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12/10/2020 11:26:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By N_Parker:

Pass... I have had my own issues with F5 drums and others have reported issues as well on the FB page.
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Noted, thank you. I'll pass too.
12/11/2020 3:51:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By beanz2:


I'm in the same situation, wanting to see what others experience before I jump in.

I know how the internet tends to magnify issues that only a few have experienced, but how many A3 owners have had the recall done and are happy with theirs?

Anyone wish they had just kept the old parts and watch their receivers closely instead of doing the voluntary upgrade?

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I wish I kept my stock parts.  My A3 was trouble free prior and now I have issues with the "upgraded" parts.  I wish I could get my original parts back.  

If I were you I would just shoot and enjoy it.  Only if you have issues would I send it in.  

It's sad because the gun is such a pleasure to shoot but this whole process has been a cluster of the highest order.
12/11/2020 4:09:44 PM EDT
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Flawless operation. That said, I don't run trash ammo. Only full power brass cased 124 grain.
12/11/2020 4:11:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bad-Karma:


I wish I kept my stock parts.  My A3 was trouble free prior and now I have issues with the "upgraded" parts.  I wish I could get my original parts back.  

If I were you I would just shoot and enjoy it.  Only if you have issues would I send it in.  

It's sad because the gun is such a pleasure to shoot but this whole process has been a cluster of the highest order.
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I sent mine down and they delivered 11/16, been almost a month. Hope they don't forget to send my roller back as well.
12/11/2020 5:15:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mr_Maim][Edited] [#5]
I filled out the RMA form yesterday and received shipping labels (two, one USPS one FedEx, each with it's own different RMA number) and now I'm hesitant to send back.


ETA: I asked G.O. why two labels and they replied immediately: USPS if just sending the parts, FedEx if sending the firearm.

ETA2: I also asked what parts to send and G.O. Support included a PDF showing the bolt and the locking piece. Nothing else.

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12/11/2020 5:16:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bad-Karma:


I wish I kept my stock parts.  My A3 was trouble free prior and now I have issues with the "upgraded" parts.  I wish I could get my original parts back.  

If I were you I would just shoot and enjoy it.  Only if you have issues would I send it in.  

It's sad because the gun is such a pleasure to shoot but this whole process has been a cluster of the highest order.
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What kind of problems are you having now? Feed? Ejection? FTF?
12/11/2020 5:27:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By czgunner:

Flawless operation. That said, I don't run trash ammo. Only full power brass cased 124 grain.
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How many rounds do you think you've shot with it? A few loads of the magazine?

Just trying to judge if the issues others have reported are from a single use of the drum, or after a bunch of uses.

Side note: I have several of the KCI 50-round drum mags for my Glocks and have never had a problem with them (despite reports to the contrary from others), so I'm willing to take a risk on one of these if I have a better understanding of the issues are that people have had. It is a young product.
12/11/2020 9:16:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mr_Maim:

What kind of problems are you having now? Feed? Ejection? FTF?
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The bolt seems to be catching on parts of the receiver.  First the LRBHO no longer worked, then I noticed I was starting to get resistance when pulling the charging handle back, emptied a mag with the suppressor on and it locked the bolt up completely after the last round fired.  Ironically it fed and fired everything except that one out of battery but clearly something is up.  Had to get the gun home to really yank on the charging handle to get the bolt to come back again.
12/12/2020 6:08:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bad-Karma:
The bolt seems to be catching on parts of the receiver.  First the LRBHO no longer worked, then I noticed I was starting to get resistance when pulling the charging handle back, emptied a mag with the suppressor on and it locked the bolt up completely after the last round fired.  Ironically it fed and fired everything except that one out of battery but clearly something is up.  Had to get the gun home to really yank on the charging handle to get the bolt to come back again.
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Originally Posted By Bad-Karma:
Originally Posted By Mr_Maim:

What kind of problems are you having now? Feed? Ejection? FTF?
The bolt seems to be catching on parts of the receiver.  First the LRBHO no longer worked, then I noticed I was starting to get resistance when pulling the charging handle back, emptied a mag with the suppressor on and it locked the bolt up completely after the last round fired.  Ironically it fed and fired everything except that one out of battery but clearly something is up.  Had to get the gun home to really yank on the charging handle to get the bolt to come back again.
Thank you for the updated. I'm going to shoot this one and see what happens (in terms of receiver damage).


