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Posted: 11/23/2022 12:56:44 PM EST
Does anyone have access to that info? There is a thread on the CMP forum where members request firearms information. You submit your SN and you can cross-check it to see if there are any hits in the system. It can help track down the history of the firearm. It's really neat.
I have the electronic version but according to a few of the people over there, it is missing info. I asked what information was missing but I never received an answer. So back to my original question, doesn't anyone have access to the info? I am more than happy to cross-check SN's to what I have but there is a potential some info is missing. Ex. a few excerpts. Colt1911s. 6114 111231PRESCOTT ARMORY (STOLEN) 719275 072443USS SARATOGA TORPEDO SQDN 3 2199720 060550USMC - USS MIDWAY 1903s 12981RI 050141USMC - PARRIS ISLAND 54842 111730USMC - PEARL HARBOR 3600926 091244USS NOA (SALVAGED) |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 11/24/2022 11:08:54 AM EST
[Last Edit: TGH456E]
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To be honest..... I'm not sure what you are asking here.........
-You are willing to take serials posted here and put them into the CMP thread? -You are looking for someone here with the Books to look and see how it differs from your on-line version? Or you want to start the same type thread here, using your SRS copies? |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 11:53:00 AM EST
[Last Edit: TOTHEMAX]
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I just re read what I wrote. I did it in haste yesterday so hopefully this clears it up.
The cmp thread is so slow its not even worth posting in it. While it provides their members some solid info, some of our members are not members over there and don't have access to the thread. Does anyone here have the books and are they willing to help our members look up numbers? I have the electronic version and I am willing to look stuff up but I have been told, but never shown, that there may be missing data. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 11/24/2022 6:43:34 PM EST
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Oh OK........
I don't have all the books and magazines........ or I would. |
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Posted: 11/25/2022 6:58:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: TOTHEMAX]
[#4]
I am offering up my services to look up SN's in the electronic database. If anyone wants me to check SN's, post them up and I will see if there are any hits.
I just need the Gun make (M1 Garand, 1903, etc and the SN). If you want to PM me I can go that route as well. |
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Posted: 11/25/2022 7:39:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: Seven-Shooter]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TOTHEMAX: I am offering up my services to look up SN's in the electronic database. If anyone wants me to check SN's, post them up and I will see if there are any hits. In any case, here's a couple that might fit the bill, though I already looked them up online for their production blocks, and already know some of the post war history of the shorter one. SA M1, 3745359 SA M1, 748550 |
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Posted: 11/25/2022 8:14:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seven-Shooter: S/N# of service weapons? Or how does this work? In any case, here's a couple that might fit the bill, though I already looked them up online for their production blocks, and already know some of the post war history of the shorter one. SA M1, 3745359 SA M1, 748550 Nothing super close. 3741323 80SSGT M MCSHEEHY, USAR (AWARD) 3747971 111348FT BRAGG 747723 111846RARITAN ARS AIR GAGE TEST 749121 052252NY MA |
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Posted: 11/25/2022 9:50:53 PM EST
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How about SA M1 # 2077967 ?
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Posted: 11/25/2022 9:58:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SrBenelli: How about SA M1 # 2077967 ? 2077196 020249USMC - BAYONNE NJ 2078454NM 09 59NAVY MATCH RIFLE TEST |
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Posted: 11/27/2022 12:30:02 PM EST
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I have been looking at 1903 rifles on gun broker and checking their SN's to my srs records. No hits yet but a few dang close ones.
This one was close to a rifle I was looking at. Pretty neat history here. 1143143 031149FOREST SERVICE - ALASKA |
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Posted: 11/27/2022 12:35:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: TOTHEMAX]
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There must have been a shipment stolen from the Montana NG. There are close to 26 1903's listed as stolen on the list.
16044 121835MONTANA NG (STOLEN) There is also a bunch of these that pop-up. I wonder if they are part of the stolen rifles? Helena, MT is the home of Fort Harris. 368366 042737LAKE HELENA (RECOVERED) Edit: Looks like they were stolen from the arsenal after an earthquake and later recovered. http://www.helenahistory.org/arsenal_armory.htm |
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USA
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Posted: 11/27/2022 6:35:11 PM EST
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Are you helping out with SRS info on 1903s or M1 Garands, … or both? Thanks!
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Posted: 11/27/2022 9:01:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nick_Adams: Are you helping out with SRS info on 1903s or M1 Garands, … or both? Thanks! I have access to 1903, 1911, m1 garand, m1 carbine, krag, trap doors, 1917s, etc. Pretty much anything us military. |
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USA
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Posted: 11/29/2022 9:05:00 PM EST
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Can you PM me tomorrow? I’ve got two 1903s and one M1 that need to be checked. Thanks!
