Really wanting to jump into the H&K club. I'm on a few lists for a SP5 (not willing to pay the current extortion prices). It will be SBRed. Which got me to thinking...

So if I did get a SP5, I would then have to get an A3 stock, 922r parts, and a suppressor.

So that puts me damned near into MP5SD clone territory. Searching around all I can find are Omega (always OOS), Dakota, and TPM. Does anyone have experience with one or more of these companies?

I'm leaning towards the TPM P5SD A3. I'm not worried about a dedicated can as most of mine live on their host full time anyways.

TIA

My buddy owns an omega with a tpm can.

I asked Him about his, and I mentioned I was looking at a Dakota tactical. He said if he could do it over again he’d get a tpm.

I know the DT guns are usually in stock Lately.
Just depends how patient you are and what your looking for. The DT shines in my book bc of the B&t barrel. I don’t know if many builders using those.

Lots of guys seem to be happy with their TPM SDs. There was a long running thread in the silencer subforum covering the SD.

More than one way to scratch that SD itch..

Upper one has an MP5k 3 lug barrel and trident (or other similar 3 lug can), I shoot subsonic through it.

Lower one is an SW SD with post sample can (you can get a good transferrable can), I shoot standard 9mm through it.

Blowback on the SW ported barrel/real SD is way worse than the trident gun.

Contact RDTS......you pay a decent penny, but the end product is better than a factory SD.  RDTS MP5SD

18Z50...MP5SD toting cat from before it was trendy to go suppressed!

If you are just getting into it. Get the sp5 and a can.

While a SF is fun I dont like the velocity penalty when i can be just as quiet with the new cans.

Especially one like this.

Patiently waiting for it to be released from NFA prison.  

I purchased an omega receiver and barrel then a TMP can. I already had stocks a trigger packs so that was the least expensive route.

It’s functioned 100% but as with many clones about 50% of mags lock up.

I would buy another one without hesitation.  That said if you don’t already have an SP5 I would do that 1st.

To my knowledge there is no such thing as a Post Sample can. The Gun Control Act of '68 limited the importation of NFA items into the U.S. And cans imported after the GCA of '68 are Pre May Dealer Samples. The Post May Dealer Samples are machineguns as the Hues Amendment only effects machinegun registration.

The fake SD (SD with a K-PDW barrel instead of the standard SD barrel) is much lower maintenance. HK recommends cleaning every 300 rounds of use for a standard SD. The biggest issue is the mounting threads at the base of the SD barrel.

About 10 years ago a member with an SD, didn't understand the cleaning regiment of the SD. There was way too much carbon built up on the mounting threads for the can at the base of the barrel. The threads of the base mount could not cut through the carbon in the threads of the barrel. Since the barrel mount threads and the end cap mounting threads to the registered tube were both right hand thread, the tube unscrewed off the base mounting end cap. That left the base mounting end cap stuck on the barrel inside the SD cage up against the trunnion. The owner was talking about sending the host gun in to a Smith and having him press out the barrel so the Smith could work at removing the SD can thread mounted  base plate. Make sure to put high temperature grease on the mounting threads of the SD barrel. Even if the SD can could be unthreaded, if the is too much hardened carbon in the barrel threads, the threads can be gauled by the carbon. Once cleaned the gauled threads would be sloppy and loosened easily. A loose suppressor is not a good thing.

I love the SD. I am fortunate enough to own five. My first was a Coharie Arms SD with an all stainless steel base, baffles and registered tube with a carbon steel muzzle cap. I had Rim Country  "upgrade" the baffles to anodized aluminum. That took over 1.5 lbs of the weight of the can. Sometime I like to turn the CA SD into a fake SD with a K-PDW barrel. I  already have the barrel. I would  just need to remove the SD barrel, press in the K-PDW barrel and pin it. Of course I would also need to change the locking peice. I have piles of such projects. Maybe when I retire in a couple of years. Good luck with the SD project. A fake SD could use the same can on both guns.

Scott

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RDTS gets my vote

I want need an SD.

My wallet (and recent NVG obsession) disagrees.

Personally, I don’t think you can go wrong with either Dakota Tactical or TPM for an SD clone. If you decide to go all in, I’d go with TSC hands down. Mike did mine and I love it. Just FYl, a cheaper SD alternative is B&T’s APC9SD, does it have the allure or iconic profile? No, but it is an SD and also a blast to shoot.

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Interesting, wonder how that compares to dB reduction from something like a wolfman or CGS mod 9

Thanks for all the replies.

My first post may have been a little confusing. I am very familiar with the MP5 series and had factory training way back when I was just a smartass SP4. I was issued and carried an MP5A3 or an MP5SDA3 for a while in FRG doing what is now called PSD. Back then we just called ourselves drivers and escorts, basic VIP protection type stuff for an Army GO. Germany in the '80s was not the same as Germany in the '90s.

After calling around and talking to shops, I've decided to go with TPM. Placing the order today.

Now the wait begins.

Looks similar in dimensions to the B&T TP9 suppressor. I’d be interested in a range report. I love running the TP9 with subsonics on my MP5

Nice choice

Every time I have dealt with them they have been a pleasure to deal with

They answered every question I had and were genuinely excited and proud of their product. We talked for about an hour about MP5s, how their company started, their R&D, and just guns in general.

I had to cut Matt off so I could place my order.

When I bought my can from them I guess they were running a special somewhere on the interwebs

I was unaware of it. They then proceeded to give me the discounted rate.

Another instance I boogered up my end cap. New one to my door in a few days

They seem like a good bunch of honest guys.

The pics I have seen of their builds look great. You will certainly be pleased.

Definitely post pics

Yeah, they gave me some kind of "discount" too because it was less than the advertised price online.

They did say that there is a 5-6 week build time right now, then Form 3d to my dealer.

When I go in to do the paperwork I will definitely get some pics.

So, since I've got nothing but time until I get my TPM P5SD3, I've been looking for MP5 stuff to buy.

I've been eyeballin' a Franklin BFSIII but the cheapest I found was in the $650 range. It looks like everyone is holding hard to the MSRP.

Well this morning I get an email from DVOR and lookie lookie, they have the BFSIII on sale for $539. BFSIII

Guess what I just ordered?