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Posted: 9/17/2022 9:10:33 PM EDT
I was cleaning up some in the gun/reloading room today and came across a box of some old reloading stuff I inherited from my grandpa. I thought you guys might like to see
From left to right a 10 gauge lee loader, some old 45acp dies and 12 gauge reloading equipment. The cleaning rod was old and cool so I included it in the picture. 
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Posted: 9/17/2022 9:21:20 PM EDT
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Nice
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Posted: 9/17/2022 9:30:52 PM EDT
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That's pretty cool, any idea how the 12 gauge reloading tools work? Which tool is used for which step in the process?
My guess is: The brown round thing next to the red thing would be for seating primers. Next to it is a shot dipper? Then the wooden knob/handle contraption looks like it would be for roll crimping for shotgun slugs ? |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 9:48:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's pretty cool, any idea how the 12 gauge reloading tools work? Which tool is used for which step in the process? My guess is: The brown round thing next to the red thing would be for seating primers. Next to it is a shot dipper? Then the wooden knob/handle contraption looks like it would be for roll crimping for shotgun slugs ? I remember watching my grandpa using them but it was 35 years ago and I was young. From what I remember the round brown peace of wood is for removing the primer. The red ramrod and metal tube next to it is for loading the hull. The tool on the far right is for installing the new primer. And the contraption with the wood handle is indeed for roll crimping. If I remember he would roll crimp using a over shot card to keep everything in the hull. |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 9:53:18 PM EDT
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The shot dipper is kind of cool its is adjustable and is marked on the side for the different amounts.
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Posted: 9/17/2022 10:51:08 PM EDT
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Thanks for the explanation. Does the metal tube next to the red ramrod resize the brass head on the shell?
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Posted: 9/18/2022 12:10:18 AM EDT
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Those are desirable collectibles, and have special value to you as they came from your grandfather.
Thanks for sharing. |
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Posted: 9/18/2022 12:55:49 AM EDT
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That cleaning rod is fantastic!
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Posted: 9/18/2022 1:36:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks for the explanation. Does the metal tube next to the red ramrod resize the brass head on the shell? I took some more detailed pictures. For the life of me I can't find any spent hulls so I used a loaded shell. I forgot the handle of the ramrod comes off to access the decaping pin. You remove the handle and place the shell on the round base and tap the primer out  Then you place the the shell in the priming tool and press a new primer in.  Then the metal cylinder slides over the shell and acts as a funnel you use the ramrod to pack everything in.  Then you would place a over shot card over the shot and roll crimp it. I believe it only works with paper hulls.  I've never used these tools and I could be wrong on the steps. If anyone has more information on using them I'd love to hear it. I have some old paper shells I'll fire them off nextime I'm at the range and try my hand at reloading them using these tools. Should be fun. |
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Posted: 9/18/2022 2:34:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those are desirable collectibles, and have special value to you as they came from your grandfather. Thanks for sharing. They do have a very special value to me. He tought me to reload during the summers I spent with him when I was young. I eventually want to make a shadow box and display his stuff over my reloading bench. After he died and I took over all his reloading equipment I was going through some of his old reloading books and found the load development notes for his mk V weatherby. Honestly this paper is one of my prized possessions.   His rifle I'm very proud to own with 3 original boxes of ammo from when he got the gun. 
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Posted: 9/18/2022 9:38:04 AM EDT
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That is awesome!
I have a lot of reloading supplies and tools from my grandfather as well. I also have his manual (his was the hornady first edition) and it still has all his hand written notes on the pages in it. I have (and still use regularly) his texan shotshell loading press. I think of him every time I load some shells with it. |
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Posted: 9/18/2022 1:34:59 PM EDT
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Love that page of notes.
I have several from old loading manuals I bought over the years, of course never met the author. I really like when the person puts his name on the inside cover, something I always do with the date I acquired the manual and price. |
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Posted: 9/18/2022 3:19:00 PM EDT
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Very cool OP.
As stated, the notes are great especially about velocity ( good, OK, Very good! ) |
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Posted: 9/18/2022 7:22:47 PM EDT
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OP, I am still amazed by the wooden cleaning rod.
There is a whole industry vested in making metallic rods which then have to be plastic coated so they do not damage the bore and then they cost $30. Then again, you buy a short 22 caliber rod, a medium 30 cal rod,... Pretty soon, tou're into it for a hundred or two. $1 and a trip to Home Depot will yield a close-fitting dowel rod in hardwood that will NOT damage the bore, no matter what. Drill and tap a hole (or stud) to hold the brass jags and other fittings. You can push it or better just pull it thru the bore - no bore guide needed. Sometimes, what is old is new again. My paradigm was just shifted. |
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Posted: 9/18/2022 11:42:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: $1 and a trip to Home Depot will yield a close-fitting dowel rod in hardwood that will NOT damage the bore, no matter what. Drill and tap a hole (or stud) to hold the brass jags and other fittings. You can push it or better just pull it thru the bore - no bore guide needed.  Hence I bought the brass squib rod kit from Brownells |
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Posted: 9/19/2022 9:55:45 PM EDT
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How about this stuff? I bought something off Marketplace, and the owner (she!) had to show me this stuff in a crate. Someone was into Krags a century ago, still had a few pristine Krag parts wrapped in paper. There was more, all of it had original boxes. No, I did not offend her by offering to buy it, just told her what market prices were on some of it.