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Posted: 11/29/2022 9:13:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nick_Adams: Can you PM me tomorrow? I’ve got two 1903s and one M1 that need to be checked. Thanks! I will try to remember. I am on shift so I may forget. |
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AR, USA
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Posted: 12/6/2022 11:37:18 AM EST
[#15]
Hi, any info on Winchester 131795
thanks |
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Posted: 12/6/2022 11:06:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hagrock2: Hi, any info on Winchester 131795 thanks I am away from my data for a week but I will check when I get home. |
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USA
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Posted: 12/7/2022 4:17:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TOTHEMAX: I am away from my data for a week but I will check when I get home. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TOTHEMAX: Originally Posted By hagrock2: Hi, any info on Winchester 131795 thanks I am away from my data for a week but I will check when I get home. Please contact me by PM when you get home. I've got two 1903s and one M1 I need checked. Thanks! |
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Posted: 12/10/2022 1:36:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hagrock2: Hi, any info on Winchester 131795 thanks @hagrock2 No hits 131495 012241WRA CO (FINAL INSPECTION) 131639 012241WRA CO (FINAL INSPECTION) 132290 012241WRA CO (FINAL INSPECTION) |
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USA
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Posted: 12/11/2022 6:59:01 PM EST
[#19]
PM sent.
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CT, USA
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Posted: 12/22/2022 1:10:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: Mitchman705]
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Garands:
SA 3006101 HRA 5780443 WRA 122619 Please and thank you! |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 3:13:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mitchman705: Garands: SA 3006101 HRA 5780443 WRA 122619 Please and thank you! You are welcome! 3003923 042347USMC - ACCURACY TEST 3007915 050753CO M 60TH INF (LOST) 5746798 091459SA (RUPTURED) 5783678 042357H&R (LIGHTWEIGHT RIFLE TEST) 122439 012241WRA CO (FINAL INSPECTION) 123661 012241WRA CO (FINAL INSPECTION) |
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Posted: 12/31/2022 8:19:15 AM EST
[#22]
SA 1652706. Thanks
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Posted: 12/31/2022 8:44:46 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By L119188: SA 1652706. Thanks No hits 1648138 071753CO L 39TH INF (LOST) 1657600 08 51HQ CO FMF PAC TROOPS |
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Posted: 12/31/2022 7:01:47 PM EST
[#24]
That’s helpful. Thanks for looking it up.
It’s a Philippine return CMP rifle I got this summer. Left the factory in July of 1943. Wish it could talk. :) |
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Posted: 12/31/2022 7:32:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By L119188: That’s helpful. Thanks for looking it up. It’s a Philippine return CMP rifle I got this summer. Left the factory in July of 1943. Wish it could talk. :) You are most welcome. 
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BEN
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Posted: 1/7/2023 1:20:23 PM EST
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Could you do SA M1 621142 please?
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Posted: 1/7/2023 1:25:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheDirtyLarry: Could you do SA M1 621142 please? No dice 619537 0711459TH SERVICE COMMAND 621339 0718466TH ARMY |
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Posted: 1/8/2023 4:40:26 PM EST
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Can you do Springfield Garand 3227262? Thanks
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Posted: 1/8/2023 10:48:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tc2129: Can you do Springfield Garand 3227262? Thanks 3227141 082346SAA BARREL FITTING TEST 3228988 050550USMC - CHERRY POINT |
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Posted: 1/9/2023 11:03:35 PM EST
[#30]
Appreciate it. I’ve got a few more I may have you look into if that’s ok. A couple more Garands, some M1 carbines, Krag, and 1903.
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Posted: 1/10/2023 9:10:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tc2129: Appreciate it. I’ve got a few more I may have you look into if that’s ok. A couple more Garands, some M1 carbines, Krag, and 1903. Anytime.
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Posted: 1/11/2023 4:14:47 PM EST
[Last Edit: DG_NorthTX]
[#32]
Mind doing Springfield M1's 2278846 and 3771039?
(eta) WRA M1 139497 |
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Posted: 1/12/2023 9:56:00 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DG_NorthTX: Mind doing Springfield M1's 2278846 and 3771039? (eta) WRA M1 139497 No hits. 2278663 08 51HQ CO FMF PAC TROOPS 2281307 08 51HQ CO FMF PAC TROOPS 3770352 021449FT BENNING 3774714 011450OKLA A&M COLL 138420 1109486TH ARMY 143216 080146M F C HEATER |
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Posted: 1/12/2023 12:57:11 PM EST
[#34]
Thanks for trying those. I really appreciate it. Here's a Rem 1903 if you don't mind 3035645.
Also, would a US built (Savage) Enfield show up on your list? |
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Posted: 1/12/2023 2:50:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DG_NorthTX: Thanks for trying those. I really appreciate it. Here's a Rem 1903 if you don't mind 3035645. Also, would a US built (Savage) Enfield show up on your list? There is a large gap between those serial numbers. 3023202 020390USMC FIELD MUSEUM QUANTICO 3091705 091648VFW POST 7208 I am not sure about enfields. I would have to look at that data on my pc. I have m1garand and 1903s on my phone. |
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Posted: 1/12/2023 3:14:28 PM EST
[#36]
Much obliged good sir.
