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KS, USA
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Posted: 9/24/2022 10:40:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: pants222]
[#1]
Originally Posted By lsujim: Is there any way to fit an AEM5 on a 11.5 with fsb? I think this adapter would do the trick: https://ottercreeklabs.com/product/midway-adapter/ |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 5:11:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eruoen: I would assume the M4 can is quieter? How do they compare to each other? https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/Ops-Inc-Allen-Engineering-Picture-and-Discussion-Thread/20-445848/?page=61#i5602850 |
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USA
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Posted: 9/27/2022 1:03:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TyrannyOfTheMinority]
[#3]
Who's got experience with an AE M24/Ops 3rd on a bolt gun? All my Ops/AE stuff is AR centered, but Ron mentioning them a few pages back has my gears turning on project possibilities.
Pics? Range reports? Ideal barrel length without begin too long? Is ADCO still the best for doing the contouring (in the precision bolt gun world)? You know how it goes... dreaming up a fictional rifle that I can then use to rationalize buying a suppressor I have no gun for... which I can then use to rationalize buying another rifle I don't need. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 9:01:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TyrannyOfTheMinority: Who's got experience with an AE M24/Ops 3rd on a bolt gun? All my Ops/AE stuff is AR centered, but Ron mentioning them a few pages back has my gears turning on project possibilities. Pics? Range reports? Ideal barrel length without begin too long? Is ADCO still the best for doing the contouring (in the precision bolt gun world)? You know how it goes... dreaming up a fictional rifle that I can then use to rationalize buying a suppressor I have no gun for... which I can then use to rationalize buying another rifle I don't need. I've posted several pics over the last 10 or so pages. I love mine.  It's long and heavy. I wouldn't go any longer than a 24" barrel. For a fun-gun I would try to go as short as possible. I want to build a 12" 6.5 grendel bolt gun contoured for it. Maybe next year. The smith that built my rifle did my contour. It's nothing any competent smith couldn't handle. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 9/27/2022 6:56:27 PM EDT
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Someone please put one of the direct thread gordy cans on a 20inch rifle please!
Also, if not out of bounds, what are they running for? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/29/2022 5:14:28 PM EDT
[#6]
this is the best thread here in years. thanks, Ron Allen.... youse the Man!
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Posted: 9/29/2022 9:11:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UnknownPatriot: Looks like some Aem5 are available on e silencers. Saw the pic of their big stack for sale. Awesome to see all that hard work. Wonder what state these are marked. UnknownPatriot, thanks to your post. I was able to purchase one from John. And, they are market Sparks, NV. Forever thankful, Jim |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 6:56:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Garthe: UnknownPatriot, thanks to your post. I was able to purchase one from John. And, they are market Sparks, NV. Forever thankful, Jim  Attached FileWell done! For me the aem5 was my bucket list silencer. Just iconic. So grateful that I had the opportunity to buy one. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 10:49:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bradpierson26]
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UnknownPatriot: For me the aem5 was my bucket list silencer. Just iconic. So grateful that I had the opportunity to buy one. Same Very grateful to ADCO for hooking me up. Pending since 3-17 Very excited for it to clear Hard to be a silencer guy without one |
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USA
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Posted: 10/1/2022 11:37:25 PM EDT
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Thought you guys might find this comparison pic interesting. Took it while fiddling with some mounts and new collars. The middle one is a birdcage mount from Ron back in his Ops Inc days. Right hand side is a current production ADCO birdcage purchased recently.
The brake is sitting on the crush washer as that's what I typically install them with. The Ops flash hider came installed on some very thin shimming when I ordered it from HCS way back when. Have not installed the ADCO flash hider on anything yet - looks like a washer would be a no-go and it would need thin shims also in order to maintain the same relative location of threading for the suppressor.  And now that I post this pic, I see an M4S peeking in off the left edge of the frame... it's jealous, evidently. |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 1:29:15 PM EDT
[#11]
Sent an email on the website regarding purchasing a Gordon collar and AEMB.
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Posted: 10/4/2022 3:51:55 PM EDT
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I’ve had a CA MK12 barrel in the parts bin for a few years. Then I fell asleep at the wheel and did not buy a AEM5 when I would have. Now I got 6-12 months to get my shit together. Let the clone games begin...lol.
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Posted: 10/4/2022 6:56:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bimmertech87]
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I apologize if this has been asked before, anyone have specs on the Gordy can length and weight specifically?
For those who have experience with both the Gordy and the aem5 is having both a necessity for the Gordon rifle? I have the aem5 and am trying to justify getting the Gordy can. I know it ain’t cloning if it’s not the same. Just need the nudge. |
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Posted: 10/6/2022 10:35:51 PM EDT
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I have both, AEM5 on my MK12 and Gordy on a 14.5. The Gordy is 100% worth it, it's silly quiet for a 5.56/.223. I haven't personally experienced a .300 Blackout yet but people have mistaken my Gordy for one on both indoor and outdoor ranges.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/7/2022 12:53:57 AM EDT
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That's what I want to hear. I emailed a few weeks back about one too. Hope that another batch happens at some point. Wicked cool part of history to own.
