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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:00:50 PM EST
Thinking this would be a fun range toy. What's available to buy/build? Thanks.
Link Posted: 2/10/2018 1:42:06 PM EST
Link Posted: 2/10/2018 5:31:50 PM EST
I have to say it is a nice part by copper customs and worth the cost fit and finish are excellent the color on mine was a bit off but does not bother me in the slightest. I added it and the arm brace before I even shot it.
Link Posted: 2/10/2018 5:34:07 PM EST
I'm building one with a PMACA chassis, just waiting on my Gear Head Works mod2 to come in.
Link Posted: 2/10/2018 7:12:50 PM EST
i did mine with PMACA chassis and ACE folding stock adapter.  it's money.
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 12:09:08 AM EST
Chassis build

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Doesn't suck
Link Posted: 2/14/2018 8:29:43 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/18/2019 9:02:55 PM EST by HK_DUDE]
Changed the little one up a little. Not finished with the big one.

Things to add to the big one:

1. Medium size scope thinking the new $200 Leupold
3-9 x 40 rimfire model.

2. Probably a 1 piece offset mount. Maybe the Tac Sol mount.

3. I think I will be adding the carbon fiber handguard that PMACA has for $100. That handguard will stick past my barrel by about an inch.
Link Posted: 2/15/2018 8:41:23 PM EST
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Originally Posted By HK_DUDE:
Changed the little one up a little. Not finished with the big one.

Things to add to the big one:

1. Medium size scope thinking the new $200 Leupold
3-9 x 40 rimfire model.

2. Probably a 1 piece offset mount. Maybe the Tac Sol mount.

3. I think I will be adding the carbon fiber handguard that PMACA has for $100. That handguard will stick past my barrel by about an inch.

My modified DD pistol grips are very comfortable, have to decide if I want to trim the trigger guard back more or leave them as is....they look a little goofy now, but they are growing on me.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20180214_133323-451922.JPG
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Might want to think about that VFG...
Link Posted: 2/15/2018 8:57:09 PM EST
Its over 26"
Link Posted: 2/15/2018 9:18:50 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/15/2018 9:20:35 PM EST by joshv06]
Link Posted: 2/17/2018 11:31:44 PM EST
I have a Charger takedown with the green mtn stock and wanted a brace but didn’t want to lose the stock.

I had an SB47 brace in my parts bin which slips right between the grip and stock like an AK pistol. The rear taper of the factory stock slips in the opening of the stock tube. I replaced the A2 grip with a BCM gunfighter grip and cut the top down about 1/8” to account for the thickness of the SB bracket.

I replaced the SB rubber brace portion with a Shockwave blade and dimpled the tube, it’s a solid mount.
Link Posted: 2/18/2018 10:03:53 AM EST
Who makes a 10/22 takedown stock that will accept an AR buffer tube and shockwave blade?
Link Posted: 2/18/2018 10:05:32 AM EST
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Originally Posted By triburst1:
Who makes a 10/22 takedown stock that will accept an AR buffer tube and shockwave blade?
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PMACA......
Link Posted: 2/18/2018 10:16:59 AM EST
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Originally Posted By HK_DUDE:
Changed the little one up a little. Not finished with the big one.

Things to add to the big one:

1. Medium size scope thinking the new $200 Leupold
3-9 x 40 rimfire model.

2. Probably a 1 piece offset mount. Maybe the Tac Sol mount.

3. I think I will be adding the carbon fiber handguard that PMACA has for $100. That handguard will stick past my barrel by about an inch.

My modified DD pistol grips are very comfortable, have to decide if I want to trim the trigger guard back more or leave them as is....they look a little goofy now, but they are growing on me.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20180214_133323-451922.JPG
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20180214_132958-451925.JPG
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What brace is that?
Link Posted: 2/18/2018 10:18:09 AM EST
Gear head works Tail hook mod 1
Link Posted: 2/18/2018 12:01:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MadMardigan:
Might want to think about that VFG...
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Originally Posted By MadMardigan:
Originally Posted By HK_DUDE:
Changed the little one up a little. Not finished with the big one.

Things to add to the big one:

1. Medium size scope thinking the new $200 Leupold
3-9 x 40 rimfire model.

2. Probably a 1 piece offset mount. Maybe the Tac Sol mount.

3. I think I will be adding the carbon fiber handguard that PMACA has for $100. That handguard will stick past my barrel by about an inch.

