Anyone not loving their perst 3?

Waiting on my Order from RT.. But my other P4 from a Member came in today.. Picked up a ModButton just to hack it all up ( Oh the Horror) and wired it up to the Laser, in front I got the Hot Button hooked up to the SureFire.. If I work on the controls more I can press both switches to get Momentary.. So far this laser is the ShizNits

Nicely done amigo I trust the splice worked out as-intended?

Haha yes it did.. Thanks for the extra tip my man..

Nice! Looks like the hot button fits in well on the P4 as well.

Now if only modlite would make a momentary only version of the hot button. I like mine but I've had it go constant on me from recoil before. Is a modification to the hot button what you mean by 'working on' in your post? Attached File

I am sure this question has been asked and answered many times before, but I am coming up empty on search.


I am about to order a Perst4 directly from Zentico on eBay, I understand the wait, but just want to ensure people have had luck getting these from their eBay store. I see they’ve sold a shit ton, so I doubt I have anything to worry about.

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What is this scout mount?

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What I meant by “working on” was if I practice more I MAY GET BETTER Activating the controls how I want it lol.. There are a few times I’ve gotten the Perst to go Constant when I press the ModButton when I really wanted Momentary.. I may end up going with a TAPS SYNC (maybe) but I’m limited to rail space..

I believe it’s a Magpul M-Lok Scout Mount..

How does the hive feel about having their Perst hang out beyond the rail a bit? This would be on a 100% suppressed rifle, so heat would be constantly radiating in its vicinity.

I'd love to have my TAPS a few pic sections farther forward so I dont have to retract my grip so much...but not at the expense of burning up the lightsaber.

Purchased from Russian Thunder BF weekend, entered Russian post on 30 Dec, hit Russian exit customs 3 Jan, arrived NY customs 10 Jan, delivered to VA 15 Jan.

My P2 hangs ~1/2” from the end of an SDN-6 on a 10.3 5.56 AR. That rifle has been used in multiple matches and practice sessions with 60-90+ round strings with no I’ll effects to any of the IR bits, viz laser, or white light.

Great to hear! I'm gonna give it a go. I've been impressed with the Perst but still being more gentle with it than most of my other stuff since warranty work is an international affair.

It's a magpul, I forget the model but I do think it had scout in the name, that has been krylon'd for a different rifle. Had it laying around and it's just about perfect for reducing suppressor shadow. It looks a little funny with the tape switch wire wrapped around it but it keeps it snag free

My Perst 4 fell out a car window doing about 10mph, did the dirt road bounce and still speaks fluent commie.

I did exactly what you’re talking about, ordered from eBay in January 1st and received it in the mail today.  Second one I’ve ordered from eBay. First order took just over month and that was last august.

Got mine in today, only thing I don't love is that the LED for the on indicator doesn't line up with the window but I can still see it pretty well so it's not a big deal. I thought KV-5P tape switch was constant on only but I'm pleasantly surprised to see that it's momentary as well, I still plan on getting a KV-9P switch as soon as Ivan gets more in stock and I'll get a Unity Hot Button for my Modlite. I also have a can of duracoat magpul fde on the way.

I ordered from IvanTactical with the expedited shipping and was ready to wait weeks or possibly months for it but I guess I got lucky. Ordered on the 01/14, shipped on 01/15 and delivered 01/21.

Package status: Delivered (6 Days)
Country: Russian Federation -> United States
Origin:
2021-01-21 12:38 United States, Delivery
2021-01-20 10:57 United States, USJFKA, Import of international mail
2021-01-20 01:07 United States, JFK, Processing of international mail, Received by the designated operator
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2021-01-19 04:36 Russian Federation, Sheremet`evo MMPO PCI-7 104007, Export of international mail
2021-01-19 04:36 Russian Federation, Processing of international mail, Forwarded to the carrier
2021-01-17 18:17 Russian Federation, Sheremet`evo EMS 130980, Processing, Arrival at inward office of exchange
2021-01-17 12:03 Russian Federation, Sheremet`evo EMS 130980, Customs clearance, Released by custom house
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Anyone know if they are ever going to do a version that will accept regular surefire pressure pads and other standard U.S. switches?

That and are there safety covers for the laser and illuminator?

Good to hear.

I’d be very surprised if they did a run which was compatible with western switches.

Regarding ‘safety covers’....rule 1. Be aware of your muzzle and all will be fine.

I honestly have no idea. I think the gen 2's have better waterproofing but look exactly the same??

I think I confused myself in the past few pages. Is the latest gen Perst-3 gen 2 or gen 3?

ETA: I bought one of these last week. Am I good to go? Says "gen 2 plug" but nothing else about updates.

I believe gen 2 is the newest gen for the Perst 3.

