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Posted: 1/17/2021 7:41:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dixy2k: Maybe you can set them up on a helmet, one for the long distance and the other short-medium distance. (zoom in and zoom out) One is going on a helmet and maybe one on an AR. Just curious about durability and if anyone has run one on an AR. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 9:22:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Doodles: One is going on a helmet and maybe one on an AR. Just curious about durability and if anyone has run one on an AR. The way the focus works on the Fandyfire means the entire head would probably move back and forth each time you fire your weapon. Recoil would be a bitch on this little light. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 9:33:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoeJeeps: The way the focus works on the Fandyfire means the entire head would probably move back and forth each time you fire your weapon. Recoil would be a bitch on this little light. Cool thx.  I have rifle rated IR illuminators in the 850 range so not a big loss. I was trying to stay above in the 940 range. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 9:46:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Doodles: Cool thx. I have rifle rated IR illuminators in the 850 range so not a big loss. I was trying to stay above in the 940 range. You bet. I just got two in the mail today. One is going on my helmet. The other will be a handheld or just a spare. The head telescopes in and out with just a little friction. That was a surprise to me. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 10:00:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GroundhogOZ]
[#5]
Originally Posted By revengeismine: When you thought you couldn't get a worse Sionyx review than TRex Arms....this guy comes along  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zrdBpKv18cThat is a strange review and was taken from a standpoint of "I've made up my mind already". I have owned both the Aurora and now the Pro - there is a marked improvement in the performance of the Pro over the Aurora, this is very clear. Do the Aurora and Pro out perform a reasonable Gen2+ unit in a low light environment......no, but they most certainly do in higher light environments and in particular around anything with lights. Moreover, the Pro is starting to get close to a reasonable Gen2+ unit. Also, I note the author failed to acknowledge the many pluses the Aurora and Pro have over conventional analogue NODs - photos, videos, digital zoom, colour, GPS and compass to name a few. Mounting is a total non issue - I use a Lions Solutions Fast Bridge and 4/24 dovetail mount. Zero problems. I would categorically state this, if SiOnyx had released its fully functioning AR it would have taken the primary producer and industrial 24/7 market by storm and relegated analogue tubes to very specific case use. Also I am agnostic with regard to the technology e.g. I use thermal, analogue and digital VIS-NIR. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 10:01:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Doodles: Cool thx. I have rifle rated IR illuminators in the 850 range so not a big loss. I was trying to stay above in the 940 range. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Doodles: Originally Posted By JoeJeeps: The way the focus works on the Fandyfire means the entire head would probably move back and forth each time you fire your weapon. Recoil would be a bitch on this little light. Cool thx. I have rifle rated IR illuminators in the 850 range so not a big loss. I was trying to stay above in the 940 range. If you have any P60 compatible flashlight hosts, Amazon has a 940nm head available. I have one and a 850nm head for my Solarforce L2 hosts. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 10:13:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By revengeismine: If you have any P60 compatible flashlight hosts, Amazon has a 940nm head available. I have one and a 850nm head for my Solarforce L2 hosts. Good tip. I'll have to check. They both came from ATN when I bought the X-sight 2. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:43:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: JoeJeeps]
[#8]
Never mind.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 6:45:02 PM EDT
[#9]
Are you guys painting over the led indicator to be more stealthy?