My modified DD pistol grips are very comfortable, have to decide if I want to trim the trigger guard back more or leave them as is....they look a little goofy now, but they are growing on me.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20180214_133323-451922.JPG
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20180214_132958-451925.JPG
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20180214_132954-451927.JPG
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Might want to think about that VFG...
Link Posted: 2/18/2018 12:07:27 PM EST
It's over 26"
Link Posted: 2/18/2018 2:25:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By HK_DUDE:
Changed the little one up a little. Not finished with the big one.

Things to add to the big one:

1. Medium size scope thinking the new $200 Leupold
3-9 x 40 rimfire model.

2. Probably a 1 piece offset mount. Maybe the Tac Sol mount.

3. I think I will be adding the carbon fiber handguard that PMACA has for $100. That handguard will stick past my barrel by about an inch.

My modified DD pistol grips are very comfortable, have to decide if I want to trim the trigger guard back more or leave them as is....they look a little goofy now, but they are growing on me.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20180214_133323-451922.JPG
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20180214_132958-451925.JPG
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20180214_132954-451927.JPG
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@HK_DUDE

Can we get all the details for that can one! That one looks perfect!
Link Posted: 2/18/2018 2:38:17 PM EST
The Tan one:

1. PMACA muilt chassis
2. Standard ruger Charger pistol
3. SS .920" diameter barrel that I shortend to about 10".
4. American Built side folder assembly.
5. Damage Iindustries pistol buffer tube.
6. Gear head works Tail hook mod 1 brace.
7. Modified Daniel Defense pistol grip.

Standard mount rail and cheap rings.
Link Posted: 2/18/2018 7:50:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By HK_DUDE:
The Tan one:

1. PMACA muilt chassis
2. Standard ruger Charger pistol
3. SS .920" diameter barrel that I shortend to about 10".
4. American Built side folder assembly.
5. Damage Iindustries pistol buffer tube.
6. Gear head works Tail hook mod 1 brace.
7. Modified Daniel Defense pistol grip.

Standard mount rail and cheap rings.
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@HK_DUDE

Any reason why you used the american built side folder? It seem pretty expensive for what it is, unless i am overlooking something that it does better than others.

Also, what length and diameter pistol buffer tube did you use from damage industries?  As they sell several different versions.

Do you know about the exact length of the barrel as i was thinking of using the Kidd 10 inch barrel if it is long enough to be able to use a vertical grip
Link Posted: 2/19/2018 12:43:38 AM EST
Charger Takedown, Copper Custom adapter, KAK Shockwave Blade & tube and a GM-22.
Link Posted: 2/19/2018 8:25:14 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/19/2018 8:26:19 AM EST by HK_DUDE]
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Originally Posted By MDStroup:

@HK_DUDE

Any reason why you used the american built side folder? It seem pretty expensive for what it is, unless i am overlooking something that it does better than others.

Also, what length and diameter pistol buffer tube did you use from damage industries?  As they sell several different versions.

Do you know about the exact length of the barrel as i was thinking of using the Kidd 10 inch barrel if it is long enough to be able to use a vertical grip
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My barrel is 9 7/8" long....I didn't plan on that exact length, just kinda came out that way.

The pistol buffer tube is the one with the QD swivel pocket built in and is the smaller 1.190" diameter. It fits the talhook nicely, but may be a little small for a SB tactical type brace. It seems to be about 7.25" overall. I didn't take t apart to get an exact length.

I like the Hera Arms SFU and the American built folder. The american built one locks in both positions and I like that...not a necessity, but a nice perk.

I like the quality of the machining, the finish is very nice and they seem very well made. These PMACA chassis are nice enough to deserve the nicer hinge...in my opinion.

The length of the hinge also helps get me to my 26+" OAL. I don't even know if the VFG will stay there, but want to try it. It may be replaced with a small light weight folding bipod once I get the scope on it.
Link Posted: 2/19/2018 3:46:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/19/2018 3:55:12 PM EST by MDStroup]
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Originally Posted By HK_DUDE:

My barrel is 9 7/8" long....I didn't plan on that exact length, just kinda came out that way.

The pistol buffer tube is the one with the QD swivel pocket built in and is the smaller 1.190" diameter. It fits the talhook nicely, but may be a little small for a SB tactical type brace. It seems to be about 7.25" overall. I didn't take t apart to get an exact length.

I like the Hera Arms SFU and the American built folder. The american built one locks in both positions and I like that...not a necessity, but a nice perk.

I like the quality of the machining, the finish is very nice and they seem very well made. These PMACA chassis are nice enough to deserve the nicer hinge...in my opinion.

