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Posted: 5/23/2022 5:15:17 PM EDT
Gent’s,
Between these 2, which would you recommend? Looking for a dedicated 22lr plinking AR style rifle for practice (not interested in a 22lr conversion kit for my regular AR’s). Tired of shooting up my 5.56 reserves with prices still being outrageously inflated.  Thanks in advance!  
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Posted: 5/23/2022 5:23:37 PM EDT
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15-22 I have runs like a top. More traditional controls / parts.
Buddy has the HK. Nice but it is bulky. We put in a trigger kit on the HK and that was painful. I have an older Tac Sol upper that runs circles around both of them. CMMG makes some nice uppers as well if you just want to push two pins. |
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Posted: 5/23/2022 5:59:35 PM EDT
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I think one of the big questions is, can you find magazines for the HK? Maybe maybe not. The S&W is more likely to have magazines available or at least a shorter wait time to find some.
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Posted: 5/23/2022 6:09:20 PM EDT
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If you are trying to train for reps, do it with whatever gun you normally shoot. If you don't have a 416 in 5.56 I don't really see a reason to choose that option unless you're just looking for a fun gun.
The 15-22 is a great gun and can be heavily customized to your liking. |
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Posted: 5/23/2022 6:39:56 PM EDT
[#4]
Just here to vote S&W
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Posted: 5/23/2022 7:03:26 PM EDT
[#5]
I have a Tippmann M4-22 and really like it. Something to consider.
I think they sell for around $550 retail. The Elite below has a forged aluminum lower, upper and handguard. Pretty quality piece. https://tippmannarms.com/tippmann-arms-m4-22-elite-tactical-rifle/ |
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Posted: 5/23/2022 7:14:32 PM EDT
[#6]
Build a dedicated upper, use lowers you already have
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Posted: 5/23/2022 8:20:51 PM EDT
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My youngest has a 15-22. He loves it...he'll send a couple boxes of ammo down range before I even get his older brother through his first mag.
Easy on his fingers to reload, nice mags. Accurate enough, though the red-dot his came with requires the battery to be pulled or it drains itself. |
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Posted: 5/23/2022 8:53:07 PM EDT
[#8]
Neither. Tippmann M4-22 instead.
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Posted: 5/24/2022 10:44:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just here to vote S&W THIS. I have a 15-22 pistol and it’s been great. My CMMG conversion unit has been idle since I got it. |
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Posted: 5/24/2022 12:34:42 PM EDT
[#10]
I have the pistol version of both. Like the 15-22 more because it is easier to breakdown and clean.
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Posted: 5/24/2022 3:53:14 PM EDT
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Gotta go S&W on this one.
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Posted: 5/25/2022 2:19:56 PM EDT
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Thanks for all the feedback. Heading to my LGS this weekend to pick one up…depending on what they have in stock.
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Posted: 5/25/2022 2:34:07 PM EDT
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I had two HK's. A rifle and a pistol. They don't take aftermarket grips that well, the trigger assembly is a nightmare and the barrel is just a thin steel liner. They also require a weird adaptor to mount a can but it does come with it. If you just want to shoot it bone stock its ok. Mine both worked fine but I never really was that excited about them.
I sold them both and bought a Tippmann Arms M4-22 Elite Pistol that is better in every way. Easy to swap furniture and it takes regular AR triggers and safeties. I have a Larue and BAD ambi in mine. Also it has a real barrel that is threaded 1/2-28 so its easy to suppress. It is an all metal gun. I like it so much I did a Form 1 on it so it is a keeper. I have owned Smiths a long time ago but I'm not up on their current version so I can't speak to them. After owning the Tippmann it is what I recommend to everyone. 
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Posted: 5/25/2022 2:34:37 PM EDT
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I have 2 of the S&W’s and they are awesome, will even run subsonic ammo with a can.
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Posted: 5/25/2022 7:13:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I had two HK's. A rifle and a pistol. They don't take aftermarket grips that well, the trigger assembly is a nightmare and the barrel is just a thin steel liner. They also require a weird adaptor to mount a can but it does come with it. If you just want to shoot it bone stock its ok. Mine both worked fine but I never really was that excited about them. I sold them both and bought a Tippmann Arms M4-22 Elite Pistol that is better in every way. Easy to swap furniture and it takes regular AR triggers and safeties. I have a Larue and BAD ambi in mine. Also it has a real barrel that is threaded 1/2-28 so its easy to suppress. It is an all metal gun. I like it so much I did a Form 1 on it so it is a keeper. I have owned Smiths a long time ago but I'm not up on their current version so I can't speak to them. After owning the Tippmann it is what I recommend to everyone. https://i.imgur.com/i6KX26Bl.jpg Yeah, I think the Tippman is as close to an actual AR as you can get. VERY accurate as well. |
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Posted: 5/26/2022 8:42:02 AM EDT
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Another thing to consider - by using a dedicated 22LR upper, you are using the stock (cheek weld), grip, safety & trigger of the gun you are practicing for.
If that isn't a major concern, I'd vote Tippman in 1st place, S&W in 2nd - and I don't care about third!  Have a good weekend. |
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Posted: 5/28/2022 6:57:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks for all the feedback. Heading to my LGS this weekend to pick one up…depending on what they have in stock. So, what did you wind up getting? |
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Posted: 5/28/2022 9:53:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, what did you wind up getting? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Thanks for all the feedback. Heading to my LGS this weekend to pick one up…depending on what they have in stock. So, what did you wind up getting? Ended up with the HK 416 and picked up some HK branded mags as well.  Hopefully, I’ll be hitting the range tomorrow or, Monday. 
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Posted: 5/28/2022 10:36:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ended up with the HK 416 and picked up some HK branded mags as well. https://i.imgur.com/xxOKilD.jpg Hopefully, I’ll be hitting the range tomorrow or, Monday. Nice!! Happy shooting!! |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 7:56:36 PM EDT
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S&W all the way.
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Posted: 5/29/2022 9:40:33 PM EDT
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I looked and compared, settled with the S&W pistol and I love it.
Got 5 magazines and a Romeo5 on it and it is fun to shoot. The magazines are robust and easy to clean if ever necessary. As much as I love My 10/22 rifle, bullpup and take-down, the MP15 22 is a kick in the pants, lightweight and really accurate for a little rig. |
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