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Posted: 5/12/2018 3:59:48 PM EDT
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I use CCI SV. Stays subsonic, accuracy is very good, not pricey. I can get groups at 100 meters of close to an inch to 1.5 consistently. Holdover is a few inches at 100. At 150 I need around 10" of holdover. I clean my 22 cans about every 500-800 rounds. From other types, I don't really notice how much leading, I don't think the difference is much for me.
Jacketed 22 would probably make it more expensive. What can are you using? I shoot out a Savage FVSR II with a Spectre II. I use a Ruger 22/45 Lite with a Dead Air Mask. |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 4:03:46 PM EDT
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I use CCI standard in my 2 sparrows.
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Posted: 5/12/2018 4:06:27 PM EDT
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I think the Air Force had a FMJ .22 LR loading way back for aircrew survival situations. Not an easy thing to do with the heal of the bullet into the case design. 22 WMR would lend itself to a FMJ SS loading.
I've had the best luck with CCI 45 grain SS HP, (CCI product number 957), Gemtech 42 gr. if you don't need a HP, and Winchesters 42 grain HP SS loading in my mostly Kidd 10/22, but I had to use the lightest recoil spring Kidd sells. Leading is just the way it is. I have 2 Sparrows and rotate them out. One is use, one soaking/being cleaned. |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 4:24:18 PM EDT
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CCI Standard. It's the only load we use.
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Posted: 5/12/2018 4:40:49 PM EDT
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CCI SV for me as well. It's readily available, reasonably priced and consistent.
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Posted: 5/12/2018 5:02:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/12/2018 5:03:08 PM EDT
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CCI SV for me as well. It's readily available, reasonably priced and consistent. 
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Posted: 5/12/2018 5:12:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Freakin rich people. Remington golden bullets so I can practice malfunction drills Oh, Brad Walmart is selling the buckets of the golden for $74, if you enjoy aggravation. 
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Posted: 5/12/2018 5:14:01 PM EDT
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Gemtech subsonic, CCI SV and Federal American Eagle Suppressor ammo have all been good to me.
I'd like to buy a brick or two of the AE and use it for a while to see if the copper washed bullets really do help cut down on leading, but everywhere I look, it's out of stock. |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 5:32:55 PM EDT
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Gemtech subsonic, CCI SV and Federal American Eagle Suppressor ammo have all been good to me. I'd like to buy a brick or two of the AE and use it for a while to see if the copper washed bullets really do help cut down on leading, but everywhere I look, it's out of stock. |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 5:42:09 PM EDT
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Is there FMJ .22 LR ammo? If not, why not? What .22 LR subsonic ammo has the least amount of leading for a suppressor? |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 6:03:55 PM EDT
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Eh, sometimes the juice is worth the squeeze! I like shooting, not trying to fire duds or hung rounds. Try it! Oh, Brad Walmart is selling the buckets of the golden for $74, if you enjoy aggravation. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Freakin rich people. Remington golden bullets so I can practice malfunction drills Oh, Brad Walmart is selling the buckets of the golden for $74, if you enjoy aggravation. 
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Posted: 5/12/2018 6:49:36 PM EDT
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I just ordered a 5000 round case of CCI SV from sg ammo. Good stuff.
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Posted: 5/12/2018 6:50:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/12/2018 6:52:13 PM EDT
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So, if I've decided to use a copper plated bullet, which is the best of them? The AE Suppressor?
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Posted: 5/12/2018 7:15:31 PM EDT
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So, if I've decided to use a copper plated bullet, which is the best of them? The AE Suppressor? |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 7:18:10 PM EDT
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In case you can't find it cheaper:
https://www.ammunitiondepot.com/598-federal-american-eagle-suppressor-22-lr-42-grain-subsonic-lrn.html Edited to Add: This is 45-grain ammo, IIRC, despite the site saying this is 42-grain. I've ordered lots of ammo from this site and I recommend them. |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 7:24:49 PM EDT
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I have seen some lead free .22lr ammunition out there. It would probably keep the leading down to a minimum, but all I have seen was high velocity lightweight stuff.
CCI copper-22 is 21gr 1850fps. I have went to only buying cci sv. I am selling the remainder of my hv stuff to a guy at work. It’s definitely dirty, but it sounds and shoots great in both my 10/22 and s&w victory. 1/2” or less groups at 50yds with my 10/22 and my pistol will shoot a 5-6” group at 85yds if I do my part. CCI sv cycles reliably, and goes bang every time so far at least. |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 7:46:03 PM EDT
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Another vote for CCI Standard. I haven't really shot enough other subsonics to see how dirty they make the can.
Sparrow SS, specifically cause I liked that I can easily open it up to clean it. I cleaned it after the first 500 rounds of mixed stuff and was like "Wow, this isn't isn't very dirty!" I figure I'll open it up again around 1500 rounds and see what it looks like. |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 11:24:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/12/2018 11:40:02 PM EDT
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I see great performance out of CCI SV in my 16"+ guns... its clean, very accurate, and reliable. In pistols or SBRs I use bulk pack, I prefer to use automatch if i can find it since it will stay subsonic out of the short barrels and provides enough oomph to cycle everything.
