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Posted: 7/21/2018 11:10:23 PM EDT
Hello all,
I am planning on building a semi auto M3 grease gun. I have decided to gut an Ares airsoft M3 Grease Gun and somehow come up with a way to have hammer fired internals. Drawing inspiration from the Valkyrie Arms design, I might use a modified Ar15 hammer, trigger and disconnector. It has a full steel body that is stamped and welded. Heres some pictures of the Ares airsoft gun   Anyone have any advice on this?
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Posted: 7/22/2018 12:07:12 AM EDT
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My only advice would be what type of steel are they using and is it heat treated.
I know someone around me build .22lr guns out of airsoft rifles. He's built some Assault Rifles and a couple of MGs. All 10 round mags of course and in .22lr 
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Posted: 7/22/2018 1:02:16 AM EDT
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How does one determine the type of steel?
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Posted: 7/22/2018 1:03:03 AM EDT
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How does one determine the type of steel?
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Posted: 7/22/2018 1:19:26 AM EDT
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How does one determine the type of steel? If it's flowing and throwing massive sparks, like a sparkler on the 4th of July, mild steel. If it's throwing sparks but not like a sparkler, it's medium carbon steel. If it's throwing fine sparks it's high carbon steel. |
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Posted: 7/22/2018 2:27:19 PM EDT
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Can mild steel be used with a proper heat treatment?
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Posted: 7/22/2018 3:34:59 PM EDT
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Can mild steel be used with a proper heat treatment? However its a bit more complicated than just that. I looked into doing a grease gun build a long time ago. This was before the metal airsoft guns were out though. I'll see if I can dig up my links |
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Posted: 7/22/2018 3:45:57 PM EDT
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Hello all, I am planning on building a semi auto M3 grease gun. I have decided to gut an Ares airsoft M3 Grease Gun and somehow come up with a way to have hammer fired internals. Drawing inspiration from the Valkyrie Arms design, I might use a modified Ar15 hammer, trigger and disconnector. It has a full steel body that is stamped and welded. Heres some pictures of the Ares airsoft gun https://www.popularairsoft.com/files/images/ares_greasegun_lwa.jpghttp://www.airsoft-squared.com/resources/review/1324294678758.jpg Anyone have any advice on this? |
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Posted: 7/22/2018 3:51:24 PM EDT
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The spark test:
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Posted: 7/22/2018 5:43:17 PM EDT
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Thanks for the replies guys. It will be a while before I can get to this project as I’m deployed, but I think it’s very doable. If nothing else, I can determine if the company could perhaps make 80% unwelded shells and reunions from proper materials
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Posted: 7/22/2018 6:17:08 PM EDT
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Thanks for the replies guys. It will be a while before I can get to this project as I'm deployed, but I think it's very doable. If nothing else, I can determine if the company could perhaps make 80% unwelded shells and reunions from proper materials Now with that said....you can DIY this if you should so desire. Won't be 100% accurate in the historical sense but after looking at multiple pictures of them I feel confident enough in my metal fabrication skills that I could probably replicate it. Would take a lot of time in the shop but it's doable if someone really wants one. |
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Posted: 7/22/2018 6:34:48 PM EDT
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A few guys on weapons guild have done them with the airsoft shell. the thing with the m3 is the outer shell really doesn't have any contact with the bolt. it rides on the two rails inside the gun suspended by the end cap and the trunnion.
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Posted: 7/22/2018 10:41:36 PM EDT
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OP, Join Weapons Guild, they are a Builders site with tons of info, they have a grease gun dedicated forum with lots of builds and info.
Time you get back you'll be all schooled up! 
ETA: Grabbed this photo from a thread there about Prexis kits for building from the airsoft gun.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 5:24:05 PM EDT
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Holy crap that’s perfect! Off to weapons Guild I go....
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Posted: 7/24/2018 10:00:34 AM EDT
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I like weapons guild, lots of "builders" there. But WBZ is a little better. Less traffic, but more experience.
I have lots of parts kits in boxes waiting on time and money. I like "real" builds. More pics please 
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Posted: 7/24/2018 10:18:29 AM EDT
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Good on you for avoiding 'open bolt.'
BATFE does not like to see that design used. Many are all to easy to alter to full auto. |
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Posted: 7/25/2018 11:30:11 AM EDT
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I like weapons guild, lots of "builders" there. But WBZ is a little better. Less traffic, but more experience. I have lots of parts kits in boxes waiting on time and money. I like "real" builds. More pics please |
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Posted: 7/25/2018 2:56:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Invite-only, from what I understand. Your post might actually be the only positive thing I've read about them so far. |
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Posted: 7/25/2018 3:07:00 PM EDT
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Invite-only, from what I understand. Your post might actually be the only positive thing I've read about them so far. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I like weapons guild, lots of "builders" there. But WBZ is a little better. Less traffic, but more experience. I have lots of parts kits in boxes waiting on time and money. I like "real" builds. More pics please Next time I logged on my account was restricted for low post count or some such, wasn’t my kind of place. I post when I have something to say. I do like Weapons Guild though. |
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Posted: 7/25/2018 6:51:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good on you for avoiding 'open bolt.'
BATFE does not like to see that design used. Many are all to easy to alter to full auto. |
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Posted: 7/25/2018 7:07:50 PM EDT
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Yeah, they restricted it via rulings beginning in 1982 (ATF 82-2, ATF 82-8, ATF 83-5) and it wasn't good for us.
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Posted: 7/25/2018 7:45:07 PM EDT
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You say that as if it were a bad thing. BATFE prohibited by regulation new semi-auto open bolts in the 70/80's as another step to infringe on our 2nd Amendment rights. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Good on you for avoiding 'open bolt.'
BATFE does not like to see that design used. Many are all to easy to alter to full auto. YOU added the infnrgment issue. I never mentioned anything about it. How deep is your wallet? Do you plan to retire and not starve? |
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Posted: 7/26/2018 12:21:14 PM EDT
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Cool idea and like some have said I think the shell could be used
if anything I am going to buy the airsoft gun to shoot in my basement lol |
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