 Does that present any problems? |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 7:42:56 PM EDT
[#10]
vinyl tape works
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Posted: 1/18/2021 8:11:11 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoeJeeps: Are you guys painting over the led indicator to be more stealthy? Does that present any problems? I camo painted both of my sports in their entirety. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 8:45:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JoeJeeps]
[#12]
Never mind.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 8:52:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By revengeismine: I camo painted both of my sports in their entirety. So you don't end up needing that light to program the unit or anything? It's just there as a charging indicator? I'll probably just put a dab of black paint on it in that case. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 8:53:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By revengeismine: I camo painted both of my sports in their entirety. I saw them, they look awesome. What size lens covers did you end up using? Are those just the Butler Creeks? |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 9:52:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoeJeeps: So you don't end up needing that light to program the unit or anything? It's just there as a charging indicator? I'll probably just put a dab of black paint on it in that case. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoeJeeps: Originally Posted By revengeismine: I camo painted both of my sports in their entirety. So you don't end up needing that light to program the unit or anything? It's just there as a charging indicator? I'll probably just put a dab of black paint on it in that case. If you are talking about this led  It's the charging, power, and I believe shutter recording indicator. No issue covering it up. Originally Posted By JoeJeeps: Originally Posted By revengeismine: I camo painted both of my sports in their entirety. I saw them, they look awesome. What size lens covers did you end up using? Are those just the Butler Creeks? Thanks man. Appreciate the compliment. They are butler creek #8 blizzard caps. They have been a bitch to find. Amazon has a 2 pack from a 3rd party available now for $22. 1 left. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XZ5R9NY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_mSJbGbGC3GQYY?psc=1 I have an extra set myself. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 10:11:57 PM EDT
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Perfect. I nabbed that last set. I have some of gaspain's IRnightshades inbound as well. I'll just have to figure out which I like once they get here.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 10:36:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mickdonaldson: The different models have different numbers. The OG Classic was at 1.09 (IIRC) when I got the Sport, but the Sport was at 1.0. My Pros were at 1.0 (last check was November), now its up to 1.10 apparently. If they fixed the Eye Sensor IR bug on the Pro...you're welcome  I bug the sh*t out of those poor guys.My Pros are at v1.32. Looked in the mirror to see if there was a "shoot me light" and didn't see anything. Is this issue considered fixed now? |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:13:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gaspain: just a reminder to start with this: Tips for setting up SiOnyx camera for helmet use as of 9/14/2019, subject to firmware changes: 1-Use Video mode, set EIS off, FPS to 30, 720p, HDR on (or photo mode) 2-Long press the SET button to access the menu, Toggle down to EVF Time Out and set to "Never". Then scroll down to image and set to invert on the left camera. 3-Zoom in 3 clicks for 1:1 view (using the 4 way buttons). Use 2 clicks for the Pro version. 4-Turn down viewfinder illumination almost all the way (using the 4 way buttons) 5-Rotate front ring from Day to Night mode. Bumping this up for the noobs like me. This answered most of my settings questions. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:59:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoeJeeps: My Pros are at v1.32. Looked in the mirror to see if there was a "shoot me light" and didn't see anything. Is this issue considered fixed now? Good to know, my Pro is also 1.32 FW. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 1:07:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: JoeJeeps]
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I'd also note that 1:1 seems to be three clicks now on the Pro. Everything I read previously said it was 2 clicks, but not for me with firmware v1.32. Can anyone else confirm?
ETA: My zoom settings go back to default every time I power off the camera. Is that normal? |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 2:57:00 AM EDT
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Interesting - on the Aurora it was a very definite 3 clicks.
On the Pro I have been using both 2 and 3 clicks - for me either seem to work. The zoom does a reset every time you restart. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 6:06:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: glklvr]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoeJeeps: Bumping this up for the noobs like me. This answered most of my settings questions. Thanks for finding this. I just updated my firmware and it reset everything back to factory so I was looking for the needed settings. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 8:16:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By revengeismine: If you are talking about this led https://i.ibb.co/M21H14Z/240x400-Sionyx-Aurora-Sport-81665098-d15b-4997-b422-c7b6e94c4583-1600x.jpg It's the charging, power, and I believe shutter recording indicator. No issue covering it up. Thanks man. Appreciate the compliment. They are butler creek #8 blizzard caps. They have been a bitch to find. Amazon has a 2 pack from a 3rd party available now for $22. 1 left. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XZ5R9NY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_mSJbGbGC3GQYY?psc=1 I have an extra set myself. Thanks for the heads up on the lens covers - I also ordered a set (they restock on 2nd Feb) |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 9:45:41 PM EDT
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I updated my firmware on my Sport, I think it is easily 10-15% better at sensitivity now.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 11:25:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Doodles]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gaspain: I updated my firmware on my Sport, I think it is easily 10-15% better at sensitivity now. Awesome! What's the new version #? |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:50:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: JoeJeeps]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glklvr: Thanks for finding this. I just updated my firmware and it reset everything back to factory so I was looking for the needed settings. You bet. I will say that I decided to leave gain at zero. Lowering the brightness (gain) via the d pad just made the picture darker for me, but I didn't notice any improvement in the picture. This is on a set of Pros. I still need to fool around with settings some more under differing conditions, but so far I'm impressed...100% cloud cover with street lights 1 mile away...I can see everything in the field behind my house with no IR help. What my phone sees:  Attached FileWhat Sionyx sees:  Attached FileThere's a bridge out there that's about a mile from my house. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 7:22:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: GroundhogOZ]
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Nice work - looks good, do you know what shutter speed you used? Try specific shutter speeds under manual :)
1/60 = 60fps = 60Hz etc 1/30 = 30fps 1/15 = 15fps 1/7.5 = 7.5fps 1/4 = 4fps 1/2 = 2fps |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 7:24:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: GroundhogOZ]
[#28]
 The photo above is in NL5 conditions - could not see my hand in front of my face. 2FPS, HDR OFF, gain 0. Photo taken inside building - building is beneath significant tree canopy. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 10:45:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GroundhogOZ: Nice work - looks good, do you know what shutter speed you used? Try specific shutter speeds under manual :) 1/60 = 60fps = 60Hz etc 1/30 = 30fps 1/15 = 15fps 1/7.5 = 7.5fps 1/4 = 4fps 1/2 = 2fps I think it's just on auto. The pic looks worse than what I see through the view finder. I was most impressed that I figured out the wifi connection and got it transferred to my phone. I'm no photographer. 
