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Originally Posted By cryo_tech: I thought I had found one, but is there somewhere to get an UMP stock for this? Looks like they're OOS @HBI https://hbindustries.net/store/shop/hk-mp5-stock-retrofit/  Looks good on the Kuna. |
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Originally Posted By sparky-kb: How does the Kuna handle flat nose 147 and hollow point ammo like the HST? I was looking at B&T's but the whole import kerfuffle has me looking elsewhere. Perfectly. I've shot a bunch of flat nosed 147gr FMJ, 124gr HST, 115gr Hi Shok, and 115gr Winchester flat nose out of it. Not a single hiccup. Just be aware 147gr FMJ from Winchester and Federal will absolutely be super sonic out of the Kuna (confirmed with a chrono). My current subsonic load is a 142gr RMR Idaho Silver over 3.0gr of Titegroup. 30 shot average was 979 FPS, sounded really nice. Going to switch to N320 as the Titegroup is a little dirty in the Kuna. |
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Originally Posted By bballman25: My kuna has handled everything. Flat nose, HP, FMJ, 115, 124, 147 & 165. Not a single hiccup. Originally Posted By jhon: Perfectly. I've shot a bunch of flat nosed 147gr FMJ, 124gr HST, 115gr Hi Shok, and 115gr Winchester flat nose out of it. Not a single hiccup. Just be aware 147gr FMJ from Winchester and Federal will absolutely be super sonic out of the Kuna (confirmed with a chrono). My current subsonic load is a 142gr RMR Idaho Silver over 3.0gr of Titegroup. 30 shot average was 979 FPS, sounded really nice. Going to switch to N320 as the Titegroup is a little dirty in the Kuna. Good info. Thanks! |
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Factory stock available currently from Bereli. Showing $179 w/ free shipping and $10 off if you sign up for their email list (unsubscribe thereafter). Mags available too with discounts at packs of 5 and 10. |
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Originally Posted By xwinder: Factory stock available currently from Bereli. Showing $179 w/ free shipping and $10 off if you sign up for their email list (unsubscribe thereafter). Mags available too with discounts at packs of 5 and 10. weren't you looking for one of these? |
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Originally Posted By xwinder: Factory stock available currently from Bereli. Showing $179 w/ free shipping and $10 off if you sign up for their email list (unsubscribe thereafter). Mags available too with discounts at packs of 5 and 10. That's a really good price on the stock and 10 pack of mags. I'm up to 22 mags for mine. I have a problem 
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Originally Posted By jhon: That's a really good price on the stock and 10 pack of mags. I'm up to 22 mags for mine. I have a problem Buying extra cheap mags is one of the few things I never regret. If you ever get to a point where you don't need them you can sell them off but if you need them and the price doubles you're hosed. |
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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Buying extra cheap mags is one of the few things I never regret. If you ever get to a point where you don't need them you can sell them off but if you need them and the price doubles you're hosed. Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Originally Posted By jhon: That's a really good price on the stock and 10 pack of mags. I'm up to 22 mags for mine. I have a problem Buying extra cheap mags is one of the few things I never regret. If you ever get to a point where you don't need them you can sell them off but if you need them and the price doubles you're hosed. Or end up in a state that goes full commie and bans standard capacity mags. Like Va is doing. I don't have enough funds to get everything I need, but I bought a kuna and 15 mags even though I didn't really want it. I'm now debating on whether or not to get an MP5K, cause I may want one later on. |
Thinking of picking up a case of Winchester SG9W.  How do the Kuna's like it? Acceptable accuracy @50yds? Clean burning? It'll be shot with/without suppressor(Primal w/46cal end cap) And just a friendly FYI for anyone interested in cloning your Kuna; Curtis@ https://digitalsublimationmedia.com/products/sp5-pictogram-engraving-service can replicate the factory auto pictograms on your Kuna lower. It's not listed yet. Just contact him via email. |
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Originally Posted By bad2006z71: Haven't been able to shoot this yet, but the Haga Handguard makes all the difference. Need to 3 lug my obsidian 9. https://i.imgur.com/A1vOLnvh.jpg Do you happen to know the length of that setup with the Obsidian 9 in "K" configuration and brace folded? |
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Originally Posted By sparky-kb: Do you happen to know the length of that setup with the Obsidian 9 in "K" configuration and brace folded? Originally Posted By sparky-kb: Originally Posted By bad2006z71: Haven't been able to shoot this yet, but the Haga Handguard makes all the difference. Need to 3 lug my obsidian 9. https://i.imgur.com/A1vOLnvh.jpg Do you happen to know the length of that setup with the Obsidian 9 in "K" configuration and brace folded? I dont but i can measure it tonight or tomorrow |
