Anyone have a .410 shockwave? Opinions?

I have one. I like running a can all across the quarry. It is light and kicks light.
And fits great in a clarinet case.

I have lots of shotguns.
12's 20's 16 28's .410's.
A WP 870 is my only NFA.
3 model 42's are my most collectible.

So why the .410 Shockwave ?
It's fun fun fun.

And if they have to stop production ?
The .410 will be really rare.

I got it for $330 OTD

Why would they have to stop production?

wouldn't a small .410  one handed option be covered by the judge? with the option to use .45 LC?

Dems win?

You could go with this


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~10" barrel ~16" OAL

I have this whole crazy 'ting for .410 shotshell going on so I also would like a .410 Shockwave.

Like Bodybagger, I am waiting for a real deal.

In the meantime, I can load my 12ga. shockwave with super light 3/4oz. birdshot loads for similar effect.

I have one and absolutely love it. I like my 410 shotguns, I have five of them. I also reload all my hunting and self defense ammo. My 3" 00 buck loads (5 pellets) does great out of both my 500 with 24" barrel and my Shockwave. Also everyone in my household can shoot the 410 Shockwave comfortably.

OK, I finally understand your question.

I own a Governor and it is a great gun that fills a niche purpose for me (applying snake medicine). However, .410 ballistics from the 2" barrel are just awful;

1) You only achieve a little more than HALF the published muzzle velocity (compared to a barrel of ~12" or greater) from that tiny barrel. This reduces the muzzle ENERGY exponentially. Still good enough for birdshot -v- Cottonmouth at maybe out to 6 feet but not much further (that has some advantages as well).

2) The rifled barrel, required by ATF to keep it out of NFA territory causes the shot to spread extremely fast and leaves big (snake head sized) holes in the pattern after just a few feet (again, not much more than 6 feet of predictable pattern).

I carry my Governor as a canoe gun. I load the first four chambers with #9 shot (may be switching to #6 after some more testing) and the last four two with .45 Colt and also some, .45acp loaded into moonclips in my vest pocket for fast reloads.

The .410 Shockwave with a 14" barrel will deliver the full potential of that admittedly diminutive shotshell but in a much smaller package than a full-sized shotgun. The real advantage being that, in .410, that pistol-gripped "firearm" will be very easy to control. Personally, I have no real complaint about the 12ga Shockwave, even with 3" Magnum Turkey Loads but I would still like me a .410 Shockwave just for shits & giggles.

Edited because I can't count

I've got a 20ga and a 12ga TAC-14.  If Remington ever brings out a 410 model, I'll definitely pick one up.

Damn... how did I miss an 8-shot Governor?

Handled a couple different LGS's .410 Shockwaves and liked it.  It'd be a great way to intro scatter guns to ladies in my family.  Let em get comfortable and manhandle it, then move up to 12ga after they have a decent technique with the .410.

If they didn't love it and keep it as their own dedicated HD weapon, its OK. I'd love choot'n it myself.  If someone would make a brace and "+1" accessories for it, this .410 would likely be more popular (to include any future .410 tac14's).

Picked up a .410 model 500 for the small property to use on pests and gardendwellers and I love it. Will be buying a .410 shockwave model at some point just for fun.

Why a plus-1 extension ??? Doesn't the tube already come even with the barrel?

They do NOT shoot high!  The person shooting these shotguns was never taught how to shoot it properly.

Your wrong

except the judge uses rifled barrels which cause you shot pattern to look like donuts even at close range. I was shooting a rabbit with it at about 10yds aiming dead center and only about 5 pellets from a #6 shot load hit it. It immobilized it, but I had to shoot it again at point blank range for a kill, not ethical IMO. The shockwave is a smooth bore which makes it a far better hunting gun.

Well, I purchased one this weekend

I already own a 12ga Mossberg Shockwave and a 12ga Remington TAC-14. I like the concept. I also have this whole 'ting for .410 shotguns so the .410 Shockwave was something I had been wanting to try.

I purchased it last Sunday morning and by Sunday afternoon, I was shooting it. I will dispense with the specs of the gun itself since most anybody here is familiar with the Mossberg 500/590, the .410 shotshell and the Raptor/Shockwave Grip.

Opinions:

This little .410 firearm is a hoot!!!

It is built on Mossberg's .410 M500 receiver (duh) so it is much smaller in dimensions and weight. At 4.24 lbs., it weighs a full pound less than it's 12ga big brother (about 1.25 pounds less when fully loaded).

The .410 shotshell gives this gun virtually no recoil. I can easily shoot this gun from the hip, one-handed or from an "extended push/pull" hold to use the bead sight and even rest the grip on my cheek (although, I had to cant the gun slightly to pick-up the bead). There really is no "wrong" way to hold this gun as long as you are aware of where the muzzle is pointing. On that note, while I have learned to index the muzzle on my 12 gauge Shockwave to consistently hit targets from the hip, I found the .410 was much harder to intuitively aim. It is so lightweight and so small in the hand that very subtle changes in hold or stance sent my shot pattern in different directions. I am sure with more practice, I could become proficient hip shooting (as I am with the 12ga version) but honestly, this thing is easy enough to cheek-weld, that I probably wont bother.

At 5, 15 and 25 yards, it patterns about how you would expect from a .410 shell out of a cylinder barrel. No surprises there. The 14" barrel is enough length for the load to reach it's potential (as limited as the .410 is with it's payload weight).

I did not have the opportunity to try shooting Skeet with it (I doubt any club or public range would allow it) but I am sure it would be a challenge.

Practical uses?

Well, I think in any way that you have a practical use for any .410 chambered firearm, this gun will work. I wouldn't hand it to a new shooter but if you are familiar with shotgunning you can squeeze the potential out of this thing. It would be very nice to keep around the house/barn as a snake or rat gun. A properly selected .410 load is very effective in that role while minimizing the risk of errant shots, over-penetration or ricochets and the associated risk of collateral damage compared to a rifle or handgun, even in .22LR.

I like mine

Thanks for the review, got any photos of the lil’ thing?

Just to note that the Raptor 410 grip is available separately from the manufacturer. I bought one for fun and slapped it on my son’s 410 youth 500.  Make sure you get the 410 unit as the others won’t fit. It’s a hoot, very handy and light weight. It’s easy to shoot and make hits.

ETA

Product Link
Raptor Grip 410 $19.95 on sale now

I would like to see this made as a Howdah pistol in 500 S&W or Linebaugh. Maybe 50-110 to keep pressures down.

I would like to see this made as a Howdah pistol in 500 S&W or Linebaugh. Maybe 50-110 to keep pressures down. Even a rifled 12 ga would be neat if legal