Has anyone measured a bolt and bolt locker and posted dimensions, and done the same with the replacement parts? I have seen none.
12/12/2020 8:37:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mr_Maim:
Thank you for the updated. I'm going to shoot this one and see what happens (in terms of receiver damage).


Has anyone measured a bolt and bolt locker and posted dimensions, and done the same with the replacement parts? I have seen none.
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Originally Posted By Mr_Maim:
Originally Posted By Bad-Karma:
Originally Posted By Mr_Maim:

What kind of problems are you having now? Feed? Ejection? FTF?
The bolt seems to be catching on parts of the receiver.  First the LRBHO no longer worked, then I noticed I was starting to get resistance when pulling the charging handle back, emptied a mag with the suppressor on and it locked the bolt up completely after the last round fired.  Ironically it fed and fired everything except that one out of battery but clearly something is up.  Had to get the gun home to really yank on the charging handle to get the bolt to come back again.
Thank you for the updated. I'm going to shoot this one and see what happens (in terms of receiver damage).


Has anyone measured a bolt and bolt locker and posted dimensions, and done the same with the replacement parts? I have seen none.

I'll put calipers to my new parts when I get them back.
Maybe you'll need to remind me though
12/12/2020 9:01:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AROKIE:
from the sound of it the A1 gen 2 with the new mags is most reliable?
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Mine is.
Those who beat swords into plowshares usually end up plowing for those who don't. --Benjamin Franklin.
12/15/2020 9:51:45 PM EDT
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Another company jumps into the ring of lowers - ALH Precision
12/16/2020 3:11:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By hoothrewpoo:


I need that one to hit the market.
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It is good to see the option I would go with, using Colt SMG mags, but you would think ALH would have opted to design in an integral trigger guard. LOL

(Note, I have already decided the Stribog is not for me, so I really have no dog in this fight.)

Originally Posted By swingset:


Just head on down to your local "Shit Normal People Shouldn't Fuck Around With Supermart". Isle 3, next to the menstruating porcupine.
12/16/2020 5:04:39 PM EDT
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Thats not the worst thing I’ve seen all day
Gen 2 does need an integral trigger guard
I wouldn't stand in front of a piss-filled supersoaker. Does that make it a good pistol? - Caboose314
I thought I was covered for 22 cans, but the NFAids is a bitch when it mutates - themagikbullet
12/22/2020 1:34:48 PM EDT
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Just got my "upgraded" bolt and carrier for my A3. I also sent in the roller and I got it back. Parts look good and fit. Dry cycling feels good, haven't shot it yet.
12/23/2020 7:02:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By yamahawarrior89:
Just got my "upgraded" bolt and carrier for my A3. I also sent in the roller and I got it back. Parts look good and fit. Dry cycling feels good, haven't shot it yet.
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I sent my roller, it did not return
BCM uppers turn all projectiles into magical laser guided angels of death and destruction. --87GN
12/23/2020 11:03:03 PM EDT
[#18]
Will AR15 drop in triggers fit the Stribog.  I have an A1 that is near and dear to me but trigger is poor.
12/24/2020 12:27:24 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mindless:
Will AR15 drop in triggers fit the Stribog.  I have an A1 that is near and dear to me but trigger is poor.
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An ar-15 trigger group will not fit in an OEM stribog lower

Sven
Manticore Arms
Advanced Fighting Gear for the AR, AK, AUG, Tavor, and Scorpion EVO! www.manticorearms.com
12/24/2020 12:25:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Manticore_Arms:


An ar-15 trigger group will not fit in an OEM stribog lower

Sven
Manticore Arms
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Thanks Steve.
12/24/2020 4:50:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mindless:


Thanks Steve.
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Originally Posted By Mindless:
Originally Posted By Manticore_Arms:


An ar-15 trigger group will not fit in an OEM stribog lower

Sven
Manticore Arms


Thanks Steve.