Joined the club today! Local store had a First Line model in stock so I fent. Went with the non braced model because it's going to be SBR'd anyway. I'm already much more pleased with it than I was my AP5-P. Can't wait to get it SBR'd and put a proper folding stock on it! Now to start getting it set up how I want it. |
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Originally Posted By sparky-kb: Joined the club today! Local store had a First Line model in stock so I fent. Went with the non braced model because it's going to be SBR'd anyway. https://i.imgur.com/8jd15ut.jpeg I'm already much more pleased with it than I was my AP5-P. Can't wait to get it SBR'd and put a proper folding stock on it! Now to start getting it set up how I want it. Very nice. Have you heard of the Nexus lower that accepts AR15 fcg? It's one of my most favorite to shoot. |
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Originally Posted By jhon: Perfectly. I've shot a bunch of flat nosed 147gr FMJ, 124gr HST, 115gr Hi Shok, and 115gr Winchester flat nose out of it. Not a single hiccup. Just be aware 147gr FMJ from Winchester and Federal will absolutely be super sonic out of the Kuna (confirmed with a chrono). My current subsonic load is a 142gr RMR Idaho Silver over 3.0gr of Titegroup. 30 shot average was 979 FPS, sounded really nice. Going to switch to N320 as the Titegroup is a little dirty in the Kuna. Originally Posted By jhon: Originally Posted By sparky-kb: How does the Kuna handle flat nose 147 and hollow point ammo like the HST? I was looking at B&T's but the whole import kerfuffle has me looking elsewhere. Perfectly. I've shot a bunch of flat nosed 147gr FMJ, 124gr HST, 115gr Hi Shok, and 115gr Winchester flat nose out of it. Not a single hiccup. Just be aware 147gr FMJ from Winchester and Federal will absolutely be super sonic out of the Kuna (confirmed with a chrono). My current subsonic load is a 142gr RMR Idaho Silver over 3.0gr of Titegroup. 30 shot average was 979 FPS, sounded really nice. Going to switch to N320 as the Titegroup is a little dirty in the Kuna. I shot some 147 grain UMC a couple of days ago and it was subsonic. Here's a quick 10 second vid comparing it to 124 NATO. 3 shots of 124 then 3 of the 147 UMC.  Kuna, Obsidian 9, 3x 124 NATO, 3x 147 subs. |
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Anyone know if any aluminum extended handguards are being developed? Right now it looks like Haga Defensive is the only option but it's polymer and pretty pricey for what it is. I read somewhere, maybe reddit, that an aluminum rail was being developed by someone but can't find the post and it didn't share any details that I recall. I'm kinda surprised Midwest Industries hasn't made one yet. |
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Originally Posted By sparky-kb: Anyone know if any aluminum extended handguards are being developed? Right now it looks like Haga Defensive is the only option but it's polymer and pretty pricey for what it is. I read somewhere, maybe reddit, that an aluminum rail was being developed by someone but can't find the post and it didn't share any details that I recall. I'm kinda surprised Midwest Industries hasn't made one yet. Hey @Midwest_Ind, any plans for something like this? |
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Originally Posted By Paulie771: Hey @Midwest_Ind, any plans for something like this? Originally Posted By Paulie771: Originally Posted By sparky-kb: Anyone know if any aluminum extended handguards are being developed? Right now it looks like Haga Defensive is the only option but it's polymer and pretty pricey for what it is. I read somewhere, maybe reddit, that an aluminum rail was being developed by someone but can't find the post and it didn't share any details that I recall. I'm kinda surprised Midwest Industries hasn't made one yet. Hey @Midwest_Ind, any plans for something like this? I asked in their industry forum. They said no promises, but they have a Kuna and like them as a gun. So.... everyone needs to join in on that thread so they know there's interest! MI Kuna handguard thread |
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Originally Posted By Mustang17: I'm curious to hear thoughts from those with Nexus lowers. I'm particularly interested in experiences with PSA mags and various drums. (Yes, I saw Nexus' disclaimer about mags) I could not get the Nexus to run with oem CZ mags. Pmags work great, haven't tried any others. |
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Originally Posted By sparky-kb: Is anyone working on 20 round mags for the Kuna? Would be nice to have a couple of them without having to resort to WECSOGing the factory 30 rounders. I was thnking the same thing- 20 rounders in these PCC semi SMG's are nice as they usually don't project down any further than the grip, making for an ideal storage/concealment envelope in a pack, bag, etc. Sven Manticore Arms |
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Originally Posted By PC-Tech: @Manticore_Arms weren't you looking for one of these? Originally Posted By PC-Tech: Originally Posted By xwinder: Factory stock available currently from Bereli. Showing $179 w/ free shipping and $10 off if you sign up for their email list (unsubscribe thereafter). Mags available too with discounts at packs of 5 and 10. weren't you looking for one of these? Dang, was so busy prepping for and launching the Ripley Rail I totally missed your post!  If anyone sees a source for stocks again, let me know! Sven Manticore Arms |
