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Posted: 1/5/2021 10:57:43 AM EDT
https://www.savagearms.com/impulse
I'm looking for a precision-like rifle in a couple months and this looks pretty interesting  Introducing Impulse | NEW American-Made Straight-Pull Rifle from Savage |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:02:33 AM EDT
[#1]
Interesting.
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:12:22 AM EDT
[#2]
Very cool
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:16:10 AM EDT
[#3]
Wow. I'm interested to see these come out and put through their paces by some of the gun channels on Youtube. I want to see how they hold up, and what their price point is. Hopeful for some Magnum calibers, standard or short configuration.
ETA: Savage website shows 300 WM and 300 WSM.... |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:17:02 AM EDT
[#4]
I want one.
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:25:08 AM EDT
[#5]
Neat.
Although I do see myself loading up some slightly hot handloads and locking myself out of the gun 
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:25:37 AM EDT
[#6]
I love savage rifles. My very first .22 rifle at seven years old was a savage and my current hunting setup is a savage.
But how in the world has savage not been sued in today’s political climate for their name by the woke crowd? Lol |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:31:14 AM EDT
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after watching what some European shooters are capable of with their straight pulls as far as speed and accuracy, I think it's cool as hell. Not sure why they are not popular here.
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:34:42 AM EDT
[#8]
Am I seeing their pics correctly? The receiver is used as a clamp to hold the barrel in place?
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Posted: 1/5/2021 12:04:30 PM EDT
[#9]
Isn't this similar to what Blaser does, but w/ BB's instead of a split collet?
I wonder if this is like Peter Fortner's patent (Heym30) |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 12:06:16 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Am I seeing their pics correctly? The receiver is used as a clamp to hold the barrel in place? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/33552/Savage1-1765032.jpg Oh I'm sure there's a pin or two in there as well... regardless, I will be watching this closely. Nice rifle, and definitely a "will buy" after they've been tested real world. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 12:07:27 PM EDT
[#11]
The ball bearing bolt lockup is pretty interesting. Probably wouldn’t take much dirt in there to cause problems, still, interesting.
Looks like the lockup happens in the barrel extension. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 12:16:40 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn't this similar to what Blaser does, but w/ BB's instead of a split collet? I wonder if this is like Peter Fortner's patent (Heym30) Blaser: 
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Posted: 1/5/2021 12:23:20 PM EDT
[#13]
Very cool
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Posted: 1/5/2021 12:25:05 PM EDT
[#14]
 @sgtlmj What are you trying to show me? I know how the Blaser rifle works, that's why I cited it. The bolt handle rotates and the cam spreads the split collet. It looks like the Savage does the same, but w/ BB's instead, like the Heym. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 12:27:43 PM EDT
[#15]
Looks really interesting. I'd like to try one out.
What's the weird bipod attachment on the predator version? |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 12:36:18 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://i.ibb.co/H719k5N/final-5ff49240f7b94a00d5194bfa-481405.gif @sgtlmj What are you trying to show me? I know how the Blaser rifle works, that's why I cited it. The bolt handle rotates and the cam spreads the split collet. It looks like the Savage does the same, but w/ BB's instead, like the Heym. Yup. Just helping your post out with a photo for the knowledge of the thread. I've always been fascinated by the Blaser action, but thought that a bit of sand could lock up the collet. I think the ball bearings would actually be more resistant to fouling. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 1:03:52 PM EDT
[#17]
Interesting but that seems like not a lot of mass for locking. Yea you got a circle of balls but how do the wear in and wear out over time, How well do they hold headspace over time, Massive Mauser lugs are a little more instilling of confidence.
Cool concept for sure but I wouldn’t want to be the beta tester. . That said I like the modern Savage efforts to push technology. My hat is off to them. (Except for ditching the old chief logo, that was a huge brand misstep) Very interesting with the user adjustable bolt angle. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 1:08:20 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting but that seems like not a lot of mass for locking. Yea you got a circle of balls but how do the wear in and wear out over time, How well do they hold headspace over time, Massive Mauser lugs are a little more instilling of confidence. Cool concept for sure but I wouldn’t want to be the beta tester. . That said I like the modern Savage efforts to push technology. My hat is off to them. (Except for ditching the old chief logo, that was a huge brand misstep) Good point! Even roller-locked HK firearms have some wear-in that has to be accounted for with + sized rollers. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 1:21:02 PM EDT
[#19]
I looked it over on their website. surprisingly no .223 rem caliber offering. Their predator model has 22-250 and 243 options.
