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Link Posted: 10/27/2018 11:04:42 PM EDT
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Guess I need to read through this thread.  I’m at 14+ months on a form 1 and 4.
Link Posted: 10/27/2018 11:30:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JustinHEMI04:

It's been a while since I've checked in on this thread, after receiving my last SBR stamp after waiting 10 months or so.

It's now been six months since I submitted a F1 for another SBR and a F4 for a suppressor.

Are we still at extreme wait times > 6 months?
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I think you wanted the wait times thread

This is for people stuck in pending background check hell
Link Posted: 10/27/2018 11:32:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 56cbr600rr:
Guess I need to read through this thread.  I’m at 14+ months on a form 1 and 4.
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Have you called to check your status?

You must have the patience of a saint...

At 14 months I'd say you're either PBGC or your paperwork was lost
Link Posted: 10/27/2018 11:48:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Effenpig:

I think you wanted the wait times thread

This is for people stuck in pending background check hell
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Ah thanks. That's what it was for my last round. They haven't stated that yet this time.
Link Posted: 10/28/2018 12:11:54 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/28/2018 1:40:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Effenpig:
Have you called to check your status?

You must have the patience of a saint...

At 14 months I'd say you're either PBGC or your paperwork was lost
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Originally Posted By Effenpig:
Originally Posted By 56cbr600rr:
Guess I need to read through this thread.  I’m at 14+ months on a form 1 and 4.
Have you called to check your status?

You must have the patience of a saint...

At 14 months I'd say you're either PBGC or your paperwork was lost
I’ve called several times.  Background check status, not declined. Both my gun shops say they have several more the same.
Link Posted: 10/28/2018 2:08:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 56cbr600rr:
I’ve called several times.  Background check status, not declined. Both my gun shops say they have several more the same.
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Originally Posted By 56cbr600rr:
Originally Posted By Effenpig:
Originally Posted By 56cbr600rr:
Guess I need to read through this thread.  I’m at 14+ months on a form 1 and 4.
Have you called to check your status?

You must have the patience of a saint...

At 14 months I'd say you're either PBGC or your paperwork was lost
I’ve called several times.  Background check status, not declined. Both my gun shops say they have several more the same.
I would say the first step is to keep calling and ask for your examiner until you actually get through. They can give you more detail than the people who answer the phone.

Make sure you get an email or direct line for your examiner
Link Posted: 10/28/2018 2:18:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Effenpig:

I would say the first step is to keep calling and ask for your examiner until you actually get through. They can give you more detail than the people who answer the phone.

Make sure you get an email or direct line for your examiner
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Got it already.   Said it’s in background check status.  Just now emailed him again.
Link Posted: 10/28/2018 4:09:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 56cbr600rr:

Got it already.   Said it's in background check status.  Just now emailed him again.
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That's all the ATF will tell you. Who is your congressman? If they are pro-2A contact their office and have them raise hell with the FBI. It works. Be the squeaky wheel.
Link Posted: 10/28/2018 4:25:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RLunyATL:
That's all the ATF will tell you. Who is your congressman? If they are pro-2A contact their office and have them raise hell with the FBI. It works. Be the squeaky wheel.
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We as gun owners should hold mass call in campaigns to our reps every other week about the wait times. Even 1 month is too long. Just might get some of them to fix the problem for good. I mean Christ, the libs do put in more effort when a chicken sandwich restaurant owner says he believes in what the bible says. Or Walmart sells a T-shirt that could be construed the wrong way if your head is in a vice and you drank 2 gallons of vodka.
Link Posted: 10/28/2018 7:54:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RLunyATL:
That's all the ATF will tell you. Who is your congressman? If they are pro-2A contact their office and have them raise hell with the FBI. It works. Be the squeaky wheel.
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Yeah, I think it’s time. I’m north of Atlanta Georgia. I know Handel is one of them. I’ll look and  see who might be the most 2A friendly.
Link Posted: 10/28/2018 8:53:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 56cbr600rr:

Yeah, I think it's time. I'm north of Atlanta Georgia. I know Handel is one of them. I'll look and  see who might be the most 2A friendly.
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The NRA has been dumping money into her campaign. Contact her office, let them know the FBI is dicking you around with a background check that they have proven (in the case of firearms sales) they can complete in 72 hours. BE THE SQUEAKY WHEEL.
Link Posted: 10/28/2018 9:37:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RLunyATL:
The NRA has been dumping money into her campaign. Contact her office, let them know the FBI is dicking you around with a background check that they have proven (in the case of firearms sales) they can complete in 72 hours. BE THE SQUEAKY WHEEL.
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Thanks for the advice...   just looked and realized it’s a different district.  Not sure how much that matters.  My rep is Rob Woodall.  Dont think he’s as 2A friendly.
Link Posted: 10/28/2018 9:45:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 56cbr600rr:

