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Posted: 10/24/2020 4:37:47 PM EDT
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All depends on how short you want to go. If you want to go super short, the DeadFoot arms SCW 2.5 is your best option.
The maxims are great. The deadfoot arms scw are better. |
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Posted: 10/24/2020 4:43:27 PM EDT
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I like the rail type. I think the Maxim is what I like best. How is the LWRC?
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Posted: 10/24/2020 4:54:39 PM EDT
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I tried a ton of them and stay with a mission first minimalist. Everything shorter requires special parts or weighs a ton. Not worth the price.
If you wanna go shorter than that a law folder is the only option but that makes the thing fat |
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Posted: 10/24/2020 6:33:40 PM EDT
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I'm in the process of building a 300 BLK PDW out of my Daniel Defense factory SBR lower. Currently waiting on my Radian Weapons Model 1 300 BLK 9" complete upper to get here.
I looked into the LWRC PDW stock kit (3.5" in length when collapsed), but was told it would only work with their piston-driven uppers. So that ruled that out. I ended up going with the Maxim SCW stock kit (4" in length when collapsed) and was very pleased with the quality, fitment, aesthetics, functionality, and the cheek weld. I test-fit this lower with another SBR upper and really dig the compactness and feel. So if you're considering the SCW kit, +1. They seem to have 15% off coupons + free shipping pretty regularly if you buy direct, or I know Optics Planet sells them for slightly less when you factor in a 10% off coupon and free shipping (although tax). 
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Posted: 10/26/2020 11:11:24 PM EDT
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agree. Maxim is great.
Added benefit. You can buy the pistol brace and replace when you have form 1 swap to stock with same buffer tube. |
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Posted: 11/7/2020 2:10:42 AM EDT
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I have the Maxim and LWRC UCIW.
I like both, the JPSCS probably makes me prefer the Maxim, but the LWRC is more comfortable. |
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Posted: 11/8/2020 5:57:18 PM EDT
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How short a barrel can I go with 556 and this stock?
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Posted: 11/9/2020 1:28:40 PM EDT
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The LMT PDW stock kit is super short and uses all standard components :) it is very short. It has a more traditional look, but it is very small. I ordered the parts individually and modified a Kriss stock to fit - was cheaper by far to piece it together with my own stock that to buy the kit with no intentions of using the stock that came with it. Here is the LMT kit with a 4.5" 556 upper. I'd be willing to sell the stock, tube, buffer, etc as I later went to the DFA MCS.
  Here is the DFA MCS with a 3" 9mm upper, 
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Posted: 11/12/2020 10:58:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The LMT PDW stock kit is super short and uses all standard components :) it is very short. It has a more traditional look, but it is very small. I ordered the parts individually and modified a Kriss stock to fit - was cheaper by far to piece it together with my own stock that to buy the kit with no intentions of using the stock that came with it. Here is the LMT kit with a 4.5" 556 upper. I'd be willing to sell the stock, tube, buffer, etc as I later went to the DFA MCS. https://i.ibb.co/j5TXd5T/20200104-151107.jpg https://i.ibb.co/vvcK7R1/20200104-151136.jpg Here is the DFA MCS with a 3" 9mm upper, https://i.ibb.co/5B2WJVC/20200429-091326.jpg That 3" 9mm is so awesome! borderline comical in size. Say hello to my little friend. 
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Posted: 11/13/2020 8:59:49 AM EDT
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That 9 is adorable.
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Posted: 11/13/2020 10:10:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That 9 is adorable. The carry handle just pushes it over the edge |
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Posted: 11/18/2020 9:54:33 PM EDT
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Here's the end product
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Posted: 11/20/2020 8:37:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/20/2020 8:48:15 PM EDT
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I went went the MVB ARC as well. The selling point for me was I could use any BCG i wanted, not one with proprietary parts. I have the lightweight version. There are several good things about it. At the same time, I would not mind looking at other options on the market that do not have the proprietary parts.
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Posted: 11/20/2020 8:48:25 PM EDT
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Double tap post
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Posted: 12/13/2020 9:16:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The LMT PDW stock kit is super short and uses all standard components :) it is very short. It has a more traditional look, but it is very small. I ordered the parts individually and modified a Kriss stock to fit - was cheaper by far to piece it together with my own stock that to buy the kit with no intentions of using the stock that came with it. How were you able to order the parts individually? I can only find it as a kit. Thanks. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 10:07:45 PM EDT
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I emailed and asked about the kit minus the stock, and explained that I wanted to use my own stock. I got an email back with a list of parts and prices and i called and ordered :) I ordered a carrier weight, spring, buffer, & buffer tube.