Perst-3 Gen 3 is supposed to be released sometime this month.

That's not true, there is no Perst3 gen 3.  The new Perst3 is gen 2, the new Perst4 is gen 3.  They are two different products.

Alright I'm not the only one that was confused then. Thanks for clearing that up!

"Gen 2 plug" refers to the socket that was updated mid 2019.
Gen 1 plug:
https://ivantactical.com/shop/weapon-accessories/flashlights-and-accessories/accesories/zenitco-kv-1p-remote-pressure-switch/

Gen 2 plug:
https://ivantactical.com/shop/weapon-accessories/flashlights-and-accessories/accesories/zenitco-kv-1p-gen-2-remote-pressure-switch/

Ok, so I might be getting a Gen 1 Perst 3 with a gen 2 plug? But there's a Gen 2 Perst 3 coming out this month and that's the latest gen? Talk to me like I'm in kindergarten.

Thanks for the correction.

You bought the gen1 Perst3.  If you'd like to wait it out for the gen 2 just send them an email and they will be happy to do so.

The gen2 will cost the exact same as gen1, just have new internal electronics, improved water resistance, and a new plug and switch.  I have not had my hands on the new switch but it does look better.  Zenitco also confirmed they will release other new switches as well but has not said what style they would be, it's very possible and likely they will use western design as an influence such as the mod button and/or taps, I make this assumption based on their actions of making all the Perst and klesch lineup 100% compatible with each other.

Thanks. They already shipped it so it is what it is.

I don't really care about direct Crane plug inputs; splicing it into one isn't too difficult...But, I do wish they'd find a way to make their three prong plug more robust/secure. Perhaps the design is more robust than I'm giving it credit for, but man it feels wobbly and breakage-prone with how far the connector extends from the laser body. And the three prongs themselves are awfully thin.

The overall design of these things appears to be robust and legitimately duty-grade, so it's certainly possible that they've vetted the plug design. But it just feels flimsy.

has anyone broken any yet? Ive seen at least 2-3 broke female crane connectors.

Very interested in getting one. I have a few questions if anyone could be so kind:

1. Anyone run one of these with a Razor HD in a standard height mount? Wondering if it will clear over the top of the Perst, or if my view through the optic will be obstructed.
2. If you mount it on top of the rail, is it pretty comfortable and practical hitting the button on top of the box? I have pretty limited rail space, so I doubt I can mount the tape switch.
3. Which store is best? I see an official Zenitco on ebay, Ivan Tactical, and a few others.

Sorry if these were already answered somewhere, but this thread is like 60 pages long...

2. Pretty easy to activate even on a tall rail like a DD Lite. There is always the button on the backside as well.

3. Very happy with how ordering / shipping went with Ivan Tactical, he's definitely good to go

1. No help here, always used 1.93 or higher.
2. I find it *very* easy to use either the back or top button.
3. I used Zenitco eBay, but I never needed service. He did answer quick when I had a question. I'd go Ivan Tactical if you want guaranteed rock solid support, just going off of other guys reports - they do stuff like shipping out replacement units, before they get the original back...hard to beat.

1. lower 1/3 with Aimpoint

1. It obstructs the lower third of the view on 1x but not enough to bother me. It disappears around 2-3x

2. It is comfortable thumb over top- just don’t keep thumb over when you are using your scope otherwise 2/3 will be obstructed.

3. Ivan tactical ships fast and has excellent customer service all around. Russian thunder seems cheaper esp. after their occasional 10% coupon codes and they are responsive as well.

So when exactly are the gen 2 Perst 3's available to order? I've been holding out, but I think I'll get one ordered when they are available.

You can order a perst-3 from Russian thunder and request a gen2 unit.

I didn't scroll the whole thread, but if anyone wants to connect their perst up to a crane cable or surefire switch all you need to do is connect the white perst wire to the inner wire of the crane/sf cable, and connect the green/brown perst cables to the outer crane cable. Easy peasy.

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Thank you for the clear explanation and pictures.

I'm super impressed with Ivan Tactical. Ordered Perst-3 Jan 16th, shipped Jan 18th, and USPS says they'll deliver it to my door tomorrow!

ETA: I paid for their Express Mail option and it works. Most definitely.

Because I'm ignorant and wanted 700mW over 250mW

Figure if I'm using shitty PVS-5 gen2+ tubes in a bino setup, I should probably have as much light as possible, LOL

Nice write up

Now to find a Taps Sync actually in stock somewhere

Anyone know what the "Green+" option is from Russian Thunder? There is Green, Red, and Green+, and they're all the same price. So naturally, I opted for Green+ because surely it's better? Tell me I didn't F up....

Just increased vis laser output