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Originally Posted By Hott_Seeds: you fellas that are running Esstac Kywis for pistol/AR, how are you attaching it to your molle belts? I havent gotten my molle belt in yet, but i ran them with the WTFix strips on a EDC gun belt. the mag carrier was kind of loose on my belt. is there something a little more rigid? i dont want any slop between the belt and the mag carriers. View Quote Malice clips, thick and chonky but for the mini pals webbing on those belts offers more rigidity. |
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: WTF straps are for Molle, but you'd probably be better served by these on a belt. https://www.esstac.com/product-page/1-75-kywi-belt-loops https://static.wixstatic.com/media/26fc5f_1f1d0c39c0834a22828e408b95bf8c7f~mv2_d_5184_3456_s_4_2.jpg/v1/fill/w_480,h_320,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/26fc5f_1f1d0c39c0834a22828e408b95bf8c7f~mv2_d_5184_3456_s_4_2.webp View Quote |
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Fantastic. I have the Ronin TF Belt and use the MALICE. I have a roll of the one wrap. I am definitely going to give this a go.
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Originally Posted By Medicin3Man: Fantastic. I have the Ronin TF Belt and use the MALICE. I have a roll of the one wrap. I am definitely going to give this a go. View Quote Thanks. Like I said, it was suggested in here multiple times but just never explained. I think even Esstac themselves recommended this method. I swapped to the Eagle Operators belt that has Molle on it. I still don't even bother with the molle, and still use this method on the molle belt. They are quick and easy to place exactly where you want. Want to swap the 5.56 for a single 7.62? Easy, no pain in the ass malice clips and threading through molle. Also nice since you are not tied to the molle spacing. I have mine setup on a "half way" point over the molle on the belt and like them there. |
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I use the plastic esstac keepers, but I think I am going to go to that velcro, thats the ticket I think.
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New setup, haven’t had a chance to get it out to the range yet, just some dry fire practice, but so far so good.
Primary purpose is range, 2-gun matches, bump in the night. Condor LCS Cobra belt (yes, Condor. Surprisingly nice and only $70!) Esstac Kywi pistol 3x (on the fence 3 vs 2) Esstac Kywi shorty rifle x2 Maxpedition rolly-polly dump pouch Safariland mid-drop Kydex holster (testing out a few different holsters including ALS, new QLS) Attached File |
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It was time for a new belt, so I figured I’d try the esstac 1.75” Now just have to get everything swapped over |
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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By stoner01: Originally Posted By JR12Valve: Congrats on the belt! I would highly recommend staging the cat with the strap back on the side of the windlass clip. Not something you want to have to manipulate should the need arise for a tq. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/hes_right_you_know-328.jpg Yep. Done. |
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Originally Posted By 5L33P3R: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/478727/DDCBEA09-0266-489D-9CD0-798155122D76_jpe-1469879.JPG It was time for a new belt, so I figured I’d try the esstac 1.75” Now just have to get everything swapped over View Quote I really liked my Esstac belt. Everything you need and nothing you don't. The kydex strip in the middle is really nice to make it super stiff. Enjoy man. |
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Originally Posted By JSchell1309: I know it was recommended in here before, but I never did see a breakdown on exactly how best to use it.. but here it goes. Velcro One-Wrap is an excellent method to mount Kywi pouches into 2 piece velcro gun belts. [SNIP] These are pretty damn secure as is on the outer belt. Once you place the whole outer belt on the inner and sandwich all the velcro, it is incredibly strong. You can shake the shit out of them, they aren't going anywhere. I did this method with the double pistol gap, single 5.56, and the STOMP med pouch as well. Very happy with how this method works. I like it even more since the one wrap doesn't interrupt the outer belt to inner belt interface. There is no discontinuous amount of velcro, it all sticks together and holds even stronger. View Quote I do this for all my pouches, but use the 1" width One-Wrap instead. Works great. |
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Originally Posted By jerz_subbie: New setup, haven’t had a chance to get it out to the range yet, just some dry fire practice, but so far so good. Primary purpose is range, 2-gun matches, bump in the night. Condor LCS Cobra belt (yes, Condor. Surprisingly nice and only $70!) Esstac Kywi pistol 3x (on the fence 3 vs 2) Esstac Kywi shorty rifle x2 Maxpedition rolly-polly dump pouch Safariland mid-drop Kydex holster (testing out a few different holsters including ALS, new QLS) https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/113818/7A85DC17-B2B1-40ED-AAF4-BB9CFB4ABD2F_jpe-1468811.JPG View Quote I like it. I did the same going with that Condor belt, but I also went with all Condor for the mag holders, IFAK and light holster (Safariland holster). Building out belts is new to me, so I wanted to experiment with less expensive stuff first (Condor seems to have a decent rep in that segment) to see what I like, how I want it set up, etc. Once I get my "system" down, Ill upgrade based on preferences and then put the Condor set up to either back up duty, or vehicle duty |
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I’m glad to see I’m not the only one with a condor belt, I ordered this one a few days ago and I’ll start getting my mag holders soon. Blue force gear looks like the place for those.