Thanks for the advice...   just looked and realized it's a different district.  Not sure how much that matters.  My rep is Rob Woodall.  Dont think he's as 2A friendly.
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That's my congressman and who I contacted. Very helpful (see my posts from the last couple of pages).  PM me if you want direct contact info instead of going through his website.
Link Posted: 10/28/2018 10:46:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RLunyATL:
That's my congressman and who I contacted. Very helpful (see my posts from the last couple of pages).  PM me if you want direct contact info instead of going through his website.
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Just read through the thread.  Thanks.  Definitely interested in that info.  Ill pm you tomorrow with a couple of other questions as well.
Link Posted: 10/30/2018 3:09:30 PM EDT
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Just called ATF and confirmed all 4 have been approved.
Link Posted: 10/31/2018 1:03:08 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RLunyATL:
Just called ATF and confirmed all 4 have been approved.
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I wish some of these representatives would get tired of having to do this over and over and get it straightened out for good so that no one has to go through this shit.
Link Posted: 10/31/2018 9:37:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By jnsey:

I wish some of these representatives would get tired of having to do this over and over and get it straightened out for good so that no one has to go through this shit.
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Well, there are 2 other members here who have the same congressman I do. I've sent them both the contact info for the person I dealt with, along with copies of what I sent. I'm hoping he'll get tired of it too. If nothing else, he'll at least have the process down pat.
Link Posted: 10/31/2018 9:45:57 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RLunyATL:

Well, there are 2 other members here who have the same congressman I do. I've sent them both the contact info for the person I dealt with, along with copies of what I sent. I'm hoping he'll get tired of it too. If nothing else, he'll at least have the process down pat.
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Is it Doug Collins?
Link Posted: 10/31/2018 11:40:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors:

Is it Doug Collins?
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Rob Woodall
Link Posted: 10/31/2018 3:51:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RLunyATL:
(301) 616-4500, NFA Branch, have your serial numbers handy when you call as well as the name of the transferor
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Originally Posted By ARegularGuy2424:
Any one the correct phone number needed? I can't seem to find one that isn't for crime related calls. I have 2 stamps in the process. One for a Sandman S check cashed 5/7/2018 and a SBR check cashed 4/22/2018. All submitted the same day. I have everything through SilencerShop as a trust and all it says is check cashed. These are my first stamps. So be gentle
(301) 616-4500, NFA Branch, have your serial numbers handy when you call as well as the name of the transferor
In case anyone else dials the wrong number, it appears the correct number for the NFA Branch is:

(304) 616-4500

Link Posted: 10/31/2018 4:07:45 PM EDT
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Looks like you can add me to the list of FBI BGC black hole victims.

There is another man in another part of the country with the same first, middle and last name as me. We were also born on the same day. What are the odds of that?!

Anyway, he has an extensive criminal record that has caused me headaches over the years. I wonder if this is somehow related.
Link Posted: 10/31/2018 4:10:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JoshInReno:
Looks like you can add me to the list of FBI BGC black hole victims.

There is another man in another part of the country with the same first, middle and last name as me. We were also born on the same day. What are the odds of that?!

Anyway, he has an extensive criminal record that has caused me headaches over the years. I wonder if this is somehow related.
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Welcome to the club. When did yours get cashed?
Link Posted: 10/31/2018 5:02:34 PM EDT
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Called today, only talked to the receptionist

my 2 Feb26 pending are FBI pending now, no date given, left voicemails with both examiners so these don't get stuck in another 12mo blackhole.

my Mar29 is not FBI pending yet

my Jul23 hasn't even been entered in the system so she transferred me to a specialist beacuse it should have been in

Fuck the NFA
Link Posted: 10/31/2018 5:26:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Commando223:
Welcome to the club. When did yours get cashed?
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Originally Posted By Commando223:
Originally Posted By JoshInReno:
Looks like you can add me to the list of FBI BGC black hole victims.

There is another man in another part of the country with the same first, middle and last name as me. We were also born on the same day. What are the odds of that?!

Anyway, he has an extensive criminal record that has caused me headaches over the years. I wonder if this is somehow related.
Welcome to the club. When did yours get cashed?
Cashed 03/10/2018
Link Posted: 11/1/2018 10:46:53 AM EDT
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After reading this thread I decided to take further action. I have two Form 4s that have been over a year. I emailed a POC at the NFA branch on Monday. He emailed back saying they are both now approved. I have no idea if they were just backlogged or they fell through the cracks. In either case, next week I will have my cans
Link Posted: 11/1/2018 12:18:27 PM EDT
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As many of us have said (and experienced here) - if you're in this status you need to contact your reps.

