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Guess I need to read through this thread. I’m at 14+ months on a form 1 and 4.
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Originally Posted By JustinHEMI04:
It's been a while since I've checked in on this thread, after receiving my last SBR stamp after waiting 10 months or so. It's now been six months since I submitted a F1 for another SBR and a F4 for a suppressor. Are we still at extreme wait times > 6 months? View Quote This is for people stuck in pending background check hell |
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"I'll loosen the restraints on your wrist a little and let you take something back from your purse if you let me sign you up to the gang bang of the month club after I break this bump stock off in your poop chute"- KalmanPhilter
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Originally Posted By Effenpig:
Have you called to check your status? You must have the patience of a saint... At 14 months I'd say you're either PBGC or your paperwork was lost View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Effenpig:
Originally Posted By 56cbr600rr:
Guess I need to read through this thread. I’m at 14+ months on a form 1 and 4. You must have the patience of a saint... At 14 months I'd say you're either PBGC or your paperwork was lost |
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Originally Posted By 56cbr600rr:
I’ve called several times. Background check status, not declined. Both my gun shops say they have several more the same. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 56cbr600rr:
Originally Posted By Effenpig:
Originally Posted By 56cbr600rr:
Guess I need to read through this thread. I’m at 14+ months on a form 1 and 4. You must have the patience of a saint... At 14 months I'd say you're either PBGC or your paperwork was lost Make sure you get an email or direct line for your examiner |
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"I'll loosen the restraints on your wrist a little and let you take something back from your purse if you let me sign you up to the gang bang of the month club after I break this bump stock off in your poop chute"- KalmanPhilter
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Originally Posted By Effenpig: I would say the first step is to keep calling and ask for your examiner until you actually get through. They can give you more detail than the people who answer the phone. Make sure you get an email or direct line for your examiner View Quote |
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Originally Posted By 56cbr600rr: Got it already. Said it's in background check status. Just now emailed him again. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By RLunyATL:
That's all the ATF will tell you. Who is your congressman? If they are pro-2A contact their office and have them raise hell with the FBI. It works. Be the squeaky wheel. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By RLunyATL:
That's all the ATF will tell you. Who is your congressman? If they are pro-2A contact their office and have them raise hell with the FBI. It works. Be the squeaky wheel. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By 56cbr600rr: Yeah, I think it's time. I'm north of Atlanta Georgia. I know Handel is one of them. I'll look and see who might be the most 2A friendly. View Quote |
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“By God, they sent us over here to kill communists, and that’s what we’re doing.” -Col. Hal Moore
"Paybacks a bitch and her stripper name is Karma" -saigamanTX |
Originally Posted By RLunyATL:
The NRA has been dumping money into her campaign. Contact her office, let them know the FBI is dicking you around with a background check that they have proven (in the case of firearms sales) they can complete in 72 hours. BE THE SQUEAKY WHEEL. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By 56cbr600rr: Thanks for the advice... just looked and realized it's a different district. Not sure how much that matters. My rep is Rob Woodall. Dont think he's as 2A friendly. View Quote |
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“By God, they sent us over here to kill communists, and that’s what we’re doing.” -Col. Hal Moore
"Paybacks a bitch and her stripper name is Karma" -saigamanTX |
Originally Posted By RLunyATL:
That's my congressman and who I contacted. Very helpful (see my posts from the last couple of pages). PM me if you want direct contact info instead of going through his website. View Quote |
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Just called ATF and confirmed all 4 have been approved.
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“By God, they sent us over here to kill communists, and that’s what we’re doing.” -Col. Hal Moore
"Paybacks a bitch and her stripper name is Karma" -saigamanTX |
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Originally Posted By jnsey: I wish some of these representatives would get tired of having to do this over and over and get it straightened out for good so that no one has to go through this shit. View Quote |
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“By God, they sent us over here to kill communists, and that’s what we’re doing.” -Col. Hal Moore
"Paybacks a bitch and her stripper name is Karma" -saigamanTX |
Originally Posted By RLunyATL:
Well, there are 2 other members here who have the same congressman I do. I've sent them both the contact info for the person I dealt with, along with copies of what I sent. I'm hoping he'll get tired of it too. If nothing else, he'll at least have the process down pat. View Quote |
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“By God, they sent us over here to kill communists, and that’s what we’re doing.” -Col. Hal Moore
"Paybacks a bitch and her stripper name is Karma" -saigamanTX |
Originally Posted By RLunyATL:
(301) 616-4500, NFA Branch, have your serial numbers handy when you call as well as the name of the transferor View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RLunyATL:
Originally Posted By ARegularGuy2424:
Any one the correct phone number needed? I can't seem to find one that isn't for crime related calls. I have 2 stamps in the process. One for a Sandman S check cashed 5/7/2018 and a SBR check cashed 4/22/2018. All submitted the same day. I have everything through SilencerShop as a trust and all it says is check cashed. These are my first stamps. So be gentle (304) 616-4500 |
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When all else fails, lower your expectations.
