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Posted: 5/10/2022 10:09:26 AM EDT
[#1]
I haven’t found one that actually stays put. Some are surprisingly heavy for what they are.
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Posted: 5/10/2022 10:10:17 AM EDT
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Voted yay, but really depends on the suppressor, optic, shooter, style of shooting, etc.
For a SBR, high volume shooting with optics? Yes For a hunting rifle where one or two shots is all you’ll get? Probably not For a handgun that may go against my leg when holstered and be hot? Yes |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 10:15:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Voted yay, but really depends on the suppressor, optic, shooter, style of shooting, etc. For a SBR, high volume shooting with optics? Yes For a hunting rifle where one or two shots is all you’ll get? Probably not For a handgun that may go against my leg when holstered and be hot? Yes Good points, I never considered one on a handgun |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 10:18:10 AM EDT
[#4]
I like my BPG cover because when I’m done at the range I can put my rifle in the truck without worrying about it burning my seats or floor mats
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Posted: 5/10/2022 10:35:46 AM EDT
[#5]
I use them to keep mirage out of my magnified optics, and on SBRs to avoid burning my legs.
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Posted: 5/10/2022 11:11:01 AM EDT
[#6]
Magnified optics? Yes, mirage is a thing.
Otherwise, not really. It's added weight and it holds heat in the can as long as it's attached. Some are easier to install/remove than others so you can put it on when shooting, then remove it to allow the can to cool. But the ones that are quicker/easier to remove tend not to stay put when in use. I've got a handful of covers and they rarely get used anymore. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 11:19:22 AM EDT
[#7]
I'm a fan of Tom Bowers "Griptastic" silicone cover.
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Posted: 5/10/2022 11:28:49 AM EDT
[#8]
only for short term mirage mitigation on long range runs.
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Posted: 5/10/2022 11:35:55 AM EDT
[#9]
Yes, because I prefer not to melt my pants to my leg when I sling the rifle.
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Posted: 5/10/2022 11:44:34 AM EDT
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The covers unfortunately add weight to the end of the gun where it is least acceptable, and they insulate the can that needs to cool. They are typically good for precision rifles where the mirage is a big deal to contend with through heavily magnified optics.
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Posted: 5/10/2022 1:04:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm a fan of Tom Bowers "Griptastic" silicone cover. I wanted to try a couple but they've been out of stock for a long time. I had the page bookmarked and one day it started getting the 404 error. Then searching the Bowers home page for griptastic or cover doesn't find them. Looks like they're discontinued.  ETA: Just sent them an email to ask. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 1:05:23 PM EDT
[#12]
No. Weight, aesthetics, cooling mitigation all reasons against
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Posted: 5/10/2022 1:17:15 PM EDT
[#13]
In a class all day or any high volume shooting? Yeppers. Beats getting burned.
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Posted: 5/10/2022 1:39:47 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: For a handgun that may go against my leg when holstered and be hot? Yes Will suppressor height sights actually clear a suppressor cover on a pistol? |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 1:43:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm a fan of Tom Bowers "Griptastic" silicone cover.  Me too. Doesn't look as tacticool, but it does keep one from getting burned. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 1:45:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wanted to try a couple but they've been out of stock for a long time. I had the page bookmarked and one day it started getting the 404 error. Then searching the Bowers home page for griptastic or cover doesn't find them. Looks like they're discontinued. ETA: Just sent them an email to ask. I think I got mine a couple years ago. But I just, you know, picked up the phone and called them. Sort of a 80's or 90's moment, but the cover came to my house with no issues. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 2:38:14 PM EDT
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Can I select "Maybe?" as an answer?
Since Covid my training has changed pretty significantly. I used to attend at least one rifle class a year and I used to shoot at least 500 rounds of rifle ammo a month. The vast majority of the drills that I was running were between 3 and 100 yards with a large percentage of those being closer rather than farther. The guns would get hot, really hot and I would have to be very careful of where the suppressor was landing during training. I invested in a burn proof cover which was absolute garbage. That thing would not stay put despite literally almost wrapping it around the entire damned ends of the can. I also didn't like that it was on there permanently so If i wanted to remove it, it was an ordeal. I don't shoot with any magnified optics besides a 3X magnifier so mirage for me was never a concern. Since Covid, the guns simply dont get as hot and I haven't really found a need for them. Yay: High volume training Precision rifle mirage reduction Duty use where IF you burn your pants, getting a replacement takes an act of congress (retarded reasoning but its the truth) Nay: Basically any other use. Rifles are getting pretty heavy with MFAL's, lights and other shit. Adding ounces to the muzzle end of the gun beyond what the suppressor is already adding is not something I want to be doing. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 2:58:09 PM EDT
[#18]
Bowers Griptastic suppressor covers are discontinued.