It gets the FBI and ATF moving most rikki tik. In my case, the FBI "completed" my check the day they were contacted and within 2 weeks I had my stamps. They know they're fucking up.
Link Posted: 11/1/2018 12:43:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By fettesbrotde:
As many of us have said (and experienced here) - if you're in this status you need to contact your reps.

It gets the FBI and ATF moving most rikki tik. In my case, the FBI "completed" my check the day they were contacted and within 2 weeks I had my stamps. They know they're fucking up.
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Is there some sort of form letter I can send to my rep? Quite frankly I'm not even sure how to start the letter - not my strong suite.
Link Posted: 11/1/2018 12:47:41 PM EDT
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Does anyone have an email contact at the NFA branch?
Link Posted: 11/1/2018 1:25:14 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/1/2018 2:10:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JoshInReno:
Is there some sort of form letter I can send to my rep? Quite frankly I'm not even sure how to start the letter - not my strong suite.
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Originally Posted By JoshInReno:
Originally Posted By fettesbrotde:
As many of us have said (and experienced here) - if you're in this status you need to contact your reps.

It gets the FBI and ATF moving most rikki tik. In my case, the FBI "completed" my check the day they were contacted and within 2 weeks I had my stamps. They know they're fucking up.
Is there some sort of form letter I can send to my rep? Quite frankly I'm not even sure how to start the letter - not my strong suite.
Just write an honest letter

We probably need a sticky for this but the main points are:
-You paid $XXX in transfer taxes to the ATF x months ago.
-That youre a law abiding citizen trying to follow the law and process.
-The ATF has informed you that the FBI is stuck processing your background check
-That you know its a NICS check and that it is taken longer than requires (with NTN if you can)
-Let them know both agencies are pointing fingers at one another and you need the reps help to resolve.

Its that straight forward. A staffer usually handles it.
Link Posted: 11/1/2018 3:00:18 PM EDT
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Mine hasn't been forever or anything yet, but I called last week and was told it was "pending."

I probably missed it, but how do you find out if your approval is just simply "pending" vs "FBI pending" when you call?
Link Posted: 11/1/2018 3:02:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By fettesbrotde:
Just write an honest letter

We probably need a sticky for this but the main points are:
-You paid $XXX in transfer taxes to the ATF x months ago.
-That youre a law abiding citizen trying to follow the law and process.
-The ATF has informed you that the FBI is stuck processing your background check
-That you know its a NICS check and that it is taken longer than requires (with NTN if you can)
-Let them know both agencies are pointing fingers at one another and you need the reps help to resolve.

Its that straight forward. A staffer usually handles it.
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[email protected] He is a supervisor and will actually fix the problem. He is super busy, so be polite and understand he is actually on our side.  Just send him an email about your situation and he will correct it.

My Forms were both over a year and in FBI background check for longer than I remember. I emailed him and 2 days later both forms are approved.
Link Posted: 11/1/2018 3:03:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mississippicelery:
Mine hasn't been forever or anything yet, but I called last week and was told it was "pending."

I probably missed it, but how do you find out if your approval is just simply "pending" vs "FBI pending" when you call?
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Pending just means standing by. If you call after awhile they will tell you that it is in the FBI background check.
Link Posted: 11/1/2018 3:11:24 PM EDT
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Ok good. Nothing to worry about yet then I guess.
Link Posted: 11/1/2018 3:16:06 PM EDT
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Ok good. Nothing to worry about yet then I guess.
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I've got two that have been approved recently.  1st one was end of march and 206 days from check cashed to approved.   2nd was beginning of April and 210 days from check cashed to approved.    From my limited sample I'm assuming about 210 days from cashed to approved and that's consistent w/ what I'm seeing on NFA Tracker if there aren't any issues.
Link Posted: 11/1/2018 5:30:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DoctorLove:
[email protected] He is a supervisor and will actually fix the problem. He is super busy, so be polite and understand he is actually on our side.  Just send him an email about your situation and he will correct it.

My Forms were both over a year and in FBI background check for longer than I remember. I emailed him and 2 days later both forms are approved.
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Originally Posted By DoctorLove:
Originally Posted By fettesbrotde:
Just write an honest letter

We probably need a sticky for this but the main points are:
-You paid $XXX in transfer taxes to the ATF x months ago.
-That youre a law abiding citizen trying to follow the law and process.
-The ATF has informed you that the FBI is stuck processing your background check
-That you know its a NICS check and that it is taken longer than requires (with NTN if you can)
-Let them know both agencies are pointing fingers at one another and you need the reps help to resolve.