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Originally Posted By JSchell1309: I know it was recommended in here before, but I never did see a breakdown on exactly how best to use it.. but here it goes. Velcro One-Wrap is an excellent method to mount Kywi pouches into 2 piece velcro gun belts. This will be an image heavy post. Sorry for that. Here is the one wrap I bought off amazon. It's 1.5" wide by 30 ft long. Plenty for house projects too. https://i.imgur.com/kIiOAGQ.jpg In order to fit through they kywi webbing on the back, you will need to cut the wrap down from 1.5" to roughly 1.1" to 1.2" for a nice snug fit. Then you can cut them to about 6.5" long and I cut the corners off to give them a decent chamfer to help feed through the loops. I then stick a small ruler or popsicle stick through the webbing to help feed the wrap through it. Pay attention to which direction you want the hook and loop facing. Most gun belts with the hook on the outer belt so you will want to thread these through the Kywis with the loop facing outwards. (Eagle Operator belt is opposite of this). https://i.imgur.com/RpLYCha.jpg https://i.imgur.com/MGWc02P.jpg Here is what they look like before they go on the belt. Pretty simple. https://i.imgur.com/buZ7Fgs.jpg Place the pouch where you want it on the belt. I then take the bottom wrap tabs and fold them up and press the velcro together with the belt. I also like to leave them a little long to tuck the top of this flap behind the pouch. https://i.imgur.com/KJnoPSH.jpg https://i.imgur.com/j0oROeJ.jpg Then pull the top tight and fold over the bottom wrap. I pull a lot of tension on this top tab as I fold it down and press the velcro together. This makes them very tight on the belt. https://i.imgur.com/4496lvv.jpg https://i.imgur.com/bfzXod7.jpg That's it. These are pretty damn secure as is on the outer belt. Once you place the whole outer belt on the inner and sandwich all the velcro, it is incredibly strong. You can shake the shit out of them, they aren't going anywhere. I did this method with the double pistol gap, single 5.56, and the STOMP med pouch as well. Very happy with how this method works. I like it even more since the one wrap doesn't interrupt the outer belt to inner belt interface. There is no discontinuous amount of velcro, it all sticks together and holds even stronger. View Quote 1. Very informative post. Great idea on mounting those. 2. You really hate fingernails, huh? Lol. |
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: WTF straps are for Molle, but you'd probably be better served by these on a belt. https://www.esstac.com/product-page/1-75-kywi-belt-loops https://static.wixstatic.com/media/26fc5f_1f1d0c39c0834a22828e408b95bf8c7f~mv2_d_5184_3456_s_4_2.jpg/v1/fill/w_480,h_320,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/26fc5f_1f1d0c39c0834a22828e408b95bf8c7f~mv2_d_5184_3456_s_4_2.webp View Quote +1 |
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Originally Posted By AIWB: 1. Very informative post. Great idea on mounting those. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes @AIWB Thanks man, I had all the pictures, it was just a few minutes to type it all out. Originally Posted By AIWB: 2. You really hate fingernails, huh? Lol. Fucking hell haha. Yeaaaah, it's a bad nervous tick I am trying to kick the habit of. I bite my fingernails subconsciously and don't realize it until they are short. I noticed my toddler started doing it so I am doing my best to break the habit so I don't transfer it to him. |
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Esstac kywi mag pouches TRex dump pouch, CAT TQ holder, thigh strap DME custom holster UBL and QLS Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Campy6169: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/352752/Battle_Belt-1436578.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By KennyW1983: I’m glad to see I’m not the only one with a condor belt, I ordered this one a few days ago and I’ll start getting my mag holders soon. Blue force gear looks like the place for those. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/298946/5A313E19-4B2A-4238-BF66-0D8C8FBC25BD_png-1470697.JPG View Quote I've set up 2 of the condor lcs belts as loaners for matches and students in classes. For the price I didnt mind hacking the one up to make it fit a child size waist. |
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Esstac 1.75" belt Esstac Kywi pouches 1x 556,1x (556 + 2x 9mm) Esstac Med pouch Safariland holster BTW I'm retarded and the med pouch has a belt pass-through I missed when taking this picture. So those Kywi belt loops aren't necessary on the med pouch. View Quote What does the back side of your esstac kywi pouches look like? How do they attach to the belt? They dont have pictures of the backsides of their products online. I have a belt but im still lost. |