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Originally Posted By billygoat69: After running a few mags through the Kuna I quickly realized that it is exactly what I have been looking for. Does anyone have experience with the Unobtanium Sleds Drip-9 as a chest rig for it? I'm wanting something to keep in a small pack with it. No experience with that rig, but I'm probably going to end up with that same one down the road. I have their Sleds insert in my Spiritus JSTA pouch and love it. The sleds setup is awesome. I just wish there was an option to get a little MOLLE or small general purpose pouches on either side vs the radio holder and elastic/bungie thing. |
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Originally Posted By Headspacer: Thinking of picking up a case of Winchester SG9W. https://sgammo.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/IMG_0678-2-1536x1152.jpg How do the Kuna's like it? Acceptable accuracy @50yds? Clean burning? It'll be shot with/without suppressor(Primal w/46cal end cap) And just a friendly FYI for anyone interested in cloning your Kuna; Curtis@ https://digitalsublimationmedia.com/products/sp5-pictogram-engraving-service can replicate the factory auto pictograms on your Kuna lower. It's not listed yet. Just contact him via email. SG9W shoots very good out of the Kuna. I'm running it through a YHM R9, no issues. It's smoking fasting; my average was 1400 FPS. I haven't benched it or shot prone, but it's accurate enough to keep them on a 1/3 IPSC plate at 50 yards. |
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Originally Posted By jhon: SG9W shoots very good out of the Kuna. I'm running it through a YHM R9, no issues. It's smoking fasting; my average was 1400 FPS. I haven't benched it or shot prone, but it's accurate enough to keep them on a 1/3 IPSC plate at 50 yards. Thank you, that's good hear. I just received a case of it 
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| For those of you that have swapped out muzzle devices, what is the best way to support the barrel while torquing the factory one off and aftermarket one on, to avoid damaging anything? I emailed SA this same question but never received a response. Do they use any type of thread locker on the factory device? Lastly, is the barrel shoulder wide enough for a tri-lug adapter? I read somewhere that it is very minimal.. |
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Originally Posted By GimmeLibertee: For those of you that have swapped out muzzle devices, what is the best way to support the barrel while torquing the factory one off and aftermarket one on, to avoid damaging anything? I emailed SA this same question but never received a response. Do they use any type of thread locker on the factory device? Lastly, is the barrel shoulder wide enough for a tri-lug adapter? I read somewhere that it is very minimal.. I just put the receiver between my knees, and used a wrench to remove the brake. There was no thread locker. I had no issue putting on a 3-lug muzzle device. I think the one currently on it is a Hansohn Brothers one, but I also use a lot of KVP devices. |
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Originally Posted By willi3d: I just put the receiver between my knees, and used a wrench to remove the brake. There was no thread locker. I had no issue putting on a 3-lug muzzle device. I think the one currently on it is a Hansohn Brothers one, but I also use a lot of KVP devices. Originally Posted By willi3d: Originally Posted By GimmeLibertee: For those of you that have swapped out muzzle devices, what is the best way to support the barrel while torquing the factory one off and aftermarket one on, to avoid damaging anything? I emailed SA this same question but never received a response. Do they use any type of thread locker on the factory device? Lastly, is the barrel shoulder wide enough for a tri-lug adapter? I read somewhere that it is very minimal.. I just put the receiver between my knees, and used a wrench to remove the brake. There was no thread locker. I had no issue putting on a 3-lug muzzle device. I think the one currently on it is a Hansohn Brothers one, but I also use a lot of KVP devices. Exactly what I did as well. No issues. Believe I’m using a KAK trilug. |
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Originally Posted By willi3d: I just put the receiver between my knees, and used a wrench to remove the brake. There was no thread locker. I had no issue putting on a 3-lug muzzle device. I think the one currently on it is a Hansohn Brothers one, but I also use a lot of KVP devices. Same here. I’m using a Silencer Co. trilug with no issues. |
