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Originally Posted By PoppaCapp: I appreciate and understand what you're saying. I'm exploring territory new to me, and am taking all suggestions seriously. If I can't get these to fly straight on the next test, they'll get put on the back-burner. That being said. They are beautiful and consistent bullets. I think they'll be great once stabilized. I don't know yet if that can be accomplished with a 20" 1:8 .243. I hope the bullets you bought are just cosmetic defects. Reloaders are the perfect customers to sell to when a product is perfectly functional but does not meet the cosmetic standards for retail sales. Why scrap a perfectly functional product? Good luck! Let us know how it turns out. |
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Originally Posted By Trollslayer: This is just something to think about, as you originally asked for comments. It's not intended as criticism. So, let me pose a problem with 3 round groups, it's problem of logic. Shoot one round - felt good looks good. Shoot another - also felt good but is a bit off from the first. Question #1 - which of those two is the "good" round? Was it just the wind? Shoot a third - also felt good and may line up with one of the previous shots (or maybe not). Question #2 - was shot #3 lined up with the good round or the off round? How can you tell, if you don't really know which of the first two was the good round? You'll get there, no matter what sample size you use for load development testing. No one would or should ignore a three shot clover leaf group but,... Just remember, it has been more than once where a second test did not agree with the first. I see it all the time in my testing and that of others, in both accuracy and point of impact testing but also in chronograph results. I take it that you're not a follower of 10-shot ladders method. Me neither. I don't mind criticism- as Iong as it is constructive. I even invited it. I WILL get there, maybe not with these bullets. By the way, I bet you could spin them fast enough to stabilize with your rifle... Would you like to try a few? Next test will be tuesday, weather permitting. I also loaded up the Magpro portion in the event that velocity is the answer to these bullets. |
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Originally Posted By PoppaCapp: I take it that you're not a follower of 10-shot ladders method. Thanks for the offer but, no, I don't need any more testing work. My shooting schedule is saturated right now doing my stuff (it doesn't take much to do that,  ). When I look at my test plan, I purposefully add in some fun stuff, stuff that goes BANG! and CLANG! Otherwise, it is too much like a job rather than a hobby. When I last did a ladder, I fired 5 shots/load, each load on its own target, all targets identical, mounted right next to each other, all at 200 yards. I did that twice, as I was testing two different powders. I measured velocities, group sizes and changes in POI, all shots having the same POA. It gave clear, usable results. I picked a load, loaded up and tested 20 more rounds on my next outing. I've used that load ever since. |
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2nd range trip- Ok, I'm giving up on the 105 OTM blems. Today, I finished up the Ramshot Hunter test, and the COAL test with 42.3 Hunter. I shot 7 groups with 42.3, one with 42.8, and one 43.3. All of these had SDs between 2 and 5. Which seemed outstanding for 9 groups. 42.3 averaged 2805, 42.8 averaged 2859, and 43.3 averaged 2889. All groups sucked except 3- all with 42.3 charge. These three all had same poi. One was 1.25, one was 1/2" and one was 1/3". Every other shot had no rhyme or rhythm. So, I'm giving up on these. I did like the upper end of Hunter charges with this weight bullet. Decent Velocity, no pressure signs, excellent SDs. I'm going to try some Nosler 107 Custom Competitions next. |
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Rdf 105s are the absolute worst bullet I ever tried. Could not get them to work for shit in 3 diff calibers. Best bang for buck is the barnes match burners. Followed by the Hornady and mid south bullets |
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At risk of sounding like a broken record, buy a box of 107 SMKs. They will establish a benchmark when testing all other bullets. You could buy Bergers or Lapuas but the SMK will be sufficient for benchmarking the rifle, powders and shooter. |
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Originally Posted By Trollslayer: At risk of sounding like a broken record, buy a box of 107 SMKs. They will establish a benchmark when testing all other bullets. You could buy Bergers or Lapuas but the SMK will be sufficient for benchmarking the rifle, powders and shooter. I'll get there... Eventually. Pistol competition season will be winding down. Biggest problem right now is the range situation. Their schedule and mine are mostly conflicted. I bought the Noslers over the Sierras mostly due to the profile. After the long nose RDFs, I wanted the tangent Ogive. Too, the Nosler CCs and Sierra MKs are both excellent in my .223. It is also extremely partial to Hornady 75 OTMs. |
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