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Posted: 10/22/2018 9:10:54 AM EDT
[#1]
HARD PASS. After seeing multiple kabooms due to double charges in Tula .308 ammo, 50 BMG would be Russian roulette. Pun intended.
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Posted: 10/22/2018 9:37:43 AM EDT
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I'm all about some cheaper ammo for my Barrett. But yeah no. It's one thing to kaboom an Ar which is easily fixed and parts are stupid cheap. Whole other matter to kaboom a Barrett.
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Posted: 10/22/2018 9:52:13 AM EDT
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Just looked it up.
Why on God's green Earth would you use a Berdan primer? 
They make 50 Cal primers for goodness sakes? At least make the case reloadable and give us some reason to buy your crappy Russian ammo! |
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Posted: 10/22/2018 2:14:40 PM EDT
[#4]
How long before the " My 82A1 short strokes for some reason. Used to run great" topics.
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Posted: 10/23/2018 9:15:57 AM EDT
[#5]
No Thanks.
I'm certain my Steyr 50 HS was 'proof tested' at the factory! |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 1:35:36 PM EDT
[#6]
I've been waiting for someone to post that they've tried this ammo. I've seen it for sale on GB but its priced higher than most other off the shelf ammo.
I suppose if you have the time, you could buy some, break it down, check the charge and then put it back together. Yeah, I know that's a lot of extra work but that's what I would do to some if I bought it. Call it peace of mind knowing that if it KB'd in your firearm it could take your head off. So, anyone out there tried it and have some feedback? |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 2:02:24 PM EDT
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I have two boxes of it at the house. If I’m off on Sunday maybe I’ll go dump a mag of it.
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Posted: 10/23/2018 2:46:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Just looked it up. Why on God's green Earth would you use a Berdan primer?
They make 50 Cal primers for goodness sakes? At least make the case reloadable and give us some reason to buy your crappy Russian ammo! |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 3:23:14 PM EDT
[#9]
Big man
If you do shoot them, take a look inside of the case and let us know what type of primer they're using. I have to agree that's it's stupid to use berdan primed cases/ammo and sell to public at increased price. And then sell regular primers to the public at a good price?! Hell, I didn't know anyone still made berdan primed ammo.
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Posted: 10/28/2018 4:41:50 PM EDT
[#10]
Well I went out and shot 10 rounds through my M82a1. I didn’t notice any functional difference between the Tula, Federal, and PMC bronze. The casings looked fine after firing, with no splits or deformation seen. The Tula is Berdan primed as indicated on the box.
 
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Posted: 10/29/2018 2:51:24 PM EDT
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If it were cheap enough, that'd be one thing... but decent brass, decent ammo, more than XM33, and Berdan primed? It just doesn't make sense. I wish they'd stop using Berdan primers for the 12.7x108mm Tula ammo, too, but what choice do I really have for that caliber? It's a shame.
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Posted: 10/29/2018 4:03:37 PM EDT
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Those factories are tooled for berdan and they've never had a reason to switch. Part of the reason why they make cheap ammo.
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Posted: 10/29/2018 4:25:36 PM EDT
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Although Berdan has been the European standard, I have seen plenty of .223, 40 S&W, and 45 ACP steel cased ammo that was Boxer primed.
The Russians are capable of making Boxer cases, and they make Boxer primers for export, so why not combine the two to make Boxer primed brass that is easily reloadable and make the brass more valuable? |
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Posted: 10/29/2018 4:44:07 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Although Berdan has been the European standard, I have seen plenty of .223, 40 S&W, and 45 ACP steel cased ammo that was Boxer primed. The Russians are capable of making Boxer cases, and they make Boxer primers for export, so why not combine the two to make Boxer primed brass that is easily reloadable and make the brass more valuable? 
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Posted: 10/29/2018 7:47:13 PM EDT
[#15]
I'll pass. Then again I pass on all .50 ,loaded by others, ammo.
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Posted: 10/30/2018 6:52:41 AM EDT
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZGanYnPFdU
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Posted: 10/30/2018 5:29:41 PM EDT
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As to the Tube review, that guy is cracked if he thinks $5/round is a good price for berdan primed ball .50. Loaded with 243 grains of what I wonder? It better be damn slow.