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Originally Posted By KennyW1983: What does the back side of your esstac kywi pouches look like? How do they attach to the belt? They dont have pictures of the backsides of their products online. I have a belt but im still lost. View Quote I don't like you anymore, you made me go look for myself to confirm andy website is turible on a phone Click on a few different pouches and you'll find pics of the back. Dbl gap and single short have back pics. Once you've seen one you have seen them all! They all have pals webbing on the rear and require a mounting system for your intended application. Attaching to a belt? What belt? Pals/molle belt? You will need a pals strap like malice clips or WTF straps. Regular type belt? One wrap velcro or our belt loops, malice clips also work here but a looser fit. |
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Originally Posted By esstac-: I don't like you anymore, you made me go look for myself to confirm andy website is turible on a phone Click on a few different pouches and you'll find pics of the back. Dbl gap and single short have back pics. Once you've seen one you have seen them all! They all have pals webbing on the rear and require a mounting system for your intended application. Attaching to a belt? What belt? Pals/molle belt? You will need a pals strap like malice clips or WTF straps. Regular type belt? One wrap velcro or our belt loops, malice clips also work here but a looser fit. View Quote Would you look at that, they are right here in the thread. I have the Condor cobra belt a few posts up. I guess it has the molle system. Ill look around some more for a back view, thanks. |
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Since I apparently can't get any of the Instagram commandos to answer my question, I'll ask it here. Probably get better advice anyways....
What is the best belt option for a ridiculously skinny guy? We're talking 30"-32" waist line. |
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Originally Posted By Seiran: Since I apparently can't get any of the Instagram commandos to answer my question, I'll ask it here. Probably get better advice anyways.... What is the best belt option for a ridiculously skinny guy? We're talking 30"-32" waist line. View Quote I'm sure a bunch of stuff works. I'm the same waist size and Esstac works great for me. |
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I am far from an expert in this area, but on the inside of my KYWI belt loops I use a small piece of self-adhesive velcro so that when sandwiched against the inner belt there is no movement. I have not run a long way with both belts on, but did complete a class recently without anything shifting about
This was undoubtedly "borrowed" from earlier in the thread, say the last 20 pages or so |
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Originally Posted By Seiran: Since I apparently can't get any of the Instagram commandos to answer my question, I'll ask it here. Probably get better advice anyways.... What is the best belt option for a ridiculously skinny guy? We're talking 30"-32" waist line. View Quote I'm smaller than you, see my post above. I would definitely recommend a minimal belt setup. That kit works perfect for me. SOE makes their belts starting at 26" all the way up to like 50"... I run the 1.75" D Ring Cobra belt, lined with loop and the Snake Eater Tactical Hypalon liner belt. The Hypalon is super thin but they use milspec velcro, so everything stays in place. |
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Originally Posted By ttac0: I'm smaller than you, see my post above. I would definitely recommend a minimal belt setup. That kit works perfect for me. SOE makes their belts starting at 26" all the way up to like 50"... I run the 1.75" D Ring Cobra belt, lined with loop and the Snake Eater Tactical Hypalon liner belt. The Hypalon is super thin but they use milspec velcro, so everything stays in place. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ttac0: Originally Posted By Seiran: Since I apparently can't get any of the Instagram commandos to answer my question, I'll ask it here. Probably get better advice anyways.... What is the best belt option for a ridiculously skinny guy? We're talking 30"-32" waist line. I'm smaller than you, see my post above. I would definitely recommend a minimal belt setup. That kit works perfect for me. SOE makes their belts starting at 26" all the way up to like 50"... I run the 1.75" D Ring Cobra belt, lined with loop and the Snake Eater Tactical Hypalon liner belt. The Hypalon is super thin but they use milspec velcro, so everything stays in place. My setup is almost identical. Haven't gotten the True North, but it's on my list. Got My ESSTACs today so Ill be updating that later. To @Seiran 's point, I have a HTC 1.75 belt with their inner belt. Im a 33' waist. Definitely go the minimalist route. |
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Originally Posted By stoner01: My setup is almost identical. Haven't gotten the True North, but it's on my list. Got My ESSTACs today so Ill be updating that later. To @Seiran 's point, I have a HTC 1.75 belt with their inner belt. Im a 33' waist. Definitely go the minimalist route. View Quote True North MHA is a game changer. Beats the UBL by a long shot. So much more adjustability and so much more comfortable. |
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I wanted a small rig that's going to hold 2 pistol and 1 carbine mag plus a holster and small med kit, my esstac belt should be here soon.
