoes I realize it’s the opposite, but still..... Fwiw, A1 is delicious on meat. 
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Posted: 2/11/2019 12:30:02 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That looks Exactly like a Truck Stop display case knife. I realize it’s the opposite, but still..... Fwiw, A1 is delicious on meat. |
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Posted: 2/12/2019 1:56:59 PM EDT
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For you ZT fans SMKW is having a heck of a closeout sale right now. But they appear to be going fast. I scored a limited 0452wcf for 180$
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Posted: 2/12/2019 5:08:25 PM EDT
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For you ZT fans SMKW is having a heck of a closeout sale right now. But they appear to be going fast. I scored a limited 0452wcf for 180$ |
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Posted: 2/12/2019 6:31:10 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, it’s a esthetics/design thing for me. I don’t care for the looks of many of the newer models. |
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Posted: 2/12/2019 10:11:53 PM EDT
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I like my 350TS but the new designs look like they go along with embroidered jeans and beard product. Pass. |
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Posted: 2/12/2019 11:27:06 PM EDT
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They also are lighter, carry much better and cut longer but those aren't important traits Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I like my 350TS but the new designs look like they go along with embroidered jeans and beard product. Pass. |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 7:04:50 AM EDT
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I got to say that I'm loving the 562. It feels good in my hand, well ballanced and flips awesome. It's a great carry knife for work and everyday use, but could see wanting something a tad lighter/smaller for church clothes.
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Posted: 2/23/2019 10:16:23 AM EDT
[#41]
At least they aren't fucking over the gun community like BM....
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Posted: 2/23/2019 12:20:50 PM EDT
[#42]
I have 7 ZT knives and I tend to agree. I haven't been interested in any of their new stuff. Too stylish for my tastes.
The 0560 is a fantastic and beautiful knife I can't believe they got rid of it. Good thing I have 2 
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Posted: 2/23/2019 1:27:31 PM EDT
[#43]
I have a 0350TS and love it. If they would come out with a 0350 with the tan coated blade like the 0095 I would be all over it.
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Posted: 2/25/2019 12:05:34 AM EDT
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It doesn't get any more "overbuilt" than a ZT 0920.
 Attached FileLook how thick this blade is. Yet it also has enough taper and height to be surprisingly thin by the time you get to the edge. |
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Posted: 2/27/2019 12:18:06 PM EDT
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I carry an 0700, it's discontinued and I don't get why they haven't made anything similar since.
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Posted: 2/27/2019 2:38:44 PM EDT
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I have 7 ZT knives and I tend to agree. I haven't been interested in any of their new stuff. Too stylish for my tastes. The 0560 is a fantastic and beautiful knife I can't believe they got rid of it. Good thing I have 2 |
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Posted: 2/27/2019 10:18:39 PM EDT
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It doesn't get any more "overbuilt" than a ZT 0920. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/453175/920_Thickness_jpg-858702.JPG Look how thick this blade is. Yet it also has enough taper and height to be surprisingly thin by the time you get to the edge. Thinking of getting a second one. 
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Posted: 2/27/2019 11:08:10 PM EDT
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I’ve had a few ZT knives and they are well made. The problem I had was early on they were not good slicers.
That obviously got way better but you guys are right in that they are getting way to artsy. I admit I’m more into a Classic Sebenza or a Garath Bull type design. I have to imagine is a designer it has to be rough to separate yourself from the others. That in Itself is part of the problem. |
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Posted: 2/28/2019 1:44:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agree Thinking of getting a second one.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/50175/DF1DD3D8-F155-4506-8E9C-95DAEA444FE6_jpeg-860447.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/50175/BE57D38A-3C57-4586-B163-55F3DDD95ED2_jpeg-860451.JPG |
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Posted: 3/18/2019 11:47:02 PM EDT
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I've got a few Zero Tolerance knives.
566, 450, 452, 350, 770, 562, 470... I've been EDC'ing my 450CF for over a year and it's my favorite ZT. The 470 I recently picked up has a weaker detent then I like & the pocket clip always digs into my middle finger when I open it. Hopefully ZT will be able to "fix" the detent and a deep carry pocket clip should resolve the other issue. |
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