The length of the hinge also helps get me to my 26+" OAL. I don't even know if the VFG will stay there, but want to try it. It may be replaced with a small light weight folding bipod once I get the scope on it.
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@HK_DUDE

Thanks man! It is a big help. I don't want you to feel like i am trying to rip off your build! I have been trying to build something almost exactly like that for a while now. But no one had that combo of parts.  Now i jut need someone to make something similar but with the PMACA Long nose chassis, possibly with an atlas bipod and a vert grip on at the same time.

I was originally thinking of actually using the PWS Summit action with a short 1-9 twist barrel. Just dont know what scope would go well with that combo.
Link Posted: 2/19/2018 3:51:09 PM EST
No problem, I actually set out ro use the long nose for this longer build, but could never find one in stock, unless I wanted gold or red.
Link Posted: 2/19/2018 3:53:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By HK_DUDE:
No problem, I actually set out ro use the long nose for this longer build, but could never find one in stock, unless I wanted gold or red.
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If you ever do get it let me know! I definitely want to see it!
Link Posted: 2/23/2018 3:03:23 PM EST
In case anyone is interested.  I added the CF handguard and a budget scope to my "long" build.

Done now,  unless the scope sucks;)

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Link Posted: 5/12/2018 10:49:01 AM EST
Built this up last night. Standard Charged with a Copper Custom brace adapter and a SB mini brace, with a Magpul moe-k grip.
I painted the "stock" myself.

Link Posted: 5/13/2018 11:30:56 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/13/2018 12:28:57 PM EST by emt322636]
@HK_DUDE

What is the muzzle device on your shorter, all black charger?  Top one in the first set of pics?
Link Posted: 5/13/2018 8:50:49 PM EST
That is a KAK micro slimline flash can.
Link Posted: 5/13/2018 9:10:56 PM EST
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That is a KAK micro slimline flash can.
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Thanks!
Link Posted: 5/13/2018 9:13:01 PM EST
I will have to take new pics, I have changed them up quite a bit.
Link Posted: 5/14/2018 7:58:57 AM EST
My takedown model uses a Hera Arms folding stock unit mated to a Copper Custom AR buffer tube adapter. The gun, 4 25rd mags, the factory 15rd mag, a 10rd mag all fit into a Cabela's deluxe double handgun case, with 600rds in the 2 pockets on the front.


Link Posted: 5/14/2018 8:29:52 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Zardoz:
My takedown model uses a Hera Arms folding stock unit mated to a Copper Custom AR buffer tube adapter. The gun, 4 25rd mags, the factory 15rd mag, a 10rd mag all fit into a Cabela's deluxe double handgun case, with 600rds in the 2 pockets on the front.
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That is awesome!
Link Posted: 5/14/2018 9:09:14 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/14/2018 9:15:08 AM EST by eric10mm]
Link Posted: 5/14/2018 9:14:46 AM EST
So all the AR pistols that are over 26" with vertical front grips are illegal? Crazy.

P.S. I have moved actions and reconfigured both, the longer barrel one is now in a long nose chassis with a bipod, no more front grip. Not that it was wrong anyway, just doesn't make sense in its new configuration.

Let it go everyone

Don't worry, be happy.
Link Posted: 5/14/2018 9:16:24 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/25/2018 4:42:03 AM EST by eric10mm]
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 9:19:29 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/15/2018 9:20:07 AM EST by Will]
I'm thinking of building a take down pistol with brace....BUT, how well do the TD models shoot? In looking over at RFC, it seems that the accuracy is all over the map- and mostly not all that good....

I'm going to build one, it's just a matter of whether it's a TD or on a Standard Charger....
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 9:41:14 AM EST
@HK_DUDE
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Not to beat any horses or cause a craze, I just wanted everyone to be aware of something.
The Freedom Shoppe, in CT, was raided by ATF. It seems they're changing their tune and saying OAL is measured with stock folded because of "Firearms meeting the definition of “any other weapon” are weapons or devices capable of being concealed on the person from which a shot can be discharged through the energy of an explosive."
I know, I know, they've always said it's from most extended position.
Obviously, we want to wait for anything official, but, like I said, I just wanted to let everyone know.
The ATF already started "collecting" (confiscating) firearms purchased from said FFL.

This all started because of some fudd FFL in Vermont.
Link Posted: 5/16/2018 10:35:31 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/16/2018 10:35:52 AM EST by HK_DUDE]
Updated photos, incase I can inspire someone;)

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I sold my original standard chassis to a buddy recently. These are a multi chassis and a long nose.
Link Posted: 5/16/2018 12:46:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/16/2018 12:48:07 PM EST by Will]
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Originally Posted By HK_DUDE:
Updated photos, incase I can inspire someone;)

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20180516_103154-545652.JPG

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20180516_102935-545653.JPG

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I sold my original standard chassis to a buddy recently. These are a multi chassis and a long nose.
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I ordered a synthetic takedown Charger this morning. Not sure how I intend to "finish" it out yet...I am probably going to go the Copper Custom route and the American folder. I need to decide what brace I want to use with it. I don't think I will go with the PMACA chassis- I have an SBR that will likely get one though....