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Posted: 9/19/2022 10:47:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How about this stuff? I bought something off Marketplace, and the owner (she!) had to show me this stuff in a crate. Someone was into Krags a century ago, still had a few pristine Krag parts wrapped in paper. There was more, all of it had original boxes. No, I did not offend her by offering to buy it, just told her what market prices were on some of it. http://i.imgur.com/tnCQ0ig.jpg https://i.imgur.com/wRidCtG.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ci8R8ow.jpg https://i.imgur.com/HyeQqiB.jpg https://i.imgur.com/yWAK74O.jpg http://i.imgur.com/QekzQdA.jpg https://i.imgur.com/SXzF2lG.jpg https://i.imgur.com/fTAwG6m.jpg http://i.imgur.com/rTW8hnB.jpg The first 2 pictures, I have one just like it I bought at a gun show. Mine is for 38 s&w I intend to use it for my S&W victory but my wife bought me the lee dies along with 500 pieces of star line brass. No more trimming down 38 special for me 
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Posted: 9/19/2022 11:05:00 PM EDT
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I love the tong tools, mine are all Lyman.
Marlin one's are more rare. |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 12:55:41 AM EDT
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Not tools but how about some components, also from my grandpa.
I've already gone through alot, this is what I have left. I'll probably burn through most but ill save one pack of 100 of each primer.  And some old NM 45acp brass circa 1960 ive loaded all 600 cases with old powder and primers. All go bang  
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Posted: 9/20/2022 1:07:29 AM EDT
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 3 generations of IMR-3031. These '06's are loaded with the Dupont IMR-3031. |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 1:56:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just don't use a wooden dowel to try to drive out a squib in a revolver which means from the muzzle end, if it breaks, it's an expensive repair requiring removal of the barrel to drive it from the breech end. Found out the hard way Hence I bought the brass squib rod kit from BrownellsNope, not going to do that. I am still fascinated with the wooden cleaning rod. I looked for some sealed ball bearing to put in the handle, so the rod and brush can freely spin and follow the rifling. Sealed ball bearing of the proper size cost $0.60. I may have some used bearings from a skateboard. If you were really a skin flint, you could make one handle that fits many rods, each for a different caliber. That brings the grand total up to $2.20 for a cleaning rod with a ball bearing handle. |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 2:06:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://i.imgur.com/ZUCHDlil.jpg 3 generations of IMR-3031. These '06's are loaded with the Dupont IMR-3031. Nice, did you buy them 2nd hand? I really wish we ( out in California) could find deals on older components. Every one here wants a arm or a leg for anything with some age. |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 2:07:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope, not going to do that. I am still fascinated with the wooden cleaning rod. I looked for some sealed ball bearing to put in the handle, so the rod and brush can freely spin and follow the rifling. Sealed ball bearing of the proper size cost $0.60. I may have some used bearings from a skateboard. If you were really a skin flint, you could make one handle that fits many rods, each for a different caliber. That brings the grand total up to $2.20 for a cleaning rod with a ball bearing handle. PM sent |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 11:29:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice, did you buy them 2nd hand? I really wish we ( out in California) could find deals on older components. Every one here wants a arm or a leg for anything with some age. Sure there are overpriced tables, but not everybody. You have to search for deals. I have posted many funshow threads with my finds. Latest one, https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/Funshow-report/42-538365/ |
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Posted: 9/26/2022 12:02:36 AM EDT
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So there I was walking around the funshow today and what did I spot?
 A nice 3 piece 12 Ga wood cleaning rod, was only $5. I immediately thought of this thread, so here I am posting a pic of my find. I found the old brush at another table for $1. Yes old rod uses standard shotgun threads used today. I was pleased. |
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Posted: 10/4/2022 4:02:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So there I was walking around the funshow today and what did I spot? https://i.imgur.com/wSsVbV8l.jpg A nice 3 piece 12 Ga wood cleaning rod, was only $5. I immediately thought of this thread, so here I am posting a pic of my find. I found the old brush at another table for $1. Yes old rod uses standard shotgun threads used today. I was pleased. Looks like the same rod I have. I use mine this past weekend to clean my model 97 (old gun old rod seemed fitting) anyway the new 12 gauge mops I have would only thread in half way, same wit the brush. I was afraid to force it in and cross thread it. The old patch holder and mop screw in just fine. I checked the threads they appeared to be the same. I wonder if the fact the new attachments appear to be aluminum and the old ones are brass have something to do with it. Anyway nice score for 5 bucks |
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Posted: 10/4/2022 12:43:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like the same rod I have. I use mine this past weekend to clean my model 97 (old gun old rod seemed fitting) anyway the new 12 gauge mops I have would only thread in half way, same wit the brush. I was afraid to force it in and cross thread it. The old patch holder and mop screw in just fine. I checked the threads they appeared to be the same. I wonder if the fact the new attachments appear to be aluminum and the old ones are brass have something to do with it. Anyway nice score for 5 bucks I skipped by the aluminum ferrules and went with brass, for the period look. I was pleasantly surprised when my rod was threaded the same and fit new and old attachments.  Speaking of old, these are some Bedding & Mull visible powder measures I found last spring at the funshow. $50 for both.  So I built a stand for it out of white Oak (pic is before I stained it had to make sure it worked and didn't have to do any mods to it) Went on line and found a chart for the settings on the powder measure for different powders, it was spot on. It will throw exact charges of extruded powder 90% of the time, if not it's only + or - .1 grain. So it's the old school version of a Charge Master, kinda. Well within my standards for my M1 30-06 loads. |
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