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I am about to put together a bolt gun chambered in 300 BK. Barrel length will be 8-9”. I will be shooting subs exclusively. What can is quietest? Size and weight are way down the list of concerns. Obviously, back pressure is obviously not an issue. |
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Originally Posted By bluedog82: PTR Vent 1 seems to be a good option. I would think that the DDC Enticer L Ti would be good; my STi definitely is. I'm looking to add a couple of lightweight cans to my collection and the Enticer LTi is at the top of my list I was recently able to test one on both .308 & 7" 300blk bolt guns - it's impressively light and quiet |
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Q's silencers do well with subsonic 300 BLK. Check out the Thunder Chicken or the Speak Easy if you're willing to buy a Q silencer. The Full Nelson, non-QD Thunder Chicken, has been the top 300 BLK Subsonic can on Pew Science for a long while. Which means it's probably near the top for the quietest. |
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Originally Posted By bigtex84: My AB Raptor 8 is stupid quite and super light. ^this AB Raptor is awesome 10 with the 5” reflex if it will fit will be most quiet indeed |
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I run a Enticer S Ti on my Ruger American 300BO, it's extremely quiet, the firing pin is louder than the shot. When the round hits steel it LOUD compared to the actual shot. Most of the cans I see above woiuld likely do the same. Enticer in L would do better than the S- if better than basically no sound can be a thing. Nomad, AB, would also be great. CAT cans would likely do good? But they are more flow through if I recall. Maybe someone can correct me, but in my experience high backpressure can are quieter on bolt guns, so keeping the gas in might lead to a quieter can, vs. an AR platform where you are trying to let the gas flow. |
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Originally Posted By bmarshall1: I run a Enticer S Ti on my Ruger American 300BO, it's extremely quiet, the firing pin is louder than the shot. When the round hits steel it LOUD compared to the actual shot. Most of the cans I see above woiuld likely do the same. Enticer in L would do better than the S- if better than basically no sound can be a thing. Nomad, AB, would also be great. CAT cans would likely do good? But they are more flow through if I recall. Maybe someone can correct me, but in my experience high backpressure can are quieter on bolt guns, so keeping the gas in might lead to a quieter can, vs. an AR platform where you are trying to let the gas flow. If you think the Enticer S is quiet, you really need to hear the L. I fired a shot from a bolt action .308 about 20 yards from my buddy and he thought I had stepped on a branch. Or as I recommended above a Rex MG10. |
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Local shop has an AB Raptor 10 with the 5” reflex chamber on the shelf. Thinking of picking it up. This would be my first Ti can. Everything else I own is steel, Inconel or aluminum. I have read that Ti suppressors can throw sparks. Can any Raptor owners comment on whether this is an issue with this can? Is it less likely to be an issue on a bolt gun with an 8” barrel? This is going to be a dedicated night rig, so it’s a big factor. |
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Originally Posted By 7N1x30: Local shop has an AB Raptor 10 with the 5" reflex chamber on the shelf. Thinking of picking it up. This would be my first Ti can. Everything else I own is steel, Inconel or aluminum. I have read that Ti suppressors can throw sparks. Can any Raptor owners comment on whether this is an issue with this can? Is it less likely to be an issue on a bolt gun with an 8" barrel? This is going to be a dedicated night rig, so it's a big factor. |
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I have a Rex MG10 (8.6" x 1.70" diameter) and while it is very quiet, my Energetic Vox S (5.9" x 1.5" diameter)with a wipe and wet is a world of difference quieter than the MG10, especially on a longer barrel like a 16". It's a world of difference. While I anticipate from a lot of the sound comparison data available from Thunder Beast, PEW, and others, that the top big cans would be quieter than the MG10 (Vent 1, Magnus, Tall Boy, Hyperion), there is no way they'd compare with a wet can wiped of reasonable length. The sound is that much quieter, and different. I'd wager if you heard both that and a .22 semi auto suppressed, the .22 suppressed would sound louder. The gas venting out breaks up the sound bigly. I haven't tested it, however from my observations and understanding, the Dead Air Nomax 33 is the biggest can that accommodates a wipe. I would imagine that with a wipe and wet would be the absolute quietest can available. If you are just talking a baffled can, seems to me the PTR Vent 1 has be documented the quietest. The "no substitute for displacement (volume)" argument is just not accurate. It's a good rule of thumb, but wiped, wet, length, number of baffles, all trump volume in most cases. Example, take a Fly 9 on a 300blk bolt gun and compare with subs vs. a Nomad. The Nomad has like 1.5x the volume, but the Fly 9 is significantly quieter. A lot of people have not used a wiped can, and used it wet. If so, they just don't know. |
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Originally Posted By arndog123: I’m interested in this as well. I have a Rossi Brawler in 300BO and so far my Hyperion and Nomad LT are the quietest. The Nomad LT had a little FRP so I want a can that doesn’t have that. https://i.ibb.co/35446wFw/IMG-2025.jpg Get the wipe front cap assembly and run that wet with the Nomad LT. That FRP will be gone, and I guarantee you'll find the can significantly quieter than the Hyperion. |
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Originally Posted By 7N1x30: Local shop has an AB Raptor 10 with the 5” reflex chamber on the shelf. Thinking of picking it up. This would be my first Ti can. Everything else I own is steel, Inconel or aluminum. I have read that Ti suppressors can throw sparks. Can any Raptor owners comment on whether this is an issue with this can? Is it less likely to be an issue on a bolt gun with an 8” barrel? This is going to be a dedicated night rig, so it’s a big factor. I think AB has stated that the 10 isn’t really that much quieter than the 8. That’s why I went with the 8 shorter lighter and pretty much just a quiet as the 10. That’s also a big reflex that might not work on everything. Is the reflex for a bull barrel or a standard barrel? |