I will have my gunsmith cut the barrel on this new Charger and rethread it right in front of the factory hand guard. He does it for free, so, Why Not? Shorter is better generally when it comes to suppression/velocity reduction.....

See how it goes. I have a pile of ANPVS 7 cases and will mod one of those to fit whatever configuration I end up with, there is plenty of room. I bought a bunch of them for $10 apiece at a gunshow many years ago, built hell for stout.....might as well use what I have.
Link Posted: 5/16/2018 6:54:50 PM EST
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Originally Posted By HK_DUDE:
PMACA......
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Originally Posted By HK_DUDE:
Originally Posted By triburst1:
Who makes a 10/22 takedown stock that will accept an AR buffer tube and shockwave blade?
PMACA......
Yes PMACA.  There is a thread in this sub-forum.  Edit.  HERE:

https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/PMACA-10-22-chassis-SBR-build/11-480262/
Link Posted: 5/16/2018 10:10:02 PM EST
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Originally Posted By HK_DUDE:
Updated photos, incase I can inspire someone;)

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20180516_103154-545652.JPG

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20180516_102935-545653.JPG

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20180516_102957-545654.JPG

I sold my original standard chassis to a buddy recently. These are a multi chassis and a long nose.
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What kind of magazine is the long one?
Link Posted: 5/17/2018 12:41:35 AM EST
What is best price and seller for the Hera or American Built folder? I expect my charger takedown to arrive this week and want to get going on parts for the brace.

No one makes a collapsing brace that would fit the charger via some adapter, do they?
Link Posted: 5/17/2018 7:18:11 AM EST
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What kind of magazine is the long one?
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Originally Posted By HK_DUDE:
Updated photos, incase I can inspire someone;)

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20180516_103154-545652.JPG

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20180516_102935-545653.JPG

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20180516_102957-545654.JPG

I sold my original standard chassis to a buddy recently. These are a multi chassis and a long nose.
What kind of magazine is the long one?
That is a 25rd Promag.
Link Posted: 5/24/2018 11:07:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By User55645:
@HK_DUDE

Not to beat any horses or cause a craze, I just wanted everyone to be aware of something.
The Freedom Shoppe, in CT, was raided by ATF. It seems they're changing their tune and saying OAL is measured with stock folded because of "Firearms meeting the definition of “any other weapon” are weapons or devices capable of being concealed on the person from which a shot can be discharged through the energy of an explosive."
I know, I know, they've always said it's from most extended position.
Obviously, we want to wait for anything official, but, like I said, I just wanted to let everyone know.
The ATF already started "collecting" (confiscating) firearms purchased from said FFL.

This all started because of some fudd FFL in Vermont.
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This nonsense by the ATF makes my head hurt.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/05/24/oal-brace-folded/
Link Posted: 5/27/2018 7:00:45 PM EST
so a pistol, born naturally as a pistol, and remaining a pistol, must now be over 26" long?
Link Posted: 5/27/2018 7:36:10 PM EST
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I'm building one with a PMACA chassis, just waiting on my Gear Head Works mod2 to come in.
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This is what I did.
Link Posted: 8/15/2018 3:47:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/15/2018 3:54:52 PM EST by Warhawk]
Here’s my Charger with a brace build.  Picked up the Charger yesterday and just now put it together. I think I need some kind of space or washer between the castle nut and stock adapter, any ideas?

I used the eBay knockoff stock adapter, with Kak shockwave tube and kak brace I already had. I also found that tiny grip in my junk box.  It’s marked CBIR over a T, Troy?  The optic is a Sightmark Zomie with a green reticle. I have one just like it on my 10/22 TD that has been great.


Link Posted: 8/19/2018 2:39:56 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/19/2018 2:43:16 PM EST by goalieMN]
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It's awesome.  I've ditched the Shockwave for an adjustable brace, and the form-1 can has been replaced with a Dead Air Mask. The red dot is also on a riser

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It's awesome.  I've ditched the Shockwave for an adjustable brace, and the form-1 can has been replaced with a Dead Air Mask. The red dot is also on a riser

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Which version of the PMACA chassis is that?  Is the action pretty solid in it?  I read over on RC that you may want to add a rear tang to the action, as it may “see-saw” in the chassis.
Link Posted: 8/19/2018 4:01:06 PM EST
Copper Customs brace adapter showed up yesterday

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