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Posted: 10/30/2018 6:12:54 PM EDT
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As to the Tube review, that guy is cracked if he thinks $5/round is a good price for berdan primed ball .50. Loaded with 243 grains of what I wonder? It better be damn slow. Literally bought the ammo and he threw in the upper! |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 11:10:38 AM EDT
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I'm going to put a word of caution here, start a new thread about the BOHICA upper and ask questions if you plan on using it!
That or do some serious research on them, find out if it's been upgraded as you cannot get service on them anymore. These upgrades should've been done to make it more safe to use. Check with the prior owner and see which version he bought, I think it was the Mk-3 or whatever the last one was that had all the upgrades. The last thing you want is that upper firing out of battery. Be safe! |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 9:13:21 PM EDT
[#20]
I have the Mk III. Hasn’t been fired in years but I understand that’s the safer version.
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Posted: 11/12/2018 12:59:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Although Berdan has been the European standard, I have seen plenty of .223, 40 S&W, and 45 ACP steel cased ammo that was Boxer primed. The Russians are capable of making Boxer cases, and they make Boxer primers for export, so why not combine the two to make Boxer primed brass that is easily reloadable and make the brass more valuable? However, I would bet Tula manufactures this ammo in the same plant where they make 12.7mm DShK ammunition for the military & export. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DShK That ammo likely uses the same Berdan primer. Manufacturing a new boxer primer in 50 would have cost them more Rubles. Unfortunately, they won't see much market demand for 50 at the prices they are asking. |
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Posted: 11/12/2018 1:13:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fair point; they can and do make boxer primers/ammo. However, I would bet Tula manufactures this ammo in the same plant where they make 12.7mm DShK ammunition for the military & export. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DShK That ammo likely uses the same Berdan primer. Manufacturing a new boxer primer in 50 would have cost them more Rubles. Unfortunately, they won't see much market demand for 50 at the prices they are asking. Funny enough, the 12.7x99mm/.50BMG is the exact same price. |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 11:35:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Well I went out and shot 10 rounds through my M82a1. I didn’t notice any functional difference between the Tula, Federal, and PMC bronze. The casings looked fine after firing, with no splits or deformation seen. The Tula is Berdan primed as indicated on the box. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/456736/B598ACE1-584C-45BE-8222-E46F44974AD9-720141.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/456736/4807D08D-2CD4-4ABF-AC4A-9F3A19B04A75-720143.jpg Would it be possible to pull the berdan primer and measure the primer pocket diameter and depth? I'm curious if these cases could have the berdan anvil drilled out and made suitable for boxer priming. |
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Posted: 11/17/2018 1:03:25 PM EDT
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Yep I’ll pull one for you. It might be awhile though, I’m back working 7-14s.
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Posted: 11/17/2018 4:22:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @bigman46 Would it be possible to pull the berdan primer and measure the primer pocket diameter and depth? I'm curious if these cases could have the berdan anvil drilled out and made suitable for boxer priming. |
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Posted: 11/17/2018 6:00:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What, you don't have a case of Berdan .50BMG primers? ...honestly, are the proper size primers even sold in the USA? I would like to eventually reload the 12.7x108mm cases I have, and I assume they're the same primer (but might not be!) as the Tula .50BMG. Quote HistoryQuoted: What, you don't have a case of Berdan .50BMG primers? ...honestly, are the proper size primers even sold in the USA? I would like to eventually reload the 12.7x108mm cases I have, and I assume they're the same primer (but might not be!) as the Tula .50BMG. Quoted:
Yep I’ll pull one for you. It might be awhile though, I’m back working 7-14s. |
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Posted: 11/17/2018 6:12:43 PM EDT
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Can't seem to even find a supplier in the US. |
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Posted: 11/17/2018 6:34:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just sent e-mails to TulAmmo, Wolf, Grafs, Midway, and some others... we'll see what turns up. Perhaps they're available for import and simply not offered openly due to vanishingly small demand. At any rate, it can't hurt to ask. |
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Posted: 11/18/2018 3:26:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Funny enough one of the dead links my searches turned up was for Graf's. I'm not optimistic about finding Berdan primers suitable for x99 or x108mm, but I suppose machining a sleeve and drilling a center hole for a Boxer primer isn't out of the question. I really want to be able to reload 12.7x108mm, as surplus has all but disappeared and it's far too expensive to shoot factory ammo only. |
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