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Another vote for nomad L. I keep 110gr projectiles loaded over Red dot for pest control at night. Those things out of my single shot 300blk are the definition of Hollywood quite. Not sure if you reload op but, bolt action/single shot 300 blackout is one round worth playing with. Loading faster burning powders that won’t cycle semi autos greatly decreases the sound signature of the round. |
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Originally Posted By bigtex84: I think AB has stated that the 10 isn’t really that much quieter than the 8. That’s why I went with the 8 shorter lighter and pretty much just a quiet as the 10. That’s also a big reflex that might not work on everything. Is the reflex for a bull barrel or a standard barrel? The 10 is less than an inch longer than the 8 and the 10 is in stock. The 8 isn’t. The gun is going to be short enough that an inch isn’t going to be an issue. I don’t remember which barrel contour the reflex is for, but the gun isn’t built yet, so I can have the barrel cut and contoured to work with the can. Does yours spark? |
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Originally Posted By 7N1x30: The 10 is less than an inch longer than the 8 and the 10 is in stock. The 8 isn’t. The gun is going to be short enough that an inch isn’t going to be an issue. I don’t remember which barrel contour the reflex is for, but the gun isn’t built yet, so I can have the barrel cut and contoured to work with the can. Does yours spark? That’s fair if the 10 is in stock. Do you have a SilencerShop dealer near you? They are in stock there. Usually takes less than a month for me from order to pick up. But wouldn’t build your gun around the suppressor if you want a bull barrel and the 10 comes with a standard barrel reflex. Not sure if AB still exchanges the reflex sections as long as they are unused. But on that point I do believe the reflex works but the can is plenty quiet without it. I have only shot in the bright NM sun so I don’t see any sparks but I know they are there just like any Ti can. You’ll be happy with it unless you plan on shooting fast/auto. Mine lives on my 300 prc or 300blk |
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I have a Thunderbeast Magnus on my DTA bullpup. My ears think it is the quietest and a really low tone. I compared it to a SF, Jet, Shark, and a couple others. 300 Whisper/Blackout, 215 Berger, Vhit N320, Lapua brass. The big S&B 5-25 was there for load development only. Now it wears a Kahles 3-18 compact.   |
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Originally Posted By CaribouLou45: Get the wipe front cap assembly and run that wet with the Nomad LT. That FRP will be gone, and I guarantee you'll find the can significantly quieter than the Hyperion. I’ve shot my Ruger Ranch 300 BO with my wiped Sonus 9 and after a significant FRP it was as quiet as the Hyperion. Guess I need to run it wet too. What do you use for running wet? |
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Originally Posted By Hoser: I have a Thunderbeast Magnus on my DTA bullpup. My ears think it is the quietest and a really low tone. I compared it to a SF, Jet, Shark, and a couple others. 300 Whisper/Blackout, 215 Berger, Vhit N320, Lapua brass. The big S&B 5-25 was there for load development only. Now it wears a Kahles 3-18 compact. https://i.imgur.com/UtxFoqS.jpg https://i.imgur.com/tv7Xyf8.jpg @Hoser What kind of precision are you getting with that load? |
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Originally Posted By arndog123: I’m interested in this as well. I have a Rossi Brawler in 300BO and so far my Hyperion and Nomad LT are the quietest. The Nomad LT had a little FRP so I want a can that doesn’t have that. If you get a chance, shoot your hyperion on your brawler next to a JL. I haven't shot both side by side, but I have shot the JL the same host and holy crap was it impressive. The ammo wasn't great either (commercially reloaded subs). OP, check out the JL for a manually cycled host in 30 cal if you wanna chase dBs. |
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Originally Posted By arndog123: I’ve shot my Ruger Ranch 300 BO with my wiped Sonus 9 and after a significant FRP it was as quiet as the Hyperion. Guess I need to run it wet too. What do you use for running wet? Wire pulling gel, but really any kind of fluid will work. Yeah running it wet will take care of the FRP and with it sealed and the 16" barrel of the Ruger, be prepared for a comical level of quiet. |
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Originally Posted By emccracken: What kind of precision are you getting with that load? Well under 1 MOA. Although the first round out of the rifle always goes way low. If you discount that shot, it will put the rest of the magazine in a nice little group. I chased my tail with this for months and tried everything I could think of. I finally just sucked it up and accepted it. |
| I have not shot the ab raptor in the dark yet but my understanding is that all titanium cans spark at first and it goes away over time |
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Originally Posted By Singlestack_Wonder: Surefire SOCOM 300SPS is the absolute best for 300 Blackout. While I do like the Surefire cans, I have to disagree. My Resonator R2 is noticeably quieter than my SOCOM 300SPS. Tested on my 10.3-inch 300BLK barrel with subsonic 200-grain loads. And on a side note, the SOCOM 300SPS is also more gassy due to it being a higher back pressure can. |
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Originally Posted By SHTFMeister: I have not shot the ab raptor in the dark yet but my understanding is that all titanium cans spark at first and it goes away over time It’s more accurate to say that they spark more at first, and will always spark somewhat. Longer barrels will mitigate this to some degree but it never fully goes away in my experience. |
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