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Originally Posted By King_Mud: I wanted a small rig that's going to hold 2 pistol and 1 carbine mag plus a holster and small med kit, my esstac belt should be here soon. View Quote Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Seiran: Since I apparently can't get any of the Instagram commandos to answer my question, I'll ask it here. Probably get better advice anyways.... What is the best belt option for a ridiculously skinny guy? We're talking 30"-32" waist line. View Quote the crye mrb is nice as it can be used like 3 different ways , my favorite belt |
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Esstac belt, Esstac pistol mag pouch, HSGI rifle tacos, DSG holster, unknown pouch for mini ifak. I’m not sold on this style holster for this setup. I’ll be replacing it with an ALS. Mini ifak has a TQ, gauze, cravat and gloves. Attached File Attached File I’m using one wrap that I had laying around and malice clips with sticky back Velcro. One piece on the back of the clip, one in the inside. The white Velcro is what I had, but is definitely not tactical. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Vaquero: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/323/6A5F3B3E-0C43-4466-A4EC-B2AA811AB247_jpe-1486125.JPG Esstac belt, Esstac pistol mag pouch, HSGI rifle tacos, DSG holster, unknown pouch for mini ifak. I'm not sold on this style holster for this setup. I'll be replacing it with an ALS. Mini ifak has a TQ, gauze, cravat and gloves. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/323/14BDDD6D-7FA0-45E9-9F77-CC60CD9A0D25_jpe-1486127.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/323/3AD7C123-8DED-44C0-BC3A-1E39CF441B6C_jpe-1486128.JPG I'm using one wrap that I had laying around and malice clips with sticky back Velcro. One piece on the back of the clip, one in the inside. The white Velcro is what I had, but is definitely not tactical. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/323/4CE193D9-ABBA-4A5A-B492-9F04E0D095D1_jpe-1486133.JPG View Quote (come on blue alpha...) |
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Originally Posted By slappomatt: Have you seen the esstac molle clips? That's what I'm running but then I don't have a inner belt yet. (come on blue alpha...) View Quote I’ve seen them, and they look great, but that’s $40 in attachments alone for that belt. I’m a well known poor, so I just used what I had lying around. |
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Trying to find a smaller IFAK (Or at least on that can be mounted horizontally) and will probably ditch the black “boo-boo” kit and just keep it in my pants pocket. T |
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Decided to do a video of my 1st line belt
Minimal 1st Line / Battle Belt / Warbelt Setup And contents of the IFAK, ignore the end where I mentioned I have the Coban wrapped around a pack of NAR compressed gauze. That has chaged. I'm now running a second IFAK in the drop pouch on my plate carrier with gauze and another Eleven10 4" flat pack trauma bandage. First Line/belt-mounted IFAK Rundown |
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anyone have a recent timeline on BAG belts? I ordered a dual belt setup about 6.5 weeks ago. no word yet.
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Originally Posted By JSchell1309: Found another great use for One Wrap and an inexpensive HK hook. Easy to make, low profile glove clip. https://i.imgur.com/ox2YuOP.jpg https://i.imgur.com/K8h4old.jpg https://i.imgur.com/UaWGAJI.jpg https://i.imgur.com/5hvPOBC.jpg https://i.imgur.com/zgCgrpl.jpg View Quote I'm glad I got the 30 foot roll of onewrap.... |
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SSgt Jason A Decker. 11/6/09
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Originally Posted By stoner01: I'm glad I got the 30 foot roll of onewrap.... View Quote haha, you can see my photos above from the Kywi pouches I also got the 30 footer. I didn't think I would ever need that much, but it's honestly an excellent tool. Especially as most modern tactical gear is weaving through Molle or using velcro, this stuff can be used for so much shit. Also great for organizing work benches. Useful for extension cords, xmas lights, all the rope on my boat and docks lockers, just quickly securing awkward size stuff i need bundled together. |
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For my gloves, I used a lightweight S-biner:
SBP2-03-28BG I run it through a single molle loop and good to go. |
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I just bought a ronin senshi belt and want to get esstac mag holders what is the better attachment the wtf straps or the 2” belt loop?
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