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Looks like you can add me to the list of FBI BGC black hole victims.
There is another man in another part of the country with the same first, middle and last name as me. We were also born on the same day. What are the odds of that?! Anyway, he has an extensive criminal record that has caused me headaches over the years. I wonder if this is somehow related. |
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When all else fails, lower your expectations.
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Originally Posted By JoshInReno:
Looks like you can add me to the list of FBI BGC black hole victims. There is another man in another part of the country with the same first, middle and last name as me. We were also born on the same day. What are the odds of that?! Anyway, he has an extensive criminal record that has caused me headaches over the years. I wonder if this is somehow related. View Quote |
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“Banana ammo clip containing 25 caliber rounds”
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Called today, only talked to the receptionist
my 2 Feb26 pending are FBI pending now, no date given, left voicemails with both examiners so these don't get stuck in another 12mo blackhole. my Mar29 is not FBI pending yet my Jul23 hasn't even been entered in the system so she transferred me to a specialist beacuse it should have been in Fuck the NFA |
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Originally Posted By Commando223:
Welcome to the club. When did yours get cashed? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Commando223:
Originally Posted By JoshInReno:
Looks like you can add me to the list of FBI BGC black hole victims. There is another man in another part of the country with the same first, middle and last name as me. We were also born on the same day. What are the odds of that?! Anyway, he has an extensive criminal record that has caused me headaches over the years. I wonder if this is somehow related. |
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When all else fails, lower your expectations.
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After reading this thread I decided to take further action. I have two Form 4s that have been over a year. I emailed a POC at the NFA branch on Monday. He emailed back saying they are both now approved. I have no idea if they were just backlogged or they fell through the cracks. In either case, next week I will have my cans
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“Fuck, it may have been a goat for all I know.” - Ridgedaddy
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As many of us have said (and experienced here) - if you're in this status you need to contact your reps.
It gets the FBI and ATF moving most rikki tik. In my case, the FBI "completed" my check the day they were contacted and within 2 weeks I had my stamps. They know they're fucking up. |
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Originally Posted By fettesbrotde:
As many of us have said (and experienced here) - if you're in this status you need to contact your reps. It gets the FBI and ATF moving most rikki tik. In my case, the FBI "completed" my check the day they were contacted and within 2 weeks I had my stamps. They know they're fucking up. View Quote |
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When all else fails, lower your expectations.
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Does anyone have an email contact at the NFA branch?
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Originally Posted By OilfieldTrash78:
Does anyone have an email contact at the NFA branch? View Quote |
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I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
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Originally Posted By JoshInReno:
Is there some sort of form letter I can send to my rep? Quite frankly I'm not even sure how to start the letter - not my strong suite. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JoshInReno:
Originally Posted By fettesbrotde:
As many of us have said (and experienced here) - if you're in this status you need to contact your reps. It gets the FBI and ATF moving most rikki tik. In my case, the FBI "completed" my check the day they were contacted and within 2 weeks I had my stamps. They know they're fucking up. We probably need a sticky for this but the main points are: -You paid $XXX in transfer taxes to the ATF x months ago. -That youre a law abiding citizen trying to follow the law and process. -The ATF has informed you that the FBI is stuck processing your background check -That you know its a NICS check and that it is taken longer than requires (with NTN if you can) -Let them know both agencies are pointing fingers at one another and you need the reps help to resolve. Its that straight forward. A staffer usually handles it. |
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Mine hasn't been forever or anything yet, but I called last week and was told it was "pending."
I probably missed it, but how do you find out if your approval is just simply "pending" vs "FBI pending" when you call? |
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Originally Posted By fettesbrotde:
Just write an honest letter We probably need a sticky for this but the main points are: -You paid $XXX in transfer taxes to the ATF x months ago. -That youre a law abiding citizen trying to follow the law and process. -The ATF has informed you that the FBI is stuck processing your background check -That you know its a NICS check and that it is taken longer than requires (with NTN if you can) -Let them know both agencies are pointing fingers at one another and you need the reps help to resolve. Its that straight forward. A staffer usually handles it. View Quote My Forms were both over a year and in FBI background check for longer than I remember. I emailed him and 2 days later both forms are approved. |
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“Fuck, it may have been a goat for all I know.” - Ridgedaddy
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Originally Posted By mississippicelery:
Mine hasn't been forever or anything yet, but I called last week and was told it was "pending." I probably missed it, but how do you find out if your approval is just simply "pending" vs "FBI pending" when you call? View Quote |
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“Fuck, it may have been a goat for all I know.” - Ridgedaddy
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Ok good. Nothing to worry about yet then I guess.