However, I called last week about getting an additional carrier weight so I could have another upper that was swap ready and I was told that they do not sell parts, just kits :( so it looks like eirher they figured out how much money I saved piecing it together and decided not to do that any more, or I spoke with someone who just didn't know... You might get a different person who has a different opinion though! Worth a try! |
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Posted: 12/14/2020 9:09:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I emailed and asked about the kit minus the stock, and explained that I wanted to use my own stock. I got an email back with a list of parts and prices and i called and ordered :) I ordered a carrier weight, spring, buffer, & buffer tube. However, I called last week about getting an additional carrier weight so I could have another upper that was swap ready and I was told that they do not sell parts, just kits :( so it looks like eirher they figured out how much money I saved piecing it together and decided not to do that any more, or I spoke with someone who just didn't know... You might get a different person who has a different opinion though! Worth a try! Lol. Thanks for the info. What was the price minus the stock? |
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Posted: 12/14/2020 10:51:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. Thanks for the info. What was the price minus the stock? Let's just say that the hourly rate for whoever cuts the SOPMOD stock down for them must be outrageous! it was quite under $200 for everything minus the stock body... Which is what leads me to wonder if that's why they don't piece them out anymore. |
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Posted: 12/14/2020 11:15:28 AM EDT
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I like the BAD PDW system. Not overly heavy or bulky. I have two on SBR’s, they’re nice
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Posted: 12/14/2020 1:24:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Let's just say that the hourly rate for whoever cuts the SOPMOD stock down for them must be outrageous! it was quite under $200 for everything minus the stock body... Which is what leads me to wonder if that's why they don't piece them out anymore. Yeah, just got the following message from Aaron: "The PDW parts are only sold as a kit. We do not sell them individually. Have a great day." I may buy the die and rethread the receiver extension myself. Nice setup you have. Thanks again. |
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Posted: 12/14/2020 1:44:59 PM EDT
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Thanks!! I think a cut down and re-threaded buffer tube, flat wire spring, cut down buffer, and a .625" diam x 1.75-2.0" piece of brass round stock pinned into the end of the BCG would do the job. Since I can't get another carrier weight, I think I'm going to have a buddy turn me a few brass inserts and drill and pin them to the BCGs for my two uppers.
Good luck with the project !! if you need specific measurements, send me a PM and I'll give ya figures for everything :) |
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Posted: 12/14/2020 2:00:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks!! I think a cut down and re-threaded buffer tube, flat wire spring, cut down buffer, and a .625" diam x 1.75-2.0" piece of brass round stock pinned into the end of the BCG would do the job. Since I can't get another carrier weight, I think I'm going to have a buddy turn me a few brass inserts and drill and pin them to the BCGs for my two uppers. Good luck with the project !! if you need specific measurements, send me a PM and I'll give ya figures for everything :) 
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Posted: 12/26/2020 2:15:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good luck with the project !! It's so effing cute! 
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Posted: 12/30/2020 6:02:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/31/2020 8:36:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I dig it!!!! Thanks! Here's an pic of it next to the Lage'd M11/9 for stock size comparison...  Finished-ish stock extended. 
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Posted: 12/31/2020 11:18:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks! Here's an pic of it next to the Lage'd M11/9 for stock size comparison... https://i.imgur.com/C8Lbb8V.jpg Finished-ish stock extended. https://i.imgur.com/VAwNGW6.jpg Wow great work especially on the tube and buffer modification! May I suggest sanding down and cutting the A2 grip to a KAC PDW grip to balance it out?
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Posted: 1/5/2021 3:40:16 PM EDT
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I am partial to the BAD Vert stock on this 300BO SBR:
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Posted: 1/6/2021 9:32:42 AM EDT
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Question..maybe silly but genuinely curious
Are you guys that are swapping to these compact setups, not worried about the shorter OAL? As you have to enter the length on the form 1, any problems with this? |
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Posted: 1/6/2021 9:52:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Question..maybe silly but genuinely curious Are you guys that are swapping to these compact setups, not worried about the shorter OAL? As you have to enter the length on the form 1, any problems with this? Form 1 is what it was built to, you aren't stuck with those dimensions forever. |
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Posted: 1/6/2021 11:38:29 PM EDT
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I have the BAD PDW monolithic lower for my SBR. With a 7.5” barrel it comes in at 20.5” OAL and 24.5” with stock fully extended. I may still have pics somewhere. I really like the stock overall, but there are times i wish it was an inch or two longer as well.