Maybe they didn’t want to compete with that lighter varmint rig they sell with the action and barrel sharing the same piece of steel. That gun doesn’t excite me either. Too much the economy gun. I wish they made a mini 110 action. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 1:21:36 PM EDT
[#20]
I’m all for new designs in the bolt gun field, and I hope this one works. That is a lot of pressure held back by a half dozen bearings, I just hope it works as intended. You can imagine where that bolt will end up if the system fails.
I do like the direction Sig and Savage have gone using a lockup in a bbl extension. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 1:22:36 PM EDT
[#21]
Neat
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Posted: 1/5/2021 1:24:20 PM EDT
[#22]
If it wasn’t for the accu trigger I’d be all in...I’ll probably get one anyway.
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Posted: 1/5/2021 1:25:11 PM EDT
[#23]
I like it.
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Posted: 1/5/2021 1:26:18 PM EDT
[#24]
Locking using ball bearings? Gonna wait to see how this works out before buying
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Posted: 1/5/2021 1:34:23 PM EDT
[#25]
I like that they’re trying new stuff, even if it is ultimately a failure.
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Posted: 1/5/2021 2:04:18 PM EDT
[#26]
Its just a copy of the Heym SR30 design. With some small improvements.
 Heym SR30: Straight Pull Ball-Bearing Lock? |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 2:10:30 PM EDT
[#27]
Is the Fix not American made?
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Posted: 1/5/2021 2:42:37 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh I'm sure there's a pin r two in there as well... regardless, I will be watching this closely. Nice rifle, and definitely a "will buy" after they've been tested real world. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Am I seeing their pics correctly? The receiver is used as a clamp to hold the barrel in place? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/33552/Savage1-1765032.jpg Oh I'm sure there's a pin r two in there as well... regardless, I will be watching this closely. Nice rifle, and definitely a "will buy" after they've been tested real world. I doubt there are pins. This isn't new as the Desert Tech SRS has used the clamped in method for a long time now. The bolt locks into the barrel extension so it's not a problem. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 2:45:58 PM EDT
[#29]
Amazing. Switch barrel straight pull at Savage prices?
Would have cost about 4k to get this capability previously. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 3:01:57 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I like that they’re trying new stuff, even if it is ultimately a failure. You said it better than I could. It'll end up a footnote in the history books. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 3:03:13 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Good point! Even roller-locked HK firearms have some wear-in that has to be accounted for with + sized rollers. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Interesting but that seems like not a lot of mass for locking. Yea you got a circle of balls but how do the wear in and wear out over time, How well do they hold headspace over time, Massive Mauser lugs are a little more instilling of confidence. Cool concept for sure but I wouldn't want to be the beta tester. . That said I like the modern Savage efforts to push technology. My hat is off to them. (Except for ditching the old chief logo, that was a huge brand misstep) Good point! Even roller-locked HK firearms have some wear-in that has to be accounted for with + sized rollers. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 3:47:02 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I doubt there are pins. This isn't new as the Desert Tech SRS has used the clamped in method for a long time now. The bolt locks into the barrel extension so it's not a problem. The Blaser doesn't really have a receiver. The bolt slides into the barrel. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 3:54:40 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted: Is the Fix not American made? Is the Fix a straight pull? Thought it was conventional. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 3:56:14 PM EDT
[#34]
Someone leaked this a little while ago but the videos got yanked before I could watch them. Love new stuff.
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Posted: 1/5/2021 3:57:28 PM EDT
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Quoted: I looked it over on their website. surprisingly no .223 rem caliber offering. Their predator model has 22-250 and 243 options. Maybe they didn’t want to compete with that lighter varmint rig they sell with the action and barrel sharing the same piece of steel. That gun doesn’t excite me either. Too much the economy gun. I wish they made a mini 110 action. A mini 110 would be cool. They do the 25 but I don’t know how it’s constructed. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 4:03:58 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is the Fix a straight pull? Thought it was conventional. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is the Fix not American made? Is the Fix a straight pull? Thought it was conventional. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 4:16:44 PM EDT
[#37]
Very cool!