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Originally Posted By mississippicelery:
Ok good. Nothing to worry about yet then I guess. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By DoctorLove:
[email protected] He is a supervisor and will actually fix the problem. He is super busy, so be polite and understand he is actually on our side. Just send him an email about your situation and he will correct it. My Forms were both over a year and in FBI background check for longer than I remember. I emailed him and 2 days later both forms are approved. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DoctorLove:
Originally Posted By fettesbrotde:
Just write an honest letter We probably need a sticky for this but the main points are: -You paid $XXX in transfer taxes to the ATF x months ago. -That youre a law abiding citizen trying to follow the law and process. -The ATF has informed you that the FBI is stuck processing your background check -That you know its a NICS check and that it is taken longer than requires (with NTN if you can) -Let them know both agencies are pointing fingers at one another and you need the reps help to resolve. Its that straight forward. A staffer usually handles it. My Forms were both over a year and in FBI background check for longer than I remember. I emailed him and 2 days later both forms are approved. Thank you both very much. |
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When all else fails, lower your expectations.
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My 6 items that were submitted in Sep & Oct of last year and were stuck in FBI since February have all finally been put through and approved.
I have another 2 items that were submitted in March 18 and have been in FBI since 10/1 (possibly earlier, that's just the first time I called and got that status) I have another 9 items I need to submit and am pretty frustrated that this is happening still. I finally just wrote my representative (last Republican in the state) and asked fo help. I'll post an update here if I hear back from his office and if they're able to do anything. Glad to hear others are having luck with this route. It is election season though so it might be hard to get a response from them. |
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Originally Posted By TinyCrumb:
My 6 items that were submitted in Sep & Oct of last year and were stuck in FBI since February have all finally been put through and approved. I have another 2 items that were submitted in March 18 and have been in FBI since 10/1 (possibly earlier, that's just the first time I called and got that status) I have another 9 items I need to submit and am pretty frustrated that this is happening still. I finally just wrote my representative (last Republican in the state) and asked fo help. I'll post an update here if I hear back from his office and if they're able to do anything. Glad to hear others are having luck with this route. It is election season though so it might be hard to get a response from them. View Quote |
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When all else fails, lower your expectations.
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Originally Posted By JoshInReno: This is the exact reason I am emailing Ted first before writing my representative. View Quote |
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“Fuck, it may have been a goat for all I know.” - Ridgedaddy
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Originally Posted By DoctorLove:
I have heard of people emailing him and get frustrated that they haven't gotten a response, but then a day or two later, they learn their stuff was approved. So, if he doesn't email back and forth, understand he is doing stuff behind the scenes. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DoctorLove:
Originally Posted By JoshInReno: This is the exact reason I am emailing Ted first before writing my representative. |
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"I'll loosen the restraints on your wrist a little and let you take something back from your purse if you let me sign you up to the gang bang of the month club after I break this bump stock off in your poop chute"- KalmanPhilter
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Ted Clutter has been a tremendous help in the past with several Form 4s with various issues. I’ve discussed the issue of other forms in “FBI background check” status, and there is nothing he can do about that situation. No point in bothering him about that stuff.
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I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
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I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
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Originally Posted By DoctorLove:
I have heard of people emailing him and get frustrated that they haven't gotten a response, but then a day or two later, they learn their stuff was approved. So, if he doesn't email back and forth, understand he is doing stuff behind the scenes. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DoctorLove:
Originally Posted By JoshInReno: This is the exact reason I am emailing Ted first before writing my representative. He agreed to look into the issue and get back to me sometime next week. |
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When all else fails, lower your expectations.
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Originally Posted By bigbore:
Ted Clutter has been a tremendous help in the past with several Form 4s with various issues. I've discussed the issue of other forms in "FBI background check" status, and there is nothing he can do about that situation. No point in bothering him about that stuff. View Quote Seriously, you have nothing to lose. |
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Originally Posted By JoshInReno: Cashed 03/10/2018 View Quote |
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I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
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Originally Posted By fettesbrotde:
Yep, and thats why people stuck in this need to contact their reps as many of us have repeated. Seriously, you have nothing to lose. View Quote |
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I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
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“Fuck, it may have been a goat for all I know.” - Ridgedaddy
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Originally Posted By DoctorLove:
My Form 4s were in eternal FBI Background check. I emailed him and two days later both forms were approved. View Quote When was your check cashed? I think we need to make note of what people are considering "eternal". 7 Months has been the average turn around for more than a year now. |
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I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
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Originally Posted By bigbore: I'll pass that on to my customers once again, but they almost all are in the same district which is represented by a gun grabbing Democrat and dont want to waste their time. View Quote Your comment about March timelines isn't necessarily 100% true. My two items currently in FBI purgatory were received early March and have been in FBI background check since Oct 1. So it is possible that some people with March dates are already in it. And the earlier you catch it the better. |
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