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Posted: 5/10/2022 8:32:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The covers unfortunately add weight to the end of the gun where it is least acceptable, and they insulate the can that needs to cool. But I rarely use magnified optics. I do use a suppressor bag but not for shooting, only for transport. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 8:50:49 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I haven’t found one that actually stays put. Some are surprisingly heavy for what they are. I started tying the wrap to the handguard. Looks a bit goofy, but it keeps it in place. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 9:25:29 PM EDT
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Mirage shows up pretty quick when I'm shooting groups with the 556 bolt gun, so yay for me. In that instance at least.
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Posted: 5/10/2022 9:41:37 PM EDT
[#22]
Libertys Defense are the shizz
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Posted: 5/11/2022 12:24:08 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Libertys Defense are the shizz Wow, those are pricey! |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 1:02:57 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No. Weight, aesthetics, cooling mitigation all reasons against But, I do kinda see a value as I do like the not burning me or my truck if slung or leaned up against though. My 556 Can heats up enough to where I can cook on it. My .22, 9mm, .45 and .300 Blk cans not so much to worry about. They don't get that hot and cool off really fast. |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 1:04:19 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/60042/20200716_164058-1506695.jpg Me too. Doesn't look as tacticool, but it does keep one from getting burned. J/p... Doesn't really look bad. |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 3:23:34 PM EDT
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Yay, but the particular cover does matter.
Having a destructive, 3rd-degree-burn risk waving around on the end of a barrel is just not something I want to deal with. Jack Leuba (of KAC) posted a bit on TOS about covers. We all understand the theory of trapping the heat in, but his post about KAC's testing alleviated much of that concern for me. Suppressors also tend to glow brightly under night vision after relatively small strings of fire. I have a Burn Proof Gear heavy version that wraps around both ends of a Sandman K. I chose it because of that wrapping feature, and because it was designed for semi-auto carbine things, not precision shooting things. It has been great and saved a pair of pants at least once so far. I don't know why the other poster had issues with it moving. Mine will spin, but I can hold the whole weapon by the suppressor/cover and yank on it without it sliding off. I have personally seen, and heard more of, Cole-Tac's traditional covers sliding off after very tame use. I agree that the end of the barrel/suppressor is the worst place for weight, but I've found the BPG cover to be negligible in adding weight. The BPG does wrap over my Key-Mo mount, so it does have to be "unlaced" to take the cover on and off, but I just keep it on and have no need to attach/detach quickly. |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 3:29:34 PM EDT
[#27]
I bought one
I use it to transport it from home and to the range. Not for anything else The suppressor cools off faster with it removed, and I lay prone or on a bench so I don’t be burning any organs or fingers |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 6:00:58 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You order that from "As Seen On TV" or The Kitchen Store???? J/p... Doesn't really look bad. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/60042/20200716_164058-1506695.jpg Me too. Doesn't look as tacticool, but it does keep one from getting burned. J/p... Doesn't really look bad. Lol. It is exactly like the silicon kitchen stuff. |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 6:46:42 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yay, but the particular cover does matter. Having a destructive, 3rd-degree-burn risk waving around on the end of a barrel is just not something I want to deal with. Jack Leuba (of KAC) posted a bit on TOS about covers. We all understand the theory of trapping the heat in, but his post about KAC's testing alleviated much of that concern for me. Suppressors also tend to glow brightly under night vision after relatively small strings of fire. I have a Burn Proof Gear heavy version that wraps around both ends of a Sandman K. I chose it because of that wrapping feature, and because it was designed for semi-auto carbine things, not precision shooting things. It has been great and saved a pair of pants at least once so far. I don't know why the other poster had issues with it moving. Mine will spin, but I can hold the whole weapon by the suppressor/cover and yank on it without it sliding off. I have personally seen, and heard more of, Cole-Tac's traditional covers sliding off after very tame use. I agree that the end of the barrel/suppressor is the worst place for weight, but I've found the BPG cover to be negligible in adding weight. The BPG does wrap over my Key-Mo mount, so it does have to be "unlaced" to take the cover on and off, but I just keep it on and have no need to attach/detach quickly. What does TOS stand for? We never tested silencer covers except to know that they work fine for practical shooting and precision shooting. We never torture tested the suppressors with the covers because that would seem obvious to result in silencers that cannot cool efficiently. Insulation is how they prevent burns. |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 7:12:20 PM EDT
[#30]
I have them in my rifle suppressors, but that's it. My pistol suppressors don't get dangerously hot.