AR triggers won’t drop in a Stribog.  There are folks who have made it work by opening the channel in the Stribog lower by about 1/8” and using shims since standard AR trigger groups are a bit too narrow.  
12/25/2020 12:23:11 AM EDT
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I was finally able to run my new steel lipped magazines through several cycles each. About 450 rounds of Winchester 115gr fmj fed flawlessly. Not one malfunction. The springs in these seem way more strong than the original ones.

My bog seems good to go now, so I ordered a second SP9A1 for spare parts if they get banned in the future. Ordered a SP9A3 to play around with while I was at it.

Those who beat swords into plowshares usually end up plowing for those who don't. --Benjamin Franklin.
12/26/2020 10:52:08 AM EDT
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Has anyone had an opportunity to put the Lingle or A3 Scorpion lowers through some testing?  I've seen a couple on FB, but not much.  Only one negative comment and I couldn't find the original post.
12/30/2020 6:35:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mchgnxj24:
Has anyone had an opportunity to put the Lingle or A3 Scorpion lowers through some testing?  I've seen a couple on FB, but not much.  Only one negative comment and I couldn't find the original post.
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Id like to get the Lingle but I'm holding out till they offer them in aluminum
12/30/2020 9:20:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mk4dubbin:


Id like to get the Lingle but I'm holding out till they offer them in aluminum
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Originally Posted By mk4dubbin:
Originally Posted By mchgnxj24:
Has anyone had an opportunity to put the Lingle or A3 Scorpion lowers through some testing?  I've seen a couple on FB, but not much.  Only one negative comment and I couldn't find the original post.


Id like to get the Lingle but I'm holding out till they offer them in aluminum


I’m with you. Aluminum all the way, as long as they don’t want $350 for it. Even the $200 for the 3D printed versions seems high for what it is, but I guess if it works reliably and proves to be robust, it would be worth it.
12/31/2020 9:35:34 PM EDT
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Hi all, I have a stribog coming but the serial number is GSA105XX.

The recall is for GSB10001 +

when did they go from K serial numbers to GSA? any insight?
12/31/2020 10:27:42 PM EDT
[#27]
Steel lipped mags in stock: https://dkfirearms.com/product/grand-power-stribog-9mm-steel-feed-lip-30-round-magazine/

Also on Global Ordnance.
12/31/2020 10:44:10 PM EDT
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Ok. After doing some research it appears the GSA prefixes were the last batch of blowback guns but with the correct recoil springs to better handle standard 9mm ammo.

It appears K model guns had the change from dual rod to single rod recoil systems but on some of those early single rod K guns the spring was too heavy thus creating FTE/FTF issues.

Anyone able to confirm this?
12/31/2020 11:08:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 04Vermont21:
Ok. After doing some research it appears the GSA prefixes were the last batch of blowback guns but with the correct recoil springs to better handle standard 9mm ammo.

It appears K model guns had the change from dual rod to single rod recoil systems but on some of those early single rod K guns the spring was too heavy thus creating FTE/FTF issues.

Anyone able to confirm this?
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Just a guess w/o doing any digging but the serial number prefix change when Global took over distribution?
1/1/2021 12:37:58 AM EDT
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No. When GO took over it was K prefixes
1/1/2021 12:48:07 AM EDT
[#31]
I've also determined that someone around GSA7500 they swapped out the standard trigger shoe for the flat face one
1/1/2021 9:26:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Vote4Cthulhu:
Steel lipped mags in stock: https://dkfirearms.com/product/grand-power-stribog-9mm-steel-feed-lip-30-round-magazine/

Also on Global Ordnance.
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Thanks! FYI DK is free shipping over $90
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1/1/2021 10:31:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By kanewtervalve:


Thanks! FYI DK is free shipping over $90
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Originally Posted By kanewtervalve:
Originally Posted By Vote4Cthulhu:
Steel lipped mags in stock: https://dkfirearms.com/product/grand-power-stribog-9mm-steel-feed-lip-30-round-magazine/

Also on Global Ordnance.


