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Posted: 5/3/2018 12:37:32 AM EDT
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You mentioned also buying one for your wife. How big/strong is she? I'm just wondering if you've factored in that she might be less physically capable than you. Also, due to obvious things associated with being female what fits you may not fit her the same way. I know that training/equipment familiarity within a group is important, but it's entirely possible that what works well for you may not work so well for her.
If you find a carrier that works well for both of you, awesome. Just something to consider. Armor that isn't comfortable is armor that doesn't get worn. A blanket solution is not always the best solution. The only thing I can say about those carriers is they're all good to go in respect to quality of construction and materials. Heads up though, the JPC 2.0 is in demand right now and people are struggling to source certain size/color combos. We just had a thread in here with a guy trying to hunt one down. Seems the production dates are way out too for getting more in stock. Some advice I give people for picking gear: pick the simplest piece of gear possible that will do what you need it to do. You might like the idea of having loads of bells and whistles, only to find out you don't use half of it and it ends up being dead weight or getting in the way. Another thing, have you sized yourself and your wife for plates? |
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Posted: 5/3/2018 2:59:23 AM EDT
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JPC all the way.
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Posted: 5/3/2018 3:20:25 AM EDT
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JPC all the way. |
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Posted: 5/3/2018 3:46:16 AM EDT
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Might as well cross the JPC 2.0 off your list unless you want to pay a premium or wait indefinitely for it to come back in stock.
By chance have you looked at the SKD/FirstSpear STT? When I was selecting my plate carrier, my list was very similar to yours. I found the STT to be a better overall value. |
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Posted: 5/3/2018 10:16:11 AM EDT
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Might as well cross the JPC 2.0 off your list unless you want to pay a premium or wait indefinitely for it to come back in stock. By chance have you looked at the SKD/FirstSpear STT? When I was selecting my plate carrier, my list was very similar to yours. I found the STT to be a better overall value. |
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Posted: 5/3/2018 12:13:34 PM EDT
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Might as well cross the JPC 2.0 off your list unless you want to pay a premium or wait indefinitely for it to come back in stock. 
ETA: OPtactical has two colors in stock Amazon has multicam (at a rape me price) Google turned up a few more that had some colors and sizes in stock |
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Posted: 5/3/2018 9:51:45 PM EDT
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Yeah, when I find a good quality piece of kit if it's hard to get I'll just give up. That's always the best thing to do When I last checked OPTactical, they were OOS across the board. I myself am in need of a Medium in Black for work because multicam is against policy and apparently makes me stand out. I thought it would make me blend in, it is multicam afterall. |
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Posted: 5/3/2018 10:08:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I misread the OP. I thought he had a class coming up requiring a plate carrier. I must be thinking of another JPC thread. Regardless, banking on acquiring one from Crye or quite a few vendors when they themselves have no time frame on availability could leave one short. When I last checked OPTactical, they were OOS across the board. I myself am in need of a Medium in Black for work because multicam is against policy and apparently makes me stand out. I thought it would make me blend in, it is multicam afterall. 
Black was one they had when I checked...OOS now. Dang. |
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Posted: 5/6/2018 7:59:58 PM EDT
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I love my JPC 2.0 so far.
other similar concept carriers worth looking into would be the Ferro Slickster or the Spiritus. If you don't mind the lack of adaptive features of the 2.0, a used MC JPC can be found very cheap. I've seen them under 200. One thing to consider is what plates you want or have. The JPC series has a tighter plate pocket sized for military SAPIs and ESAPIs. If you're using some cheap super thick odd-sized/shaped single curve plates they might not fit. OP, what does your loadout look like? |
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Posted: 5/7/2018 8:08:08 AM EDT
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Maybe just get a chest rig?
