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Posted: 1/19/2021 10:52:24 PM EDT
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Most of the non game animals here are small dog size and smaller.
With PVS-14 without a magnifier, and IR laser, I only take shots in the wide open spaces out to maybe 35 yards on them. The limits from laser bloom and 1X magnification unless I filter it heavily, make clean shots difficult on these small critters. In fact, when I am after one for sound reason, I take a bright white light, sit in a hide, and light them up after I see them with NV or thermal. There's no reason to hide and white simply works better. There's no excuse for mistakes. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 10:59:47 PM EDT
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This is the best anecdotal evidence of an answer that I've seen.
 Night Vision Hog Hunting - March |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 10:59:47 PM EDT
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I have a thing with hogs.
Everything else, I'll go for a kill/decent shot on it. 4 legged stuff gets a kill shot, if I managed to hit something flying, it gets taken care of as needed when it hits the ground. Hogs on the other hand, they have destroyed enough land I don't feel bad about trying shots on them. I've found enough dead hogs, I"m really starting to think my 100 yard revolver skills are better than I think they are. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 11:15:36 PM EDT
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Hogs are just doing their thing. Personally, it does not justify gut shooting them and subjecting them to that kind of pain for the last few hours of their life. But that’s just me. Y’all do you.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 11:22:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hogs are just doing their thing. Personally, it does not justify gut shooting them and subjecting them to that kind of pain for the last few hours of their life. But that’s just me. Y’all do you. Honestly, most of the hogs I've shot I'll find dead a lot closer than I planed on. I've tried to gut shoot one before, and I found it 15 yards from where I shot it. But that's what happens when your dad beats your ass for gun safety and marksmanship. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 2:04:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Honestly, most of the hogs I've shot I'll find dead a lot closer than I planed on. I've tried to gut shoot one before, and I found it 15 yards from where I shot it. But that's what happens when your dad beats your ass for gun safety and marksmanship. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hogs are just doing their thing. Personally, it does not justify gut shooting them and subjecting them to that kind of pain for the last few hours of their life. But that’s just me. Y’all do you. Honestly, most of the hogs I've shot I'll find dead a lot closer than I planed on. I've tried to gut shoot one before, and I found it 15 yards from where I shot it. But that's what happens when your dad beats your ass for gun safety and marksmanship. I see this wasn't GD. So I'll go ahead and admit my post had nothing to do with NV, should've just shut the fuck up and scrolled on. My bad. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 9:48:20 AM EDT
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I keep shooting for as far as I can see them. The issue isn't the distance at which id shoot, its the distance at which I can make absolutely 100% sure its a hog.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 9:52:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hogs are just doing their thing. Personally, it does not justify gut shooting them and subjecting them to that kind of pain for the last few hours of their life. But that’s just me. Y’all do you. Yeah I get it. I don't like animals to suffer either. But it's about extermination, not sportsmanship. I would never in a million years intentionally make an animal suffer more than it has to and I try to put them out of their misery as quickly as possible but a dead hog is a dead hog.  December 1, 2020 |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 2:49:17 PM EDT
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something about knowing your target and whats behind it.......
if i cant ID what in the right fuck enables me to break the shot off lol |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:24:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I keep shooting for as far as I can see them. The issue isn't the distance at which id shoot, its the distance at which I can make absolutely 100% sure its a hog. Which is what distance for those of us with zero experience? |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 8:42:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which is what distance for those of us with zero experience? I'm in the dead hog is a dead hog camp but as others have said I wouldn't take wild shots against other animals either, and I wouldn't risk a 300 yard shot if I wasn't 100% sure it was a hog. Could be something else, especially if it's a solitary pig and it's not worth the risk for me. My farthest thermal kill against a hog turned out to be 258 yards, but I was 100% sure it was a boar. With laser my longest has been around 125/150ish because of good terrain, solid ID and lack of other animals in the engagement area A reasonable distance for me I'd generalize as 200 yards, but again, it depends on the terrain and conditions. Tall grass or wheat? No way. Bald ass open with a clear view and no other animals? Maybe yes |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 9:49:24 PM EDT
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Thermal greatly increases the range. I was asking more about with a PVS14 and maybe an illuminator. I am going to go this weekend and use the TNVC Torch Pro illuminator to see the difference with the same steel target. Need to invest a little time as well with my icotech and see if I can get something to come in. Thermal is on my short list for next free cash flow.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 9:54:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah I get it. I don't like animals to suffer either. But it's about extermination, not sportsmanship. I would never in a million years intentionally make an animal suffer more than it has to and I try to put them out of their misery as quickly as possible but a dead hog is a dead hog.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx2bnUgJCuUQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hogs are just doing their thing. Personally, it does not justify gut shooting them and subjecting them to that kind of pain for the last few hours of their life. But that’s just me. Y’all do you. Yeah I get it. I don't like animals to suffer either. But it's about extermination, not sportsmanship. I would never in a million years intentionally make an animal suffer more than it has to and I try to put them out of their misery as quickly as possible but a dead hog is a dead hog. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx2bnUgJCuUGreat post, thank you and cannot agree more. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 10:46:31 PM EDT
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Me? Probably 150 yds with 300AAC. 175-200 with 5.56.