Thanks! FYI DK is free shipping over $90


And no tax
1/1/2021 11:32:08 AM EDT
[#34]
Picked up my extra A1 and first A3 yesterday. The flat triggers look cool.
Those who beat swords into plowshares usually end up plowing for those who don't. --Benjamin Franklin.
1/1/2021 1:29:48 PM EDT
[#35]
Just noticed my A3 Bog is just barely out of the recall range by double digits. Whew!
Those who beat swords into plowshares usually end up plowing for those who don't. --Benjamin Franklin.
1/1/2021 3:36:58 PM EDT
[#36]
I have a GSA serial A1 and it has the single recoil spring and flat trigger
1/1/2021 7:13:49 PM EDT
[#37]
How long did it take yall to get replacement A3 bolts and locking blocks?
1/1/2021 7:23:42 PM EDT
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Just noticed that Grandpower has modified the followers with the metal lipped magazines. They put a little bump on them and made them black again. Maybe to tilt the nose of the bullet up a little more.
Those who beat swords into plowshares usually end up plowing for those who don't. --Benjamin Franklin.
1/1/2021 9:10:17 PM EDT
[#39]
So, if someone was in the market for one, what would be the best choice? A2 or an a3 after a certain serial number range?
1/2/2021 8:32:17 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By HK45USER:
How long did it take yall to get replacement A3 bolts and locking blocks?
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I would have to look back to see for certain but I believe it was around two weeks.
1/3/2021 1:29:07 AM EDT
[#41]
Ordered a braced a3 from dkfirearms today. Hope it runs good and isn’t in the affected SN range.
1/3/2021 7:48:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Johnny_Rebo:
So, if someone was in the market for one, what would be the best choice? A2 or an a3 after a certain serial number range?
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  I just bought a post recall serial numbered A3 that came with revised steel lip black follower Mags that I guess will call version 2. Hopefully she runs good. I also have an A1 with the steel lipped orange follower version 1 Mags than runs good. I’ll be able to shoot it in a few weeks. Hopefully all the teething problems were addressed and I can then recommend the A3.
Those who beat swords into plowshares usually end up plowing for those who don't. --Benjamin Franklin.
1/3/2021 8:03:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By gaigeboyd:
Ordered a braced a3 from dkfirearms today. Hope it runs good and isn’t in the affected SN range.
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Good luck!
Those who beat swords into plowshares usually end up plowing for those who don't. --Benjamin Franklin.
1/3/2021 9:41:54 PM EDT
[#44]
I'm trying to decide right now if I want to buy a A1 or Scorpion.

Seeing the issues people had with the A3 it doesn't seem to be worth that gamble of getting new old stock
1/6/2021 10:59:46 AM EDT
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Does anyone have this brace? I think they have a straight and offset style. I just wanna hear some feedback from users. Mine will be coming with the SBT brace but I think I like the look of this.


1/6/2021 8:00:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By gaigeboyd:
Does anyone have this brace? I think they have a straight and offset style. I just wanna hear some feedback from users. Mine will be coming with the SBT brace but I think I like the look of this.

https://i.ibb.co/KNrjmYy/CDB6-CE59-10-EF-4-F40-936-B-FB9834-B5-C461.png
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Yep, had it on my Stribog. Super nice construction. Would not have anything else on one of these.  Just sold it and the Stribog the night before last.
1/6/2021 8:19:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PyratM:


Yep, had it on my Stribog. Super nice construction. Would not have anything else on one of these.  Just sold it and the Stribog the night before last.
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Do I need any special adapters if I was to order one of these? Or can I just take the SBT brace off and slide one of these on? I’m pretty excited I just got an email that it shipped today
1/6/2021 9:21:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By gaigeboyd:


Do I need any special adapters if I was to order one of these? Or can I just take the SBT brace off and slide one of these on? I’m pretty excited I just got an email that it shipped today
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Pretty sure the end cap is proprietary. But don’t fret because they come with the end cap you need.

https://a3-tactical-inc.myshopify.com/products/modular-side-folding-arm-brace-stribog?variant=32926522409021
1/9/2021 10:24:33 AM EDT
[#49]
Arrived today


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1/9/2021 8:41:21 PM EDT
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Nice. Serial number outside of their issues?

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