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Posted: 1/20/2021 2:39:38 PM EDT
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Got my Sport in yesterday. Was amazed at actually how good it was out of the box. Need to play with some settings now.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:31:53 PM EDT
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Can someone tell me what this is? LED light? Tiny IR illuminator? I looked through the owners manual didn't see it mentioned. Haven't noticed it turn on based on any actions I've taken.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 6:07:24 PM EDT
[#32]
rec light
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Posted: 1/20/2021 6:40:00 PM EDT
[#33]
Alright. I think it is time to jump into the NV game. I have a cheap ATAirsoft airsoft helmet with a mount on the front.
There doesn't seem to he much of an improvement from the Sport to the black that would make that jump worth it. I kinda want the pro but might wait a little longer. 1k is hard to swallow at the moment. So with the sport, I would need the bridge: https://www.etsy.com/listing/869498209/sionyx-aurora-bridge-for-helmet-mounting?show_sold_out_detail=1&ref=nla_listing_details Then the helmet mount: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B082MBWZB4/ref=cm_sw_r_u_apa_fabc_89kcGb5X9DSF4?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 This would get me up and running, correct? I plan on grabbing a cheap IR light and then trying to find a decent IR laser. I really wish this didn't come in just white. Looks like I will be breaking out the camo duct tape. I'll be looking to upgrade to the pro in a few months when funds allow and I can actually find one not at full retail. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 6:48:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gaspain: I updated my firmware on my Sport, I think it is easily 10-15% better at sensitivity now. Nice! Gonna check mine for an update! |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 7:23:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JoeJeeps]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gaspain: rec light So what turns that on and off? |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 9:07:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoeJeeps: So what turns that on and off? record button
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Posted: 1/20/2021 9:16:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gaspain: record button I thought maybe it was a "receiving" light sensor thingy. Record makes more sense.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 9:19:39 PM EDT
[#38]
What does everyone set brightness to? Is that better on low/medium or is auto fine?
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Posted: 1/20/2021 9:25:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JoeJeeps]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Walleyeguy24: Alright. I think it is time to jump into the NV game. I have a cheap ATAirsoft airsoft helmet with a mount on the front. There doesn't seem to he much of an improvement from the Sport to the black that would make that jump worth it. I kinda want the pro but might wait a little longer. 1k is hard to swallow at the moment. So with the sport, I would need the bridge: https://www.etsy.com/listing/869498209/sionyx-aurora-bridge-for-helmet-mounting?show_sold_out_detail=1&ref=nla_listing_details Then the helmet mount: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B082MBWZB4/ref=cm_sw_r_u_apa_fabc_89kcGb5X9DSF4?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 This would get me up and running, correct? I plan on grabbing a cheap IR light and then trying to find a decent IR laser. I really wish this didn't come in just white. Looks like I will be breaking out the camo duct tape. I'll be looking to upgrade to the pro in a few months when funds allow and I can actually find one not at full retail. @Walleyeguy24 Yes, that should get you up and running. This mount would probably allow you to get a little closer to your eye with the Wilcox, but I think either will work. There's no way I could stick with the white Aurora Sport. Lots of good paint jobs in this thread. ETA: Another in stock option: https://www.etsy.com/listing/736736031/irmount-mk1c-adaptive-mount-fits-all?ref=shop_home_active_3&crt=1 |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 12:16:33 AM EDT
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So some advice please ...
This is the helmet I have :  Am I going to be good with either a Notoros Rhino II ( dovetail or converted with an AKA2 ) , or an L4 G24 , and gaspain's MK2 mount ? I see the posts about the angle and the helmet type and not sure where I stand ... Appreciate any input . |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 12:28:26 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Doodles: Awesome! What's the new version #? the app doesn't seem interested in updating anything.