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Posted: 5/7/2018 8:40:32 AM EDT
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Maybe just get a chest rig? If he isn't getting plates he I'd agree he doesn't need a plate carrier and would better be served with a good chest rig. I'm a huge fan of having my cake and eating it too. Plate carrier with plates and swift clip chest rig I can use alone or wear on a PC. |
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Posted: 5/14/2018 12:54:57 AM EDT
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So I’ll try to address some of the questions…
My plan was to purchase one of those 3 plate carriers for me and then have my wife try it and make adjustments from there. If she likes it then we’ll order the correct size and if not then I’ll be back on here asking more questions. Once both plate carriers are ordered, received and we’re both happy then we’ll look into ordering the right size and cut plates. We haven’t been sized for plates yet. Looks like the JPC 2.0 is the carrier to get if it's available. What makes the JPC 2.0 more popular than the Pig PC and the Mayflower APC? I’m in no rush right now to order a carrier, but would like to have an idea of what to order. I’m not signing up for any classes right now until I get a plate carrier and it somewhat setup. My current loadout is a belt (can’t remember what brand) with x2 HSGI double decker tacos (rifle/pistol) and an admin pouch on the back. I had a Serpa holster, but didn’t like it so I took it off. Ordering a different one here soon. Besides the holster the only thing else I want to add to it is a small IFAK. I have my concealed carry license so I also CC. I have the typical bug out bags and a quick grab ammo bag. Down the road after the plate carriers are all setup for both of us, I would like to order a chest rig and set it up just to have. |
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Posted: 5/14/2018 10:20:57 AM EDT
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So I’ll try to address some of the questions… My plan was to purchase one of those 3 plate carriers for me and then have my wife try it and make adjustments from there. If she likes it then we’ll order the correct size and if not then I’ll be back on here asking more questions. Once both plate carriers are ordered, received and we’re both happy then we’ll look into ordering the right size and cut plates. We haven’t been sized for plates yet. Looks like the JPC 2.0 is the carrier to get if it's available. What makes the JPC 2.0 more popular than the Pig PC and the Mayflower APC? I’m in no rush right now to order a carrier, but would like to have an idea of what to order. I’m not signing up for any classes right now until I get a plate carrier and it somewhat setup. My current loadout is a belt (can’t remember what brand) with x2 HSGI double decker tacos (rifle/pistol) and an admin pouch on the back. I had a Serpa holster, but didn’t like it so I took it off. Ordering a different one here soon. Besides the holster the only thing else I want to add to it is a small IFAK. I have my concealed carry license so I also CC. I have the typical bug out bags and a quick grab ammo bag. Down the road after the plate carriers are all setup for both of us, I would like to order a chest rig and set it up just to have. It’s the current cool guys preferred PC. I’m nit saying it’s not a good PC but lots of guys don’t figure out exactly what they need. They just look to SEALS and DELTA and copy. Which is why you still have guys that use/defend EOjunk despite their horrible durability record. Poor battery life compared to competitors. Et cetera. |
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Posted: 5/14/2018 10:36:28 AM EDT
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Well I might catch flak for this but what makes it more poplar than the others? It’s the current cool guys preferred PC. I’m nit saying it’s not a good PC but lots of guys don’t figure out exactly what they need. They just look to SEALS and DELTA and copy. I'm sure that's part of it. Especially considering the high price. Now that the price is set to drop by 30% you'll see more people buying them. I picked the JPC 2.0 for a few reasons, most related to 2 things: modularity and durability. Modularity: Ability to scale up: several styles of back panels several styles of Crye front placards (stretch, MOLLE, airlite, flap mags for AR15 or SR25, triple shingle) Velcro front with no sewn-in front panel to make it easy to run slick Easy to add hardware to take swift-clips panels and chest rigs from tons of companies Easy to add or remove side-plate options Cummerbund options from Crye and Ronin (skeletonized 3 or 2 band, airlite, elastic, single strap Low-profile kangaroo pouch which is not noticeable empty, or can be used with tons of Velcro pocket accessories A lot of the modularity revolves around being able to add options from other companies without significantly adding bulk. In it's stripped-down form its about as minimalist a carrier as exists without being so bare you can't scale up. Quality: Crye may or may not be "the best" in every way with no room for improvement. But it's a known quantity. There are plenty of good plate carriers made by smaller companies, but I'm for buying what I know works and I'll leave the testing to people who always need something different. There's also a built in low-profile admin pouch and the QD mechanisms. |
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Posted: 5/14/2018 10:39:27 AM EDT
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So I'll try to address some of the questions My plan was to purchase one of those 3 plate carriers for me and then have my wife try it and make adjustments from there. If she likes it then we'll order the correct size and if not then I'll be back on here asking more questions. Once both plate carriers are ordered, received and we're both happy then we'll look into ordering the right size and cut plates. We haven't been sized for plates yet. Looks like the JPC 2.0 is the carrier to get if it's available. What makes the JPC 2.0 more popular than the Pig PC and the Mayflower APC? I'm in no rush right now to order a carrier, but would like to have an idea of what to order. I'm not signing up for any classes right now until I get a plate carrier and it somewhat setup. My current loadout is a belt (can't remember what brand) with x2 HSGI double decker tacos (rifle/pistol) and an admin pouch on the back. I had a Serpa holster, but didn't like it so I took it off. Ordering a different one here soon. Besides the holster the only thing else I want to add to it is a small IFAK. I have my concealed carry license so I also CC. I have the typical bug out bags and a quick grab ammo bag. Down the road after the plate carriers are all setup for both of us, I would like to order a chest rig and set it up just to have. I'll pull up typical plate dimensions in a minute and tell you what I do to size plates. |