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Posted: 10/7/2022 8:58:32 AM EDT
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Ok, I always thought the AEM5/OPS 12 was the Gordy can. What's the difference between a Gordy can and a AEM5?
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/7/2022 9:28:40 AM EDT
[#17]
4" reflex on the Gordy and 2" reflex on the AEM5. The Gordy threads directly onto the 1/2x28 threads of a 14.5 barrel without a need for a muzzle device, and the Gordy is a bit (1.5"?) longer.
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Posted: 10/7/2022 9:34:43 AM EDT
[#18]
I really want one for a heavy barrel .223 bolt gun the more I think about it…
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Posted: 10/7/2022 9:49:24 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eruoen: 4" reflex on the Gordy and 2" reflex on the AEM5. The Gordy threads directly onto the 1/2x28 threads of a 14.5 barrel without a need for a muzzle device, and the Gordy is a bit (1.5"?) longer. Thank you for the explanation. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 10/7/2022 11:07:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SaturationTech: I really want one for a heavy barrel .223 bolt gun the more I think about it… Was having this thought last night... like a howa mini |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 10/7/2022 3:24:35 PM EDT
[#21]
I hate myself for giving the uboat captain business but I bought one of the gordon barrel/m4 suppressor combos charlies had available.
Emailed Ron about them and never heard back so I figured it was my best bet to get one.. |
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Posted: 10/7/2022 7:19:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cowbell: Thank you for the explanation. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cowbell: Originally Posted By Eruoen: 4" reflex on the Gordy and 2" reflex on the AEM5. The Gordy threads directly onto the 1/2x28 threads of a 14.5 barrel without a need for a muzzle device, and the Gordy is a bit (1.5"?) longer. Thank you for the explanation. Gordon in the middle, AEM5 on the bottom. 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/7/2022 7:19:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Eruoen]
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Originally Posted By TigerHawk:I hate myself for giving the uboat captain business but I bought one of the gordon barrel/m4 suppressor combos charlies had available. Emailed Ron about them and never heard back so I figured it was my best bet to get one.. Yeah, that's what I was hoping to avoid myself.... |
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Posted: 10/7/2022 8:55:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TIML: Gordon in the middle, AEM5 on the bottom. https://i.postimg.cc/B6zBRGmB/Screenshot-20221008-011555-588.png Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TIML: Originally Posted By Cowbell: Originally Posted By Eruoen: 4" reflex on the Gordy and 2" reflex on the AEM5. The Gordy threads directly onto the 1/2x28 threads of a 14.5 barrel without a need for a muzzle device, and the Gordy is a bit (1.5"?) longer. Thank you for the explanation. Gordon in the middle, AEM5 on the bottom. https://i.postimg.cc/B6zBRGmB/Screenshot-20221008-011555-588.png Awesome collection. Thank you for the picture! |
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Posted: 10/7/2022 10:09:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eruoen: Yeah, that's what I was hoping to avoid myself.... Unfortunately that’s the times we live in. The stuff I’ve passed on months ago because of crazy prices I’d be glad to run across again. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 10/8/2022 6:20:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TyrannyOfTheMinority: Thought you guys might find this comparison pic interesting. Took it while fiddling with some mounts and new collars. The middle one is a birdcage mount from Ron back in his Ops Inc days. Right hand side is a current production ADCO birdcage purchased recently. The brake is sitting on the crush washer as that's what I typically install them with. The Ops flash hider came installed on some very thin shimming when I ordered it from HCS way back when. Have not installed the ADCO flash hider on anything yet - looks like a washer would be a no-go and it would need thin shims also in order to maintain the same relative location of threading for the suppressor. https://i.postimg.cc/d1qfryV5/Ops-AE-Mounts.jpg And now that I post this pic, I see an M4S peeking in off the left edge of the frame... it's jealous, evidently. I have an adco profiled howa with the adco A1 fh, ill get u a pic of what they used :) |
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Posted: 10/8/2022 12:25:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83: I have an adco profiled howa with the adco A1 fh, ill get u a pic of what they used :) Oem barrel or what? What’s the barrel profile? |
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Posted: 10/10/2022 5:24:28 PM EDT
[#28]
Just got off the phone with Ron. What an incredibly helpful and nice individual. Gordon collar has been ordered.
