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Posted: 12/11/2019 3:23:31 PM EDT

I saw the "N. Texas Night Vision Training Group?" thread and was wondering if there are any in SoCal? If not, any of ya'll down here want to start one?

Posted: 12/11/2019 3:55:37 PM EDT

[#1]

I'd be interested. I LARP in the Kern county.

Posted: 12/11/2019 3:56:13 PM EDT

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I saw the "N. Texas Night Vision Training Group?" thread and was wondering if there are any in SoCal? If not, any of ya'll down here want to start one?

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I'd be down to smoke a cigar, smoke some ammo and bring some free swag!!

Posted: 12/11/2019 4:23:52 PM EDT

[#3]

Tagging @Solscud007 as I know he's got a pretty regular crew out there that keeps their NVGs busy.

Posted: 12/11/2019 4:42:39 PM EDT

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I'd be interested. I LARP in the Kern county.

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I'd be interested in improving my LARPerator skills...

Posted: 12/11/2019 6:33:54 PM EDT

[#5]

I'm in Hollywood and would be down. Just waiting on getting some stuff to come back in from repair.

Posted: 12/11/2019 7:08:46 PM EDT

[#6]

Not sure about training. But My friend Alex Ko @Kotactical on IG. Once a month there is a outlaw USPSA style match in Piru.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B3-MmkwHU27/?igshid=7p97nhy9emmg

Alex has the ability to rent the range and do practice runs. Hit him up.

Posted: 12/11/2019 7:12:33 PM EDT

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I don’t know about group plinking and messing around with nods, but every month in SoCal we have a USPSA style outlaw night match. Everything is pistol caliber from handguns to carbines. And since it’s an outlaw match some people will bring 9mm AR pistols. Most people at the match shoot it with white light but we have a dedicated NVG squad titled OAF (Operator As F*ck) Division. We use front and back visible chem lights so that everyone can see where we’re at but the entire stage is shot under night vision as well as the squad ROs. If you’ve shot competition before and can safely run a gun at night you’re welcome to join us. Armor and helmets are not required. That’s just how I run it. Here’s a video of a recent match we shot:
Night Match

To sign up go to PractiScore.com and search for DWB Night Match

Posted: 12/12/2019 2:07:45 AM EDT

[#8]

I think group tag would be fun since we can't bring our super cool "ca" improved assault rifles.

Tons of BLM land where I am.

Posted: 12/12/2019 3:05:36 AM EDT

[#9]

I'm down.

Posted: 12/12/2019 1:26:58 PM EDT

[#10]

I could drive down

Posted: 12/13/2019 7:27:14 AM EDT

[#11]

Count me in.

Posted: 12/14/2019 10:34:41 PM EDT

[#12]

Add one more to that list!

Posted: 12/14/2019 10:42:10 PM EDT

[#13]

My Bro and I stay ready..

Were totally down braghs

Posted: 12/18/2019 9:07:09 AM EDT

[#14]

I am in San Bernardino and have a sufficient pile of wizard eyes, I'd be down too.

Posted: 12/18/2019 1:37:48 PM EDT

[#15]

I’d love to come rep the North State...

Posted: 12/19/2019 12:49:40 PM EDT

[#16]

I'm adding Prado Running Gun's Wednesday Night steel match and West End Gun Club's NightClub as NV friendly matches.

Limited Extreme Shooting Association at WEGC puts on a 3 gun night match (that includes shotguns and rifle-caliber rifles shot out to 200 yards). Sadly, this one is only in November and prone to being cancelled.

Posted: 12/28/2019 9:23:51 PM EDT

[#17]

Let's get a meet and greet in the dark set up. There is tons of BLM land for use in Kern County.

Posted: 12/28/2019 10:14:11 PM EDT

[#18]

In Ventura County, went once just outside the side of Mohave. I'm definitely in for a NV shoot! Truth is I am a today newbie and need the practice.

Posted: 12/29/2019 2:35:36 AM EDT

[#19]

I'm in OC, down to meet up and do some shooting under nods

Posted: 12/29/2019 1:11:22 PM EDT

[#20]

Are there any ranges in the OC or open land that can be used as a training spot?

Posted: 12/30/2019 2:41:30 AM EDT

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Not really anything close by (relative to OC) unfortunately. A few public ranges, if you get in with management, will let you shoot either with lights out (LAX Range) or after dark (Raahauges). Burro Canyon has been a spot I've been to a few times for some NVG classes. Obviously some LE ranges not open to public in OC... not really an option unless everyone has LE credentials. There are some solid BLM spots out near Victorville (not Hodge road, fuck that place). I'd be curious if there is anything in San Diego County.

Posted: 12/30/2019 3:05:30 AM EDT

[#22]

What's wrong with hodge road?

Posted: 12/30/2019 7:13:55 PM EDT

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I prefer not to shoot with LA gangbangers and people with reckless gun handling. I've seen too much nonsense at hodge road to go back. Besides that, there are other spots nearby that are better in my opinion and prefer.

Posted: 12/31/2019 12:24:27 PM EDT

[#24]

I'm in NoCal but I'd drive down for some night time fun.

Posted: 1/10/2020 2:14:38 AM EDT

[#25]

What a moon it's been so far this week in SoCal. I swear NODs have made me an avid moon watcher.

Posted: 1/11/2020 1:29:58 PM EDT

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I've got a reasonable understanding of the unAmerican firearm laws down in CA (I'm in OR), but how do you guys get around the insanly composed "sniper scope" laws? Have there been test cases?

Posted: 1/11/2020 2:05:21 PM EDT

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I've got a reasonable understanding of the unAmerican firearm laws down in CA (I'm in OR), but how do you guys get around the insanly composed "sniper scope" laws? Have there been test cases?

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The sniper scope law is defined as a night optical device and IR illumination mounted to your rifle. A head mounted i2 with a LAM on your rig is GTG, but a PVS14 mounted on a rifle is a no go since the 14 has an onboard IR illuminator.

Posted: 1/11/2020 3:30:35 PM EDT

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The sniper scope law is defined as a night optical device and IR illumination mounted to your rifle. A head mounted i2 with a LAM on your rig is GTG, but a PVS14 mounted on a rifle is a no go since the 14 has an onboard IR illuminator.

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I've got a reasonable understanding of the unAmerican firearm laws down in CA (I'm in OR), but how do you guys get around the insanly composed "sniper scope" laws? Have there been test cases?

The sniper scope law is defined as a night optical device and IR illumination mounted to your rifle. A head mounted i2 with a LAM on your rig is GTG, but a PVS14 mounted on a rifle is a no go since the 14 has an onboard IR illuminator.

Missing a few important details we have discovered with our research from several years ago.

Kali PC states a NV Sniper Scope must have 3 elements.
- Night Vision Light Amplification
- Reticle
- IR Illumination

In essence you can actually use a dedicated NV scope as long as you do not introduce a IR illumination.

PVS-14 behind a red dot and/or attached to a day scope would qualify as a CA NV Sniper Scope which is prohibited. Take the red dot or reticle out of the equation and use a IR pointer, you are within the law.

There has been one case law we researched awhile back in the 80's where a hunter was arrested for using a dedicated NV scope. The case was thrown out due to only two elements were present and that was the NV light amplification (intensifier tube), and reticle. NO IR illumination was on board his weapon system.

Hope this helps.