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Posted: 1/5/2021 4:20:33 PM EDT
[#38]
I like my K31 straight-pull rifle. Accurate, but hard to find the ammo for it. Also can't mount a big scope.
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Posted: 1/5/2021 4:27:16 PM EDT
[#39]
For straight pull, why not design it like a charging handle? Pull it back and let 'er rip closed via a spring.
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Posted: 1/5/2021 4:28:36 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted:Fix is straight pull. The Sig look alike is conventional. The fix is a 45 degree throw. IIRC the Sig is a 65 degree throw. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 4:29:52 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fix is straight pull. The Sig look alike is conventional. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Is the Fix not American made? Is the Fix a straight pull? Thought it was conventional. I don’t think you’re correct. Neither the Fix or Mini Fix is listed as a straight pull on the Q website and videos of them firing show conventional bolt movement. It says it’s 45 degrees in the descriptions. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 5:43:01 PM EDT
[#42]
If you have to thumb the button and straight pull back, how is this any faster than, say, a 45 degree turn?
Not hating, just don’t see the benefit. ETA I’ve shot a straight pull .22 but that’s it. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 5:53:48 PM EDT
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Quoted: For straight pull, why not design it like a charging handle? Pull it back and let 'er rip closed via a spring. Quoted: The fix is a 45 degree throw. IIRC the Sig is a 65 degree throw. Quoted: I don't think you're correct. Neither the Fix or Mini Fix is listed as a straight pull on the Q website and videos of them firing show conventional bolt movement. It says it's 45 degrees in the descriptions. Huh my bad. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 6:12:43 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: With no primary extraction you need some inertia developed to pop the case free is my guess. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: For straight pull, why not design it like a charging handle? Pull it back and let 'er rip closed via a spring. Extraction would happen when the shooter pulled the charging handle back. This is just a thought puzzle for me. What's the reason to manually drive the bolt forward for the feed and chambering? It could be made like a "gas-less" M14. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 6:22:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Extraction would happen when the shooter pulled the charging handle back. This is just a thought puzzle for me. What's the reason to manually drive the bolt forward for the feed and chambering? It could be made like a "gas-less" M14. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: For straight pull, why not design it like a charging handle? Pull it back and let 'er rip closed via a spring. Extraction would happen when the shooter pulled the charging handle back. This is just a thought puzzle for me. What's the reason to manually drive the bolt forward for the feed and chambering? It could be made like a "gas-less" M14. Now, if you further modified the M14 example so the charging handle wasn't fixed, but rode in a slot with some limited amount of travel so that you could start pulling it back with very little resistance and develop some inertia to start extraction, that would probably work just fine. The examples of AR15s converted to gasless straight pull guns are typically 300 blackout or 5.56 which don't need a lot of primary extraction so they work ok. But start getting into 22-250 and other higher volume cartridges and the problem becomes greater. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 6:29:46 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I want one. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 6:33:08 PM EDT
[#47]
Quoted: I looked it over on their website. surprisingly no .223 rem caliber offering. Their predator model has 22-250 and 243 options. Maybe they didn’t want to compete with that lighter varmint rig they sell with the action and barrel sharing the same piece of steel. That gun doesn’t excite me either. Too much the economy gun. I wish they made a mini 110 action. Quoted: For straight pull, why not design it like a charging handle? Pull it back and let 'er rip closed via a spring. Quoted: If you have to thumb the button and straight pull back, how is this any faster than, say, a 45 degree turn? Not hating, just don’t see the benefit. ETA I’ve shot a straight pull .22 but that’s it. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 7:09:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A. That would make it harder to pull back. B. Your hand is going to forward again anyways to get back to the trigger. C. You have to package the relatively large spring somewhere. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: For straight pull, why not design it like a charging handle? Pull it back and let 'er rip closed via a spring. I'll buy that. Thanks. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 7:20:02 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll buy that. Thanks. If that's what you really want, a side charge AR with the gas off would provide it. And let you shoot semi when desired. Can't get that in 300WM though.  I think Savage's gun is an interesting idea, but conventional bolts are ultimately simpler than a straight pull. I definitely wouldn't sell my model 10 to buy this. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 7:24:36 PM EDT
[#50]
I mean I understand. Don't want to buy the rifle I described. Already have enough of the M14 platforms.
 My bolt actions are Remington 700. |
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