-Mike |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 11:58:14 PM EDT
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If you are shooting a pistol then you can use any high velocity copper washed ammo, like Federal bulk packs. It won’t break the sound barrier in a 5” barrel. It won’t be as quiet as subsonic ammo, but it will at least cycle the action reliably. That’s what I use for cheap plinking.
For everything else, including rifles, I use CCI Standard Velocity. No, it isn’t copper washed, but it isn’t as dirty as the cheap stuff, plus it is far more reliable, it cycles the action, and it is subsonic. If you want the quietest then use CCI Subsonic or other brands listed as subsonic. They probably won’t cycle the action, and will have ballistics more like a .22 Short (might need to adjust your sights), but they are very quiet. Something else you could do since the gun won’t cycle anyways is just manually load .22 shorts into the chamber. |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 11:58:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Freakin rich people. Remington golden bullets so I can practice malfunction drills |
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Posted: 5/13/2018 12:35:22 AM EDT
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When your blowing through .22 like mad with a binary trigger the Remington bucket of goldens are the way to go. Clear the jams and continue on. I ain't rich and cheap in bulk like that it still adds up fast lol. My Kidd 10/22 really likes the Norma match stuff. Being match its subsonic and very accurate through the Kidd barrel and Mask out front. Lately Midway has been pricing it on sale and I've been stocking up when I can on it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Freakin rich people. Remington golden bullets so I can practice malfunction drills golden bullets are my last resort and i get trying to save a couple bucks when shooting a lot. In this case the savings aren't worth it for me, especially since automatch can be had for under .05 per round pretty consistently. Usually the difference between automatch and golden bullets is measured in 1/10ths of a cent per round and it isn't always the golden bullets that are cheaper when I'm looking. A couple FTFs per box (we all know they will happen with the remingtons) and any savings are completely wiped away. Even if both were 100% reliable, it takes 1000 rounds to save $1 per 1/10th of a cent difference. -Mike |
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Posted: 5/13/2018 2:17:14 AM EDT
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Gemtech subsonic, CCI SV and Federal American Eagle Suppressor ammo have all been good to me. I'd like to buy a brick or two of the AE and use it for a while to see if the copper washed bullets really do help cut down on leading, but everywhere I look, it's out of stock. |
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Posted: 5/13/2018 8:03:10 AM EDT
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Gemtech subsonic, CCI SV and Federal American Eagle Suppressor ammo have all been good to me. I'd like to buy a brick or two of the AE and use it for a while to see if the copper washed bullets really do help cut down on leading, but everywhere I look, it's out of stock.
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Posted: 5/13/2018 8:32:43 AM EDT
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https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1301310307/cci-quik-shok-ammunition-22-long-rifle-subsonic-40-grain-plated-lead-hollow-point
currently on sale. Accurate, quiet and effective |
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Posted: 5/13/2018 9:04:52 AM EDT
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https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1301310307/cci-quik-shok-ammunition-22-long-rifle-subsonic-40-grain-plated-lead-hollow-point currently on sale. Accurate, quiet and effective https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1311355856/norma-usa-match-22-ammunition-22-long-rifle-40-grain-lead-round-nose This is the Norma Match that works really well in my KIDD barrel. Sadly its not on sale and Midway is out of stock at the moment. |
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Posted: 5/13/2018 9:14:39 AM EDT
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The Aquila subsonic is quieter in my 10/22 the CCI SV
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Posted: 5/13/2018 9:56:57 AM EDT
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My main 22 LR ammo has been CCI SV since I got my first can in 2007, no ragerts. The only high velocity stuff I buy now is blazer for my belt-fed which still suppresses ok but the crack is, of course, present.
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Posted: 5/13/2018 10:11:24 AM EDT
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The Aquila subsonic is quieter in my 10/22 the CCI SV |
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Posted: 5/13/2018 11:00:44 AM EDT
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I shoot all my .22 rifles, pistols suppressed.
My go to round is the CCI subsonic, and the Gemtech subsonic. I bought a full case of each. With the the CCI segmented sub's on sale, I'm getting a case of it to bring down the vermin I eliminate at night. I like the thought of the segmented round to add punch to my kills. |
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Posted: 5/13/2018 3:53:53 PM EDT
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Like others have said I prefer CCI SV when suppressing .22 (which is a pretty much all the time I shoot .22). I like it particularly because it cycles in my .22 AR, my 10/22 and my incredibly picky - borderline POS - M&P 22 pistol.
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Posted: 5/13/2018 5:19:59 PM EDT
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From a vendor or a private individual? That's a heck of a good price from a vendor. Brownell's had it for $26.99, then a 10% off code, and free shipping. I got 3K for ~$145. |
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Posted: 5/13/2018 5:47:25 PM EDT
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CCI Std Velocity and you can find great deals on it.
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Posted: 5/13/2018 9:42:54 PM EDT
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I used up a brick of this Saturday morning.
Yeah, yeah, yeah; I have to physically cycle the pistol after each shot.  You can't have everything. The groups were fantastic and I enjoyed how quiet they were.  I have Six (6) unopened bricks left and will buy at least a Full Case of it later this year.