Its that straight forward. A staffer usually handles it.
[email protected] He is a supervisor and will actually fix the problem. He is super busy, so be polite and understand he is actually on our side.  Just send him an email about your situation and he will correct it.

My Forms were both over a year and in FBI background check for longer than I remember. I emailed him and 2 days later both forms are approved.
I'm going to email Ted first. If that doesn't work I'll write my rep.

Thank you both very much.
Link Posted: 11/1/2018 5:34:20 PM EDT
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My 6 items that were submitted in Sep & Oct of last year and were stuck in FBI since February have all finally been put through and approved.

I have another 2 items that were submitted in March 18 and have been in FBI since 10/1 (possibly earlier, that's just the first time I called and got that status)

I have another 9 items I need to submit and am pretty frustrated that this is happening still. I finally just wrote my representative (last Republican in the state) and asked fo help. I'll post an update here if I hear back from his office and if they're able to do anything. Glad to hear others are having luck with this route. It is election season though so it might be hard to get a response from them.
Link Posted: 11/1/2018 5:43:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TinyCrumb:
My 6 items that were submitted in Sep & Oct of last year and were stuck in FBI since February have all finally been put through and approved.

I have another 2 items that were submitted in March 18 and have been in FBI since 10/1 (possibly earlier, that's just the first time I called and got that status)

I have another 9 items I need to submit and am pretty frustrated that this is happening still. I finally just wrote my representative (last Republican in the state) and asked fo help. I'll post an update here if I hear back from his office and if they're able to do anything. Glad to hear others are having luck with this route. It is election season though so it might be hard to get a response from them.
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This is the exact reason I am emailing Ted first before writing my representative.
Link Posted: 11/1/2018 6:17:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JoshInReno:

This is the exact reason I am emailing Ted first before writing my representative.
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I have heard of people emailing him and get frustrated that they haven't gotten a response, but then a day or two later, they learn their stuff was approved. So, if he doesn't email back and forth, understand he is doing stuff behind the scenes.
Link Posted: 11/1/2018 9:02:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DoctorLove:
I have heard of people emailing him and get frustrated that they haven't gotten a response, but then a day or two later, they learn their stuff was approved. So, if he doesn't email back and forth, understand he is doing stuff behind the scenes.
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Originally Posted By DoctorLove:
Originally Posted By JoshInReno:

This is the exact reason I am emailing Ted first before writing my representative.
I have heard of people emailing him and get frustrated that they haven't gotten a response, but then a day or two later, they learn their stuff was approved. So, if he doesn't email back and forth, understand he is doing stuff behind the scenes.
Where did you hear this? I haven't seen where he's done anything for people stuck in pending bgc
Link Posted: 11/1/2018 9:10:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DoctorLove:
I have heard of people emailing him and get frustrated that they haven't gotten a response, but then a day or two later, they learn their stuff was approved. So, if he doesn't email back and forth, understand he is doing stuff behind the scenes.
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Originally Posted By DoctorLove:
Originally Posted By JoshInReno:

This is the exact reason I am emailing Ted first before writing my representative.
I have heard of people emailing him and get frustrated that they haven't gotten a response, but then a day or two later, they learn their stuff was approved. So, if he doesn't email back and forth, understand he is doing stuff behind the scenes.
Ted emailed me back within a few hours of my message. Now that is service!

He agreed to look into the issue and get back to me sometime next week.
Link Posted: 11/2/2018 2:13:46 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By bigbore:
Ted Clutter has been a tremendous help in the past with several Form 4s with various issues.  I've discussed the issue of other forms in "FBI background check" status, and there is nothing he can do about that situation.  No point in bothering him about that stuff.
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Yep, and thats why people stuck in this need to contact their reps as many of us have repeated.

Seriously, you have nothing to lose.
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That’s because he can’t do anything for anyone stuck in “pending” due to the FBI.
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My Form 4s were in eternal FBI Background check. I emailed him and two days later both forms were approved.
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I'll pass that on to my customers once again, but they almost all are in the same district which is represented by a gun grabbing Democrat and dont want to waste their time.
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If I'm reading correct and your customers are in Ohio, it looks like you guys still have a Repub Senator no? That would most likely be the best channel. I know it's annoying but if one email gets them out of purgatory, it's worth it IMO.

Your comment about March timelines isn't necessarily 100% true. My two items currently in FBI purgatory were received early March and have been in FBI background check since Oct 1. So it is possible that some people with March dates are already in it. And the earlier you catch it the better.
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