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Originally Posted By fenrisulfr: I honestly don't remember, probably upper receiver. Eta. It had to be the upper as there is not much barrel to grab on to. Thanks. I guess I’m looking for some more definitive and specific info here on the correct way to do this, not just what “has worked.” For ARs and such, it is always recommended to support the barrel directly with a reaction rod, BEV block, etc. when torquing muzzle devices, rather than clamping the hand guard or upper receiver, to avoid over-stressing and damaging parts that weren’t ment to be stressed in that manner. I just don’t know a lot about the Kuna and how it differs, and cannot seem to find the info I’m looking for anywhere. SA doesn’t seem to want to help either. |
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Originally Posted By GimmeLibertee: Thanks. I guess I’m looking for some more definitive and specific info here on the correct way to do this, not just what “has worked.” For ARs and such, it is always recommended to support the barrel directly with a reaction rod, BEV block, etc. when torquing muzzle devices, rather than clamping the hand guard or upper receiver, to avoid over-stressing and damaging parts that weren’t ment to be stressed in that manner. I just don’t know a lot about the Kuna and how it differs, and cannot seem to find the info I’m looking for anywhere. SA doesn’t seem to want to help either. AFAIK there is no weak index pin and certainly no gas tube to worry about on the Kuna like an AR has so the lesser torque for a MD should be ok. I just clamped mine by the hand guard too. |
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Originally Posted By GimmeLibertee: Thanks. I guess I’m looking for some more definitive and specific info here on the correct way to do this, not just what “has worked.” For ARs and such, it is always recommended to support the barrel directly with a reaction rod, BEV block, etc. when torquing muzzle devices, rather than clamping the hand guard or upper receiver, to avoid over-stressing and damaging parts that weren’t ment to be stressed in that manner. I just don’t know a lot about the Kuna and how it differs, and cannot seem to find the info I’m looking for anywhere. SA doesn’t seem to want to help either. The reality is there aren’t too many options with the Kuna. It’s a monolithic upper receiver, and there is very little barrel sticking beyond the upper. No one makes a reaction rod for the Kuna, and it’s unlikely anyone ever will, because there aren’t locking lungs or anything else for a rod to lock into. And even on an AR, what you’re locking into is the barrel extension, which is a separate part that is torqued onto the actual barrel. If you’re really worried about it and don’t want to listen to the experience of others who have removed the brake without issue, then buy a Kuna barrel nut wrench from HBI, remove the barrel, clamp the barrel in a vice, and then remove the brake. But even then, you’ll need to restrain the receiver to remove the barrel nut and that puts some stress on it. |
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Originally Posted By GimmeLibertee: For those of you that have swapped out muzzle devices, what is the best way to support the barrel while torquing the factory one off and aftermarket one on, to avoid damaging anything? I emailed SA this same question but never received a response. Do they use any type of thread locker on the factory device? Lastly, is the barrel shoulder wide enough for a tri-lug adapter? I read somewhere that it is very minimal.. I picked up a Kuna w/ the FSA brace last week, should be able to get the silencer this week. The GS where I bought both offered to install it so I’m going to watch how they handle it. |
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Originally Posted By GimmeLibertee: Thanks. I guess I’m looking for some more definitive and specific info here on the correct way to do this, not just what “has worked.” For ARs and such, it is always recommended to support the barrel directly with a reaction rod, BEV block, etc. when torquing muzzle devices, rather than clamping the hand guard or upper receiver, to avoid over-stressing and damaging parts that weren’t ment to be stressed in that manner. I just don’t know a lot about the Kuna and how it differs, and cannot seem to find the info I’m looking for anywhere. SA doesn’t seem to want to help either. For what its worth, I did the same thing as everybody else. Clamped it in soft jaws with my vice to swap out FS for three lug. No issues. |
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Originally Posted By willi3d: If you’re really worried about it and don’t want to listen to the experience of others who have removed the brake without issue, then buy a Kuna barrel nut wrench from HBI, remove the barrel, clamp the barrel in a vice, and then remove the brake. But even then, you’ll need to restrain the receiver to remove the barrel nut and that puts some stress on it. I’m not worried about it, I just prefer to do things properly when possible instead of just winging it. I’ve learned my lesson the hard way. Also, it’s not that I wasn’t listening, it’s just that I wasn’t getting very specific info like “I don’t really remember, etc.” People talk about just holding the upper between their legs, which tells me they aren’t getting anywhere close to the torque spec. However, it sounds like clamping the receiver is the SOP so I’ll do that unless I hear otherwise between now and when I get around to doing it. I guess there isn’t a specific location on the receiver that’s better to clamp it? |
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