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Posted: 1/12/2023 5:47:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DG_NorthTX: Much obliged good sir. Anytime 
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Posted: 1/16/2023 10:24:22 AM EST
[Last Edit: Polupharmakos]
[#38]
Sorry I only saw this just now. I have the four books, which includes the 1999 edition of vol. 4. Regarding the differences between the electronic info and books, this is the explanation given over at the CMP: http://forums.thecmp.org/showpost.php?p=1708617&postcount=1834
Happy to look up some guns as time allows. In return, might I ask a favor from the hive? I'm on the hunt for an SRS hit trapdoor 1884 cadet rifle between 565,354 and 566,699, as a bunch of those were issued to my alma mater, the Baylor Cadets. I've run across several within that range, but haven't found an actual direct hit yet for sale, and with the SRS a miss is as good as a mile - even worse, given my understanding of the way the records were made. But a heads up on anything within that range would be tremendously appreciated! |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 3:59:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Polupharmakos: Sorry I only saw this just now. I have the four books, which includes the 1999 edition of vol. 4. Regarding the differences between the electronic info and books, this is the explanation given over at the CMP: http://forums.thecmp.org/showpost.php?p=1708617&postcount=1834 Happy to look up some guns as time allows. In return, might I ask a favor from the hive? I'm on the hunt for an SRS hit trapdoor 1884 cadet rifle between 565,354 and 566,699, as a bunch of those were issued to my alma mater, the Baylor Cadets. I've run across several within that range, but haven't found an actual direct hit yet for sale, and with the SRS a miss is as good as a mile - even worse, given my understanding of the way the records were made. But a heads up on anything within that range would be tremendously appreciated! Would any of the numbers that I posted above show up or did TOTHEMAX's database cover it? Here's a 1911 to check on; It's a Rem #2063769 |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 5:40:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DG_NorthTX: Would any of the numbers that I posted above show up or did TOTHEMAX's database cover it? Here's a 1911 to check on; It's a Rem #2063769 No hits on the M1s, 1903, or 1911, sorry. |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 6:40:01 PM EST
[#41]
I figured it was a long short, but thank you for trying.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 2/17/2023 4:12:39 PM EST
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Very early Springfield, was reimported at some point in the mid 80"s by "Blue Sky" Arlington Va. No clue where it was reimported from.
Any info you can find would be greatly appreciated. I have found conflicting info with some indicating it may have originally been a Gas Trap gun. #21395 |
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Posted: 2/17/2023 10:47:35 PM EST
[#43]
19686 0228464TH SERVICE COMMAND
21690 030140SA TO OO |
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Posted: 2/18/2023 10:17:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MudbugInAZ: Very early Springfield, was reimported at some point in the mid 80"s by "Blue Sky" Arlington Va. No clue where it was reimported from. Any info you can find would be greatly appreciated. I have found conflicting info with some indicating it may have originally been a Gas Trap gun. #21395 https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/gas-trap-garand-the-first-m1-rifle-design/ While this document reveals the number of gas trap rifles originally made, there are still some questions regarding the serial number range for these rifles. For example, it is known that some gas port rifles assembled in mid-1941 were in the 40,000 serial number range, and serial numbers as high as the 51,500 range have been reported by credible sources as original gas trap rifles. This overlap in serial numbers between gas trap and gas port M1 rifles during this period was a case of the Ordnance Dept. using up gas trap parts still on hand in order to put as many M1 rifles into the hands of troops as possible, even if they weren’t of the latest design. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 2/19/2023 4:58:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TOTHEMAX: https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/gas-trap-garand-the-first-m1-rifle-design/ While this document reveals the number of gas trap rifles originally made, there are still some questions regarding the serial number range for these rifles. For example, it is known that some gas port rifles assembled in mid-1941 were in the 40,000 serial number range, and serial numbers as high as the 51,500 range have been reported by credible sources as original gas trap rifles. This overlap in serial numbers between gas trap and gas port M1 rifles during this period was a case of the Ordnance Dept. using up gas trap parts still on hand in order to put as many M1 rifles into the hands of troops as possible, even if they weren’t of the latest design. Thanks so much! |
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Posted: 4/19/2023 1:49:21 PM EST
[#46]
Would you mind checking this one for me? SA 3721547
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Posted: 4/19/2023 7:06:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DG_NorthTX: Would you mind checking this one for me? SA 3721547 M1 garand? 3717238M1C 012992SA MUSEUM SPAR 3357 3723552 012049FT BRAGG |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:50:15 AM EST
[#48]
Yeah it was an M1.
Thanks for looking. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/20/2023 6:21:50 PM EST
[Last Edit: GarandM11936]
[#49]
Thanks for what you're doing here.
Mind checking a few for me? WRA Garand: 138307 Springfield 1903: 974513 WRA M1 Carbine: 1294044 |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 10:08:44 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GarandM11936: Thanks for what you're doing here. Mind checking a few for me? WRA Garand: 138307 Springfield 1903: 974513 WRA M1 Carbine: 1294044 137773 082549NG BUREAU 138420 1109486TH ARMY 974501 050433NY STATE ARS GOVS ISLAND 974538 061323MO NG (SURVEYED) 1284688 100648FORK UNION MA 1296832 100648FORK UNION MA Close on the 1903 |
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