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Posted: 1/21/2021 1:55:53 AM EDT
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Are humans considered non game? Asking for a friend.
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Posted: 1/21/2021 2:24:30 AM EDT
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What ever the MPBR is for the cartridge and the size of the animal. I don't want to do much holdover with a laser.
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Posted: 1/21/2021 10:18:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What ever the MPBR is for the cartridge and the size of the animal. I don't want to do much holdover with a laser. This |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 1:51:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are humans considered non game? Asking for a friend. 
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Posted: 1/21/2021 4:52:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which is what distance for those of us with zero experience? ID or shoot? ID wise I can usually PID (enough to start shooting) at maybe 300 yards for Sounders and 150ish for singles with NV. With thermal double that. Shooting wise, once I start, I keep shooting until they make it to the trees, I can’t see them any more, or they are all dead. Some fields can stretch 1k yds pretty easy. It helps when you use a long range shotgun and you have dry plowed fields so you can see bullet strikes and walk the rounds in 
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Posted: 1/21/2021 5:09:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ID or shoot? ID wise I can usually PID (enough to start shooting) at maybe 300 yards for Sounders and 150ish for singles with NV. With thermal double that. Shooting wise, once I start, I keep shooting until they make it to the trees, I can’t see them any more, or they are all dead. Some fields can stretch 1k yds pretty easy. It helps when you use a long range shotgun and you have dry plowed fields so you can see bullet strikes and walk the rounds in https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/62932/EF2F3D42-3B73-4617-8723-7CBA75BB8A06-1790033.jpg  I need somebody to build my RPD kit soooo bad! lol |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 5:26:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/21/2021 6:27:50 PM EDT
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If the non-game is shooting at you, at any distance, I say engage.
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Posted: 1/21/2021 6:30:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are humans considered non game? Asking for a friend. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 7:05:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I need somebody to build my RPD kit soooo bad! lol Yes you do https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/488159/20200918_081836_jpg-1790083.JPG Why don’t I pay one of you bastards |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 7:35:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why don’t I pay one of you bastards There’s a decent amount of machining and lathe work that needs to happen to the bolt carrier, lower, barrel, and bolt flaps to get a semi build together. The full auto ones and semi to full conversions are pretty easy. The other way around is more involved. If it were me I’d call two river arms out of OKC if project guns doesn’t work on them any more. DSA has semi receivers right now. You might want to grab one if you are doing a semi build. They only do a run once a year it seems like. Will save you a decent amount of time machining and welding. Project guns has a pretty decent overview of how to put a semi together: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJjCkjZaNKg5xljJPEwbRmnVqpv3J0za3 |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 1:22:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: DSA has semi receivers right now. You might want to grab one if you are doing a semi build. They only do a run once a year it seems like. Will save you a decent amount of time machining and welding. Project guns has a pretty decent overview of how to put a semi together: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJjCkjZaNKg5xljJPEwbRmnVqpv3J0za3 Link? They show OOS and I’ve been watching them for months |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 12:53:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are humans considered non game? Asking for a friend. Only if you have don’t have the proper tags. Lol |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 2:50:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's a decent amount of machining and lathe work that needs to happen to the bolt carrier, lower, barrel, and bolt flaps to get a semi build together. The full auto ones and semi to full conversions are pretty easy. The other way around is more involved. If it were me I'd call two river arms out of OKC if project guns doesn't work on them any more. DSA has semi receivers right now. You might want to grab one if you are doing a semi build. They only do a run once a year it seems like. Will save you a decent amount of time machining and welding. Project guns has a pretty decent overview of how to put a semi together: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJjCkjZaNKg5xljJPEwbRmnVqpv3J0za3 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why don't I pay one of you bastards There's a decent amount of machining and lathe work that needs to happen to the bolt carrier, lower, barrel, and bolt flaps to get a semi build together. The full auto ones and semi to full conversions are pretty easy. The other way around is more involved. If it were me I'd call two river arms out of OKC if project guns doesn't work on them any more. DSA has semi receivers right now. You might want to grab one if you are doing a semi build. They only do a run once a year it seems like. Will save you a decent amount of time machining and welding. Project guns has a pretty decent overview of how to put a semi together: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJjCkjZaNKg5xljJPEwbRmnVqpv3J0za3 |
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