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Posted: 5/18/2020 11:44:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/18/2020 11:45:12 AM EDT by amediocreshooter]
Curious if the amount of vibration on a 5.56mm M16 is detrimental to a filmed PVS-14. The PVS14 is mounted in a TNVC twist mount behind a T2 and has been shot semi auto for many years with no issues.
Link Posted: 5/18/2020 11:46:28 AM EDT
Yeah, don't do that. The PVS-14 is not a recoil-protected housing like dedicated clip on devices. The tube is essentially hard-mounted to the weapon and subjected to the full force of the recoil. This is a bad idea even on semi-auto rifles and a REALLY bad idea on a machine gun.
Link Posted: 5/18/2020 12:00:50 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/18/2020 1:01:00 PM EDT
I mounted PAQ 4 lasers via rail mounts to my  M2 .50s in Iraq. Then used the PVS14s on the helmut mount.
Link Posted: 5/19/2020 11:52:50 AM EDT
How about the unfilmed WP PVS14's?
Link Posted: 5/19/2020 11:59:24 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/19/2020 12:44:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/19/2020 12:58:19 PM EDT by ar556223]
how about 300 blk supers?

how about 300 blk subs?

pretty heavy rifle with laser, light and snd6 out front...still a "no", i am guessing.

(TNVC pinnacle night enforcer)
Link Posted: 5/19/2020 1:14:50 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/20/2020 10:56:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/20/2020 8:22:36 PM EDT by edwin907]
Years and years ago Vic told me I was "crazy" putting my ITT pvs-14 on an AK 7.62X39.
Link Posted: 5/20/2020 11:22:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/20/2020 11:27:06 AM EDT by amediocreshooter]
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Originally Posted By TNVC_Augee:


Still not recommended. 

Guys, here's what it gets down to: 

The PVS-14 does not have any recoil or shock mitigati­on built into it the way a weapon-mounted optic does. 

The fact that it's generally capable­ of surviving being mounted to a 5.56/.223 is more a testament to how mild the recoi­l is for those weapons, but even mounted on s­uch a weapon, we do not recommend doing so to­o much or too often, as eventually the device­ will have simply had enough. 

The fact of the matter is that a wea­pon with a weapon-mounted PVS-14 generally tends not to be a high round cou­nt weapon under most circumstances, because p­eople are typically using weapons in this man­ner in a more static position, coyote/hog hunting, etc.

The TNVC TM-14 mount is, in some ways a "legacy" accessor­y.  

TNVC and then-Laser Devices (LDI, now Steiner eOptics) part­nered back in 2011 to bring the first Class I­ IR lasers to the commercial market for wide ­sales and distribution, prior to that, firing­ solutions for NV were few and far between, w­ith your choices often being gray market IR l­asers or weapon mounting of a PVS-14. 

The TM-14 was developed as a better option than the ­USGI Weapon Mount that could also double as a­ mount for the Aimpoint 3x Magnifier, which a­gain, at the time was really the only decent ­RDS magnifier available on the market. 

The TM-14 is still sold and still in production, as ­it has become a fairly popular product, howev­er, unlike ten years ago, there are many more­ options for aiming with NV that are less ris­ky and more practical in almost every way tha­n weapon mounting a PVS-14. 

Just because you can doesn't mean yo­u should. 

And even though you can, I wouldn't ­do it much. 

If you have access to a machine gun,­ transferable or not, I've got to believe tha­t you have the means to at least get a hold o­f a lower-cost IR laser at least. 

~Augee

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Thanks for the post.

You’re right. I have a few high quality IR lasers. Cost isn’t the problem here. It’s just already having the stuff to weapon mount a 14.

Nearly every AR I’ve owned with a T1 since I put the TM14 on my PVS14 almost a decade ago has had an Aimpoint twist mount base on it because I’ve always enjoyed the “accuracy” it provided in a static shooting position.

An IR laser is great but I know my T1 offset much more than my IR laser offset. This is just a function of training. I shoot 90% more often during the day than I do at night. So while I’ve never run drills or anything dynamic with the 14 weapon mounted, it works amazingly well when seated in a tree stand looking for little miss piggy.

The reason for the OP is that I was trying to find a way to shoot a machine gun from the prone off a bipod under NODs. An IR laser isn’t ideal in that situation. It definitely works, but I felt weapon mounted NV might be better because the large amount of muzzle flash and smoke generated by full auto fire obscures/blooms the laser/illuminator at the muzzle. Also, the gun is kind of “in the way” when using a head mounted NOD in the prone.

Point taken. I’ll have to Quit being cheap and finally buy a clip on.
Link Posted: 5/21/2020 6:48:25 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/21/2020 9:31:53 PM EDT
How about mounted to a rimfire rifle? Acceptable or still not a good idea?
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