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Posted: 5/14/2018 11:07:52 AM EDT
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Ok, plate dimensions:
As for how to size plates I draw an outline on a piece of cardboard according to the dimensions of the plate and make a cutout. You can then strap that cutout to your chest and/or back and test for coverage, movement restriction, etc. Good rule of thumb is you should be able to easily "punch out" your hands forward like when shooting a pistol. Also, sit down and make sure it won't ride up into your chin or neck. If it does that size is likely too long. For dealing with the plate cut (shooters, swimmers, etc) I usually just give it my best guess as to the angle and depth of the cuts because there's no standard for 10x12 and 8x10 plates but there is for SAPI plates. I think @sawlaw1 has the dimensions needed to make proper cut angles for standard SAPI sizes. To simulate thickness you can attach some foam or other such material of appropriate thickness to the cutout which will move it out from your body. Most manufacturers state plate thickness if you have some specific plates in mind but if you don't typical plate thicknesses range from 1/2 an inch to just over an inch thick. |
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Posted: 5/14/2018 11:39:45 AM EDT
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Ok, plate dimensions:
As for how to size plates I draw an outline on a piece of cardboard according to the dimensions of the plate and make a cutout. You can then strap that cutout to your chest and/or back and test for coverage, movement restriction, etc. Good rule of thumb is you should be able to easily "punch out" your hands forward like when shooting a pistol. Also, sit down and make sure it won't ride up into your chin or neck. If it does that size is likely too long. For dealing with the plate cut (shooters, swimmers, etc) I usually just give it my best guess as to the angle and depth of the cuts because there's no standard for 10x12 and 8x10 plates but there is for SAPI plates. I think @sawlaw1 has the dimensions needed to make proper cut angles for standard SAPI sizes. To simulate thickness you can attach some foam or other such material of appropriate thickness to the cutout which will move it out from your body. Most manufacturers state plate thickness if you have some specific plates in mind but if you don't typical plate thicknesses range from 1/2 an inch to just over an inch thick. This is a really good point. Get plates THEN find a carrier for them. Not all carriers will fit certain plates. For example, the JPC series has a tight plate bag, and while it might fit a medium SAPI or comparable plate, if you get a slightly odd ball "medium" plate that's too thick, or the listed numbers are rounded down then it might not fit the plate you have. A good example would be finding the handgun you want, THEN ordered the holster model you need. You can buy a light-compatible G17 safariland holster only to find out that your PPQ with Veridian laser won't fit. There are some carriers that only fit very specific plates (think S&S Plateframe), then there are carriers that are very universal (something like the 5.11 TACTEC). Then there's everything in between with varying levels of compatibilities. A banshee will fit everyone and almost every plate. A small JPC will fit people and plates with much more limited options for "generally fits". |
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Posted: 5/14/2018 1:53:52 PM EDT
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I'm sure that's part of it. Especially considering the high price. Now that the price is set to drop by 30% you'll see more people buying them. I picked the JPC 2.0 for a few reasons, most related to 2 things: modularity and durability. Modularity: Ability to scale up: several styles of back panels several styles of Crye front placards (stretch, MOLLE, airlite, flap mags for AR15 or SR25, triple shingle) Velcro front with no sewn-in front panel to make it easy to run slick Easy to add hardware to take swift-clips panels and chest rigs from tons of companies Easy to add or remove side-plate options Cummerbund options from Crye and Ronin (skeletonized 3 or 2 band, airlite, elastic, single strap Low-profile kangaroo pouch which is not noticeable empty, or can be used with tons of Velcro pocket accessories A lot of the modularity revolves around being able to add options from other companies without significantly adding bulk. In it's stripped-down form its about as minimalist a carrier as exists without being so bare you can't scale up. Quality: Crye may or may not be "the best" in every way with no room for improvement. But it's a known quantity. There are plenty of good plate carriers made by smaller companies, but I'm for buying what I know works and I'll leave the testing to people who always need something different. There's also a built in low-profile admin pouch and the QD mechanisms. 
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Posted: 5/19/2018 8:27:59 AM EDT
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I agree, get the plates first. Level III+, ceramic/composite construction, SAPI sized, multicurved. Like a HESCO 3610 or similar. Then get a JPC 1.0 or 2.0 depending on your need to change up your loadout.
A JPC has no structure without a plate. If you want real plate sizes and shapes to fit, buy a plastic toy "100% to scale" multicurved SAPI airsoft plate set. Your wife will be a small or medium and you will be a medium or large 95% of the time. Start with a medium. |
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