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USA
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Posted: 10/11/2022 11:34:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TyrannyOfTheMinority]
[#29]
For mounting an M24 model can on a bolt gun-
How much meat do I need on the barrel profile to machine in the mounting taper (i.e. outer diameter of bbl at aft end of suppressor)? Do I need a proper big boy M24 barrel profile to do it, or does it work with other "heavy" profiles like a Remington varmint style? Flagging for @k31user or @BigBore or @Shlouf |
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Posted: 10/12/2022 12:38:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Shlouf]
[#30]
0.92” min per the AE drawings. M24 can is the same as the ae30 just more reflex length and different thread pitch
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Posted: 10/12/2022 7:05:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TyrannyOfTheMinority: For mounting an M24 model can on a bolt gun- How much meat do I need on the barrel profile to machine in the mounting taper (i.e. outer diameter of bbl at aft end of suppressor)? Do I need a proper big boy M24 barrel profile to do it, or does it work with other "heavy" profiles like a Remington varmint style? Flagging for @k31user or @BigBore or @Shlouf .920 to contour directly into the barrel. A collar can be made for a bolt gun barrel just like an AR barrel. There are very few (almost none) factory bolt guns barrels that are big enough to not need a collar. |
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USA
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Posted: 10/13/2022 10:04:05 AM EDT
[#32]
Perfect. Thanks for the info, gents. I will go forth and conquer.
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Posted: 10/14/2022 3:10:05 PM EDT
[#33]
Hi guys, I just picked up a AEM5. Can the collar kit for the muzzle devise be used on a cage code colt socom 14.5” barrel? Or, is the profile of the barrel were in contacts the collar to big? Thank you for the help! Jim
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Posted: 10/14/2022 3:40:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Garthe: Hi guys, I just picked up a AEM5. Can the collar kit for the muzzle devise be used on a cage code colt socom 14.5” barrel? Or, is the profile of the barrel were in contacts the collar to big? Thank you for the help! Jim You need a M4 to AEM5 collar. SPR collar won't work on a M4 barrel without work. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:02:51 PM EDT
[#35]
Anyone know any nice rails that would provide a flush fit for a 16” SPR barrel?
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Posted: 10/15/2022 6:58:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stainlineho: Anyone know any nice rails that would provide a flush fit for a 16” SPR barrel? My KMR 13 is pretty close with a custom collar it looks nice. I’ll post a picture tomorrow morning of it. |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 1:07:54 AM EDT
[#37]
 Upper in question and a 12.5 project  .170 gap off the end of the rail |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 11:17:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: .920 to contour directly into the barrel. A collar can be made for a bolt gun barrel just like an AR barrel. There are very few (almost none) factory bolt guns barrels that are big enough to not need a collar. Can the contoured area be bead blasted or should it remain raw (perhaps blackened/phosphated at most)? |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 6:56:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Embittered: Can the contoured area be bead blasted or should it remain raw (perhaps blackened/phosphated at most)? doesn't matter either way |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 10/21/2022 12:17:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gremyashchy1911: https://i.imgur.com/P2oVI9Q.jpg Upper in question and a 12.5 project https://i.imgur.com/1UfKhIn.jpg .170 gap off the end of the rail Looks good! I went with a Midwest Industries combat rail in 13.375" and a 16" SPR barrel with the Ops contour. If my math isn't off, there should be about .1625 gap. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/23/2022 12:38:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stainlineho: Looks good! I went with a Midwest Industries combat rail in 13.375" and a 16" SPR barrel with the Ops contour. If my math isn't off, there should be about .1625 gap. That's goona look good together. Look forward to your posted picture. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 10/24/2022 10:27:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HaveBlue83]
[#42]
Pics of the Adco birdcage on a full adco profile/collar/fh install job from a few years back now.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 10/25/2022 4:10:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Wctrirn]
[#43]
Nevermind
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GA, USA
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Posted: 10/26/2022 11:29:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: stainlineho]
[#44]
Just waiting on a 3 slot pic rail section to actually attach the bipod...
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Posted: 10/26/2022 11:35:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: bradpierson26]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stainlineho: Just waiting on a 3 slot pic rail section to actually attach the bipod... https://i.imgur.com/jGXnL4F.jpg Fitment: https://i.imgur.com/43otxe9.jpg That’s an impressive gap. I like your rifle |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 11/1/2022 8:44:23 PM EDT
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Just finished the batch of M24's. As soon as they get back from cerakote I will start down the list. I did put the knurling on the front end
this time. |
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Posted: 11/1/2022 9:14:29 PM EDT
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@k31user
Are there any extras, or are they all spoken for? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/2/2022 1:56:51 AM EDT
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@k31user
Gordons going into production after? |
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USA
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Posted: 11/2/2022 10:06:05 AM EDT
[#49]
Is there a reputable place that has AEM5’s in stock ? I’m putting together a MK12 mod O.
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Posted: 11/2/2022 12:23:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By home_alone1: Is there a reputable place that has AEM5’s in stock ? I’m putting together a MK12 mod O. https://esilencers.com/product/allen-engineering-aem5-knurled-556/ |
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