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Posted: 1/21/2021 4:31:27 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DieselII: So some advice please ... This is the helmet I have : https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/256381/opscore_A14782_multicam-1-1789207.jpg Am I going to be good with either a Notoros Rhino II ( dovetail or converted with an AKA2 ) , or an L4 G24 , and gaspain's MK2 mount ? I see the posts about the angle and the helmet type and not sure where I stand ... Appreciate any input . looks okay, but I don't know what helmet that is....so maybe probably |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 4:32:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 135Patriots: +1 to this question for the latest Sport firmware. I'm on 1.0 and feel like I'm taking crazy pills with all this new FW talk the app doesn't seem interested in updating anything.I dunno, just connect via the app...it did not tell me what version. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 6:09:17 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 135Patriots: +1 to this question for the latest Sport firmware. I'm on 1.0 and feel like I'm taking crazy pills with all this new FW talk the app doesn't seem interested in updating anything.you have to have the aurora connected to the app - then you can check and update the firmware from the app. It takes about 20 seconds. Then you have to switch the aurora off and then back on to reboot. Current firmware version is 1.32. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 9:07:30 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gaspain: looks okay, but I don't know what helmet that is....so maybe probably Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gaspain: Originally Posted By DieselII: So some advice please ... This is the helmet I have : https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/256381/opscore_A14782_multicam-1-1789207.jpg Am I going to be good with either a Notoros Rhino II ( dovetail or converted with an AKA2 ) , or an L4 G24 , and gaspain's MK2 mount ? I see the posts about the angle and the helmet type and not sure where I stand ... Appreciate any input . looks okay, but I don't know what helmet that is....so maybe probably It's an Ops-Core Fast Bump High Cut - just not sure if this falls in the ballistic helmet category or air soft style ? |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 9:13:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DieselII: Shit sorry .... It's an Ops-Core Fast Bump High Cut - just not sure if this falls in the ballistic helmet category or air soft style ? Its what is known as a bump helmet - basically good for climbing, whitewater and jumping (if its a real OPS Core). Ballistic helmets don't have water release holes/breathers |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 10:08:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GroundhogOZ: Its what is known as a bump helmet - basically good for climbing, whitewater and jumping (if its a real OPS Core). Ballistic helmets don't have water release holes/breathers Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GroundhogOZ: Originally Posted By DieselII: Shit sorry .... It's an Ops-Core Fast Bump High Cut - just not sure if this falls in the ballistic helmet category or air soft style ? Its what is known as a bump helmet - basically good for climbing, whitewater and jumping (if its a real OPS Core). Ballistic helmets don't have water release holes/breathers Anyone with a similar please chime in . |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 11:10:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Praimfiya]
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 135Patriots: +1 to this question for the latest Sport firmware. I'm on 1.0 and feel like I'm taking crazy pills with all this new FW talk the app doesn't seem interested in updating anything.Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 135Patriots: Originally Posted By Doodles: Awesome! What's the new version #? the app doesn't seem interested in updating anything.@135Patriots Version 1.32 |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 11:16:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Praimfiya]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By @: Shit sorry .... It's an Ops-Core Fast Bump High Cut - just not sure if this falls in the ballistic helmet category or air soft style ? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By @: Originally Posted By gaspain: Originally Posted By DieselII: So some advice please ... This is the helmet I have : https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/256381/opscore_A14782_multicam-1-1789207.jpg Am I going to be good with either a Notoros Rhino II ( dovetail or converted with an AKA2 ) , or an L4 G24 , and gaspain's MK2 mount ? I see the posts about the angle and the helmet type and not sure where I stand ... Appreciate any input . looks okay, but I don't know what helmet that is....so maybe probably It's an Ops-Core Fast Bump High Cut - just not sure if this falls in the ballistic helmet category or air soft style ? @DieselII Like Gaspain mentioned, it is a bump helmet, not a ballistic. It will work fine. With it being a Genuine Ops Core Fast HC, the Airsoft equivalent is the BJ Helmet - which a ton of people utilize with Auroras and works with both the RHNO2 and LG24 and Gaspain's mount. Just for reference - what I posted back on Page 90 BJ helmets have the pointed vent holes with molded shroud PJ helmets have the oval vent holes with removable shroud MH helmets have no vent holes with a removable shroud BJ is based on the Ops Core Fast Bump HC PJ is based on the Ops Core Fast Carbon HC MH is based on the Ops Core Fast XP HC ballistic You also have the Maritime (airsoft) helmet (4 slots on the rear ARC rail) which is based on the Ops Core Fast SF Super Hight Cut ballistic (originally called the MT Super High Cut). |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 12:49:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GroundhogOZ: you have to have the aurora connected to the app - then you can check and update the firmware from the app. It takes about 20 seconds. Then you have to switch the aurora off and then back on to reboot. Current firmware version is 1.32. Here's what I've done 1. Turn on wifi on the Aurora 2. Open mobile app (Android) and "find" the Aurora, then connect to it 3. Go to the home screen of the app I can see what FW it's on, but I don't get any notification about an update, nor do I see any toggle or screen for updating. This seems to follow the Sionyx instructions but clearly I'm doing something wrong. What am I missing here? |
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