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Posted: 12/27/2018 6:22:02 PM EDT
Thinking .22 LR as is customary, but I’m toying with the idea of starting my kid out on an actual centerfire round that I can reload.

What other .22 or .17 caliber rounds are gtg on varmints and tame enough for a little kid to learn fundamentals before he’s big enough for .223 or a better round?
Link Posted: 12/27/2018 6:31:25 PM EDT
[#1]
Are you more concerned with recoil or just noise/blast? A suppressed .223 should be very pleasant both in recoil and noise, especially a bolt gun, and much more cost effective to reload than an oddball cartridge.
Link Posted: 12/27/2018 6:40:17 PM EDT
[#2]
I Spend most Sunday afternoons as an RSO at the local range, and there are a father and son that shoot there frequently.  The son is 8 years old and shoots a Thompson Center Compass chambered for .270 Winchester.  It will rock that little kid backwards when he pulls the trigger but he jumps right back on it and is ready to shoot again.  He's damn good to, holds about a 4" pattern at 100 yards.  I absolutely LOVE to watch him shoot ;)
Link Posted: 12/27/2018 7:39:22 PM EDT
[#3]
223 for sure
Link Posted: 12/27/2018 9:02:19 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/27/2018 9:03:40 PM EDT
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Are you more concerned with recoil or just noise/blast? A suppressed .223 should be very pleasant both in recoil and noise, especially a bolt gun, and much more cost effective to reload than an oddball cartridge.
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handling noise w ear pro isn’t a problem.

More concerned with the heft of the gun itself combined with recoil. I’m thinking teach him mechanics on something small and then move up to my AR and or 6.5 bolt gun.

.22LR is still pretty cheap and I can get a marlin or Ruger for not much at all
Link Posted: 12/27/2018 9:05:11 PM EDT
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This. Like a Scorpion Evo.
Link Posted: 12/27/2018 9:07:24 PM EDT
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growing up I started with 22, then went to 20 gauge shotgun, then went to 30-30.

if you wanted to skip 22 then I agree with poster above 9mm carbine or .223

you can get a hi point carbine under $300.  My daughter just shot my Extar EP9 for the first time this week

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Link Posted: 12/27/2018 9:09:18 PM EDT
[#8]
hornet
Link Posted: 12/27/2018 10:12:48 PM EDT
[#9]
Super light AR15 in 556. If you build just build it but if you don't then look around and buy a light weight one from a reputable manufacturer.
Link Posted: 12/27/2018 11:47:16 PM EDT
[#10]
If you reload you can find loading data for 308 or 30-06 that will be as light as say 30 carbine in recoil then increase power as youngster tolerates. A bolt action rifle is most applicable in such a role
Link Posted: 12/28/2018 9:31:02 AM EDT
[#11]
My son jumped from .22LR to a 30 carbine in an M1 carbine.  We were at the range the other day and my son brought his 18-year old petite girlfriend who's never fired a gun in here life.  She didn't care for any of the .22LRs and worked here way up to shooting a mag through my POF Revolution in .308.  She loved the MPX and was mad she didn't get to shoot the 12ga KSG (which is freaking brutal for a 12ga!).  Color me impressed.

ROCK6
Link Posted: 12/28/2018 10:08:04 AM EDT
[#12]
why skip 22? you can buy a rifle for 200 bucks, and shoot it all day for essentially free. with a can it's damn near silent with no recoil, so you can still coach and stuff without yelling through headphones. If you hate it or outgrow it, you can sell the rifle for 200 bucks.

bring something with more pop, sure, but my suppressed 22s are often the favorite of a whole line of shooters with thousands of dollars in gear on table.
Link Posted: 12/28/2018 5:12:19 PM EDT
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If the 223 is out I would go with the 17 Hornet.
Link Posted: 12/30/2018 5:16:36 PM EDT
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How little is the child? 6 years old? Then .22 is probably appropriate. 8 or up? 5.56 in an AR15 would be fine. The light weight and low recoil of an AR15 rifle in 5.56 is tame enough for a child to handle. A .308 rifle? That would be more appropriate for a 16 year old. Why waste your time on .22? Unless you plan on only using it to hunt squirrels, rabbits, or other small rodents, there's not much use for .22.
Link Posted: 1/8/2019 1:25:22 AM EDT
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I'd go with a .223 bolt gun

look at a Ruger American Ranch, CZ 527 Carbine, it Weatherby Vanguard/ Howa 1500

All of these now have twists of 1:9 and in the of the Ruger 1:8 so they'll take heavier ammo for things besides varmints/coyotes
Link Posted: 1/8/2019 1:33:42 AM EDT
[#16]
.223 in either an AR or bolt gun platform. Relatively cheap to buy factory loads in bulk, and even cheaper to reload. An effective brake or silencer will tame recoil, and if reloading you can do a reduced charge as well.

I'd use a .223 Wylde chamber on the AR platform, safely handles .223 Rem. and 5.56 NATO
Link Posted: 1/8/2019 3:41:20 AM EDT
[#17]
7mmSTW...
Just kidding! I started off on 22lr and 22mag as little kid.
Had a 17 Remington too before my model 7 youth in 243.
22mag is a favorite of mine when it come to varmits 200 yards and in. Easy for a kid to shoot well too.
Link Posted: 1/8/2019 10:56:11 AM EDT
[#18]
I went from 556 to 6.5 Grendel with my 9 year old. He shot at a nice Doe this year with the 6.5. looking at buying him a ,Mossberg Patriot youth in 7-08 so he can have his "own' rifle to shoot, so he will be more comfortable.
Link Posted: 1/8/2019 11:10:11 AM EDT
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.22 Hornet would be my choice.
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