—edit— found picture 
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Posted: 3/29/2021 8:23:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks! Here's an pic of it next to the Lage'd M11/9 for stock size comparison... https://i.imgur.com/C8Lbb8V.jpg Finished-ish stock extended. https://i.imgur.com/VAwNGW6.jpg Very nice! Any pic of how you worked the buffer stop? |
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Posted: 3/29/2021 8:33:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Very nice! Any pic of how you worked the buffer stop? What do you mean? I'm trying to figure out what you would like to see. Apologies, but my other account was nuked because I was disagreeable with the site's royalty... |
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Posted: 4/12/2021 7:47:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What do you mean? I'm trying to figure out what you would like to see. Apologies, but my other account was nuked because I was disagreeable with the site's royalty... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Very nice! Any pic of how you worked the buffer stop? What do you mean? I'm trying to figure out what you would like to see. Apologies, but my other account was nuked because I was disagreeable with the site's royalty... Don't think this account will last long either with that admission. Cool gun though! |
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Posted: 4/17/2021 2:13:08 PM EDT
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posting to see if it marks this thread as read in the forum list.
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Posted: 4/21/2021 4:41:38 PM EDT
[#36]
Of the short, PDW type, I much prefer the Battle Arms Vert stock. Not the absolute shortest, but extended still gives a decent LOP and cheek weld. Most importantly, no proprietary carrier or carrier extension of any sort. No weird issues like not being able to shotgun the AR or anything.
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Posted: 4/23/2021 4:24:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Of the short, PDW type, I much prefer the Battle Arms Vert stock. Not the absolute shortest, but extended still gives a decent LOP and cheek weld. Most importantly, no proprietary carrier or carrier extension of any sort. No weird issues like not being able to shotgun the AR or anything. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/No1xWhTYWKCaZgUnOTdly3DZz3vOE6VLeIv7wnguy7li0OEOCN8w7KUYeP4hJ79eJhYpW2b8Dj3hbVaKF2c=w1000 @houlster: what stick mag is that? 8654 |
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Posted: 4/23/2021 7:21:21 PM EDT
[#38]
Colt pattern 9mm lower / mag
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Posted: 5/2/2021 11:36:11 AM EDT
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Can the Maxim PDW stock be extended with one hand only?
I got a Troy short Tomahawk kit and was disappointed to find that two hands are needed to extend and contract it! The LWRC stock is great, but can only be used with their piston system. |
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Posted: 5/25/2021 10:57:56 PM EDT
[#40]
  MVB arc-x pdw |
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Posted: 5/25/2021 11:16:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can the Maxim PDW stock be extended with one hand only? I got a Troy short Tomahawk kit and was disappointed to find that two hands are needed to extend and contract it! The LWRC stock is great, but can only be used with their piston system. LWRC can most definitely be used withOUT the LWRC piston uppers. I have 2 on DI 6.8 and 5.56 custom rifles The LWRC is probably the most comfortable one out of most on this list, at least to me. I have the Tomahawk on a short 6.8 rifle and its short, but not super comfy |
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Posted: 5/26/2021 1:34:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LWRC can most definitely be used withOUT the LWRC piston uppers. I have 2 on DI 6.8 and 5.56 custom rifles The LWRC is probably the most comfortable one out of most on this list, at least to me. I have the Tomahawk on a short 6.8 rifle and its short, but not super comfy The PDW stock can be used on DI guns? The proprietary bolt carrier that comes with the PDW stock would have to be milled extensively to make it work DI. Or is there a way to get a DI version from LWRC? Or are you using the UCIW? |
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Posted: 5/26/2021 9:37:28 PM EDT
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That's my mistake,
I have the UCIW stocks, with their shortie buffers and custom springs I didnt realize LWRC had another offering |
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Posted: 5/26/2021 9:54:15 PM EDT
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I like the Maxim. Threw an SB Tactical brace strut on it until I get around to SBR’ing it. It fit fine too.
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Posted: 5/27/2021 9:47:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The LMT PDW stock kit is super short and uses all standard components :) it is very short. It has a more traditional look, but it is very small. I ordered the parts individually and modified a Kriss stock to fit - was cheaper by far to piece it together with my own stock that to buy the kit with no intentions of using the stock that came with it. Here is the LMT kit with a 4.5" 556 upper. I'd be willing to sell the stock, tube, buffer, etc as I later went to the DFA MCS. https://i.ibb.co/j5TXd5T/20200104-151107.jpg https://i.ibb.co/vvcK7R1/20200104-151136.jpg Here is the DFA MCS with a 3" 9mm upper, https://i.ibb.co/5B2WJVC/20200429-091326.jpg Hahahahaha, that 3” 9mm AR is so great. Not my cup of tea to own, but I still love it. Well done. |
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