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Posted: 5/13/2018 10:45:17 PM EDT
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This. I think it is the same brass and load as CCI Suppressor, but it is copper plated and not HP. Really good ammo. I was a big fan of CCI SV until I found it. Much less mess than the wax coated lead projectiles and consistent/accurate.
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Posted: 5/14/2018 11:01:55 PM EDT
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I used up a brick of this Saturday morning. Yeah, yeah, yeah; I have to physically cycle the pistol after each shot. You can't have everything. The groups were fantastic and I enjoyed how quiet they were. I have Six (6) unopened bricks left and will buy at least a Full Case of it later this year.
https://www.firearmsoutletcanada.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/650x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/C/C/CCI-Quiet---.22LR_-40gr._-LRN_-Brick-of-500.jpg |
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Posted: 5/15/2018 5:42:44 PM EDT
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After all my bulk pack garbage is gone I'm sticking with CCI SV from here on out
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Posted: 5/15/2018 7:12:35 PM EDT
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After all my bulk pack garbage is gone I'm sticking with CCI SV from here on out |
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Posted: 5/15/2018 8:19:11 PM EDT
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I used up a brick of this Saturday morning. Yeah, yeah, yeah; I have to physically cycle the pistol after each shot. You can't have everything. The groups were fantastic and I enjoyed how quiet they were. I have Six (6) unopened bricks left and will buy at least a Full Case of it later this year.
https://www.firearmsoutletcanada.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/650x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/C/C/CCI-Quiet---.22LR_-40gr._-LRN_-Brick-of-500.jpg |
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Posted: 5/15/2018 8:27:49 PM EDT
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I plan to keep using bulk packs for pistols, and save the SV for the rifles. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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After all my bulk pack garbage is gone I'm sticking with CCI SV from here on out |
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Posted: 5/15/2018 8:37:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @GiggleSmith where did you get this in Bulk? I got a few 50 round packs with a savage I bought used, and it's so stupid quiet it's fantastic. I got decent results in close, but I think I was skipping them into the target at 100 yards. still really nice to teach new shooters and I do enjoy the challenge with them. An ammunition vendor had some so I nearly bought nearly case of them. As it was I bought 8 bricks worth. (I didn't quite have enough money for a full case... )
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Posted: 5/15/2018 8:57:31 PM EDT
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I plan to keep using bulk packs for pistols, and save the SV for the rifles. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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After all my bulk pack garbage is gone I'm sticking with CCI SV from here on out |
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Posted: 5/16/2018 12:12:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @GiggleSmith where did you get this in Bulk? I got a few 50 round packs with a savage I bought used, and it's so stupid quiet it's fantastic. I got decent results in close, but I think I was skipping them into the target at 100 yards. still really nice to teach new shooters and I do enjoy the challenge with them. |
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Posted: 5/16/2018 11:33:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would too but my m&p22 full-size and mosquito both choke on automatch, federal blue and red, golden bullets, m22, and I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting. CCI SV just plain works. My .22LR AR w/ CMMG bolt choked on Aguila SV, but runs Federal red box and Rem. Thunderbolts just fine. |
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Posted: 5/16/2018 3:34:10 PM EDT
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That's odd... I would have presumed they would like the HV more than the SV. My .22LR AR w/ CMMG bolt choked on Aguila SV, but runs Federal red box and Rem. Thunderbolts just fine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I would too but my m&p22 full-size and mosquito both choke on automatch, federal blue and red, golden bullets, m22, and I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting. CCI SV just plain works. My .22LR AR w/ CMMG bolt choked on Aguila SV, but runs Federal red box and Rem. Thunderbolts just fine. 
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Posted: 5/18/2018 7:47:48 AM EDT
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https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1301310307/cci-quik-shok-ammunition-22-long-rifle-subsonic-40-grain-plated-lead-hollow-point currently on sale. Accurate, quiet and effective Today I checked, and the price was nolonger on sale. ARF buyers strike again. I run a thermal sight equipped, suppressed, aftermarket parts built 10/22 for night vermin control. Saw a large mouse at 20yds digging in my sunflower seed droppings under the bird feeder. First shot went high, mouse froze, 2nd shot fucked that mouse up. 
Can't wait for Rocky Racoon to show up one night. |
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Posted: 5/18/2018 8:03:07 AM EDT
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My go to round is the CCI subsonic, and the Gemtech subsonic. I bought a full case of each.
My favorites as well - Gemtech Outback II-T on an S&W M&P-15/22 |
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Posted: 5/18/2018 9:15:34 AM EDT
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For personal use, I use CCI subsonic HPs in my 10/22 and 8334. I'll use the normal CCI Subsonics if I'm just checking zero. The 10/22 especially is mostly for shooting non-paper targets.
My 22/45 gets a diet of CCI standard velocity, and some CCI Sub HPs . I do shoot a bunch of garbage 22 as well... sometimes if a place has a killer sales on junk 22 ammo, I buy it just to shoot at whatever when I'm board. (Sit outside and shoot at steel from 100 yards or shoot beer cans... things like that.) |
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