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Posted: 5/11/2022 7:39:37 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What does TOS stand for? We never tested silencer covers except to know that they work fine for practical shooting and precision shooting. We never torture tested the suppressors with the covers because that would seem obvious to result in silencers that cannot cool efficiently. Insulation is how they prevent burns. TOS = The Other Site, aka em-four-carbine-dot-net. I wouldn't be confident recommending a cloth-based cover for full-auto or massive amounts of rapid-fire. Of course I'm not going to test the limits with my own equipment either. |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 10:43:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: TOS = The Other Site, aka em-four-carbine-dot-net. AKA the site I won’t go back to visit after a Mod told me to “stay in my lane” when I answered an NFA question somebody asked. Seriously. 
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Posted: 5/12/2022 9:44:16 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yay, but the particular cover does matter. Having a destructive, 3rd-degree-burn risk waving around on the end of a barrel is just not something I want to deal with. Jack Leuba (of KAC) posted a bit on TOS about covers. We all understand the theory of trapping the heat in, but his post about KAC's testing alleviated much of that concern for me. Suppressors also tend to glow brightly under night vision after relatively small strings of fire. I have a Burn Proof Gear heavy version that wraps around both ends of a Sandman K. I chose it because of that wrapping feature, and because it was designed for semi-auto carbine things, not precision shooting things. It has been great and saved a pair of pants at least once so far. I don't know why the other poster had issues with it moving. Mine will spin, but I can hold the whole weapon by the suppressor/cover and yank on it without it sliding off. I have personally seen, and heard more of, Cole-Tac's traditional covers sliding off after very tame use. I agree that the end of the barrel/suppressor is the worst place for weight, but I've found the BPG cover to be negligible in adding weight. The BPG does wrap over my Key-Mo mount, so it does have to be "unlaced" to take the cover on and off, but I just keep it on and have no need to attach/detach quickly. I will second this. I also run a Burn Proof Gear cover. Mine is on a G5-T and I subject it to regular FA use. It was a learning experience for me but after a few trips, I managed to get it fitted to where it won't slip. The only real issue I had with it was the elastic tie it was supplied with. I got it hot enough that it lost it's elasticity and I decided to replace it with nomex, flame resistant, kevlar core shoe laces. These stand up to the heat much better than the elastic did and I have not had to replace or tighten them. And under most conditions, I don't need to use a oven mitt to remove it, the cover provides enough protection from the heat that I can remove it wearing just my normal shooting gloves. |
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Posted: 5/14/2022 11:45:20 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I haven’t found one that actually stays put. The Bowers covers are difficult to remove. No issues coming loose. My favorite is a leather & nomex cover I’ve had for close to 20 years. It also does not move around until you loosen the laces. After burning my hand pretty well at a subgun match while trying to tighten a loose can in the middle of a stage (MAC10. It happens), I decided a can cover is the way to go for full auto. Here’s the lace-up job. Unfortunately, these have been out of production for a long time. 
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Posted: 5/16/2022 11:49:27 AM EDT
[#35]
I have the Bowers cut to size and slip on covers on all my rifle cans.
As other's have said, it's too hazardous for me to have a 600 F or higher suppressor on the end of a rifle, for me. I've seen (nasty!) pictures of burns from cans, and that plus the danger of instinctive jumping around after a burn (with a gun in your hands) is worth having to push the cover back down after 40 - 50 rounds, which happens sometimes, not always. |
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