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Posted: 7/20/2023 10:41:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SilasB]
If you've always wanted one, don't care about budget, inquire with your favorite Sig retailer about getting one ordered. The SKU is UAMCXA-SURG, ship date is 'December 2023'. You get the upper, the M4 adapter parts, two handguards (SD and low-profile), a non-pinned SLX556 w/ the titanium cage. They're only going to make as many as they get orders for.  Price is....steep. They're going to go for a minimum of 2.4X what they were first offered for back in 2016 (if I recall the year correctly) but never came to be.

I can't quite talk myself into it, but I do want that cage.

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VP
Link Posted: 7/20/2023 11:18:27 PM EDT
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Impact Guns taking preorders at $4299…
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 9:16:50 AM EDT
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US SOCOM Extends Suppressed Upper Receiver Group (SURG) Contract for 5 More Years

It's probably because they are making more for socom. Makes sense that they would release some extras to the commercial market.
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 9:32:27 AM EDT
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Rough calculation:

SLX556 - $1,100
11.5" 556 upper w/ M4 adapter - $2,000
Extra handguard - $200 ?
Titanium shroud - ??

SURG dust sprinkled over it -  $500

See, it all makes sense  
Link Posted: 7/23/2023 1:15:10 PM EDT
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Does this mean they will actually ship these in quantity to SOCOM as well?

I will have to mill this one over.
Link Posted: 7/25/2023 7:13:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SilasB:
Rough calculation:

SLX556 - $1,100
11.5" 556 upper w/ M4 adapter - $2,000
Extra handguard - $200 ?
Titanium shroud - ??

SURG dust sprinkled over it -  $500

See, it all makes sense  
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Looks like it includes a color matched telescoping folding stock, so that's $300 MSRP.
Link Posted: 7/25/2023 10:39:57 AM EDT
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I'm kind of a fan of the handguard. Might be interested.
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 2:14:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By call_me_ski:
Does this mean they will actually ship these in quantity to SOCOM as well?

I will have to mill this one over.
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Correct.
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 4:11:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By coregon:


Correct.
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Awesome.  I always thought it was a great idea to adopt a suppressor and rifle in tandem instead of piecemeal.

Link Posted: 7/26/2023 4:19:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: call_me_ski] [#9]
@coregon

Seeing as this system dates back to 2018, how does the included suppressor compare to Sig’s modern offerings?
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 4:43:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: K1LLD33R] [#10]
Having a hard time seeing this as something to have fun with shooting due to cost of hardware, though i guess for some its just cheaper to them than I...

Sig stuff really is all that huh?
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 11:22:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By call_me_ski:
@coregon

Seeing as this system dates back to 2018, how does the included suppressor compare to Sig's modern offerings?
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For this offering, it's a current production can, SLX556 direct thread.
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 11:54:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SilasB:

For this offering, it's a current production can, SLX556 direct thread.
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When you say this offering, are you referring to the .mil guns, the commercial guns or both?

Are you referring to the internals of the suppressor and the outside of the SURG looks more streamlined(the rear portion of the suppressor appears to be even with the rest of the suppressor body) and the titanium cage or is the most current version just a standard SLX556 and not the can shown in all the pictures?
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:23:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By call_me_ski:


When you say this offering, are you referring to the .mil guns, the commercial guns or both?

Are you referring to the internals of the suppressor and the outside of the SURG looks more streamlined(the rear portion of the suppressor appears to be even with the rest of the suppressor body) and the titanium cage or is the most current version just a standard SLX556 and not the can shown in all the pictures?
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"This offering" meaning the one you'd be able to buy.  Image aside, Sig has said that the SLX556 is what will ship.
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 12:23:27 PM EDT
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SLX556 is the can that SURG is getting.  This offering us just piggy-backing off the production of the recent USSOCOM extension.
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 12:55:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By coregon:
SLX556 is the can that SURG is getting.  This offering us just piggy-backing off the production of the recent USSOCOM extension.
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Awesome.  Thank you for answering my questions.
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 5:34:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By coregon:
SLX556 is the can that SURG is getting.  This offering us just piggy-backing off the production of the recent USSOCOM extension.
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@coregon so for clarification, if we get this upper package. We would essentially be getting a contract overrun? or a civilian version of what SOCOM is receiving?
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 5:54:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By LsuJon:
@coregon so for clarification, if we get this upper package. We would essentially be getting a contract overrun? or a civilian version of what SOCOM is receiving?
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Correct.
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 6:06:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By coregon:


Correct.
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to which part? lol
Link Posted: 7/28/2023 10:55:12 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By LsuJon:
to which part? lol
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Contract overrun
Link Posted: 8/6/2023 5:57:50 PM EDT
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Damn, if I only had the money.... I would so buy this.
Link Posted: 8/6/2023 6:05:52 PM EDT
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I’ll bite.  What’s the purpose of the funky cage around the suppressor?  To keep the hot suppressor from burning you?
Link Posted: 8/6/2023 11:13:15 PM EDT
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Secured mine, so here is some ITW pics. Pretty much all of them because there isnt many lol.













Link Posted: 8/7/2023 10:39:45 AM EDT
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Is there a specific reason that two hand guards are being delivered instead of one settled configuration?
Link Posted: 8/7/2023 11:07:26 AM EDT
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are we ordering through impact guns or is there someone else more preferred?
Link Posted: 8/7/2023 11:17:53 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By call_me_ski:
Is there a specific reason that two hand guards are being delivered instead of one settled configuration?
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One that's bulkier but handles heat better for extended use.

One that's thinner/lighter but will get warmer faster, when not expecting higher round count.

Would be my guess, at least.
Link Posted: 8/7/2023 1:15:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By brodband8:
are we ordering through impact guns or is there someone else more preferred?
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I got mine through Bauer Precision
Link Posted: 8/7/2023 1:37:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By LsuJon:
I got mine through Bauer Precision
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I was going to until I googled their BBB and other reviews.  Had me scared lol

@coregon can you recommend who would be an authorized dealer to buy through?
Link Posted: 8/7/2023 7:22:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By brodband8:


I was going to until I googled their BBB and other reviews.  Had me scared lol

@coregon can you recommend who would be an authorized dealer to buy through?
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Originally Posted By LsuJon:
I got mine through Bauer Precision


I was going to until I googled their BBB and other reviews.  Had me scared lol

@coregon can you recommend who would be an authorized dealer to buy through?

Given they currently owe me over $200 in refunds for goods non-delivered I would not recommend doing business with them.
Link Posted: 8/8/2023 12:17:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By brodband8:


I was going to until I googled their BBB and other reviews.  Had me scared lol

@coregon can you recommend who would be an authorized dealer to buy through?
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You can always start with the Commercial Elite dealers listed on our website.
Link Posted: 8/8/2023 1:28:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By coregon:


You can always start with the Commercial Elite dealers listed on our website.
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Looks like Impact guns it is
Link Posted: 8/9/2023 9:04:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By coregon:


You can always start with the Commercial Elite dealers listed on our website.
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@coregon

Will the SURG handguard be available on it's own at some point? Preferably in black?
Link Posted: 8/11/2023 9:26:26 AM EDT
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I just noticed that the skinny SURG handguard looks like a longer version of the RSAR handguard.
Link Posted: 8/14/2023 11:34:57 AM EDT
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Could someone tell me if the $4,100 price is dealers gouging or if its the normal asking price?
Link Posted: 8/14/2023 12:13:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By nizo_mizer:
Could someone tell me if the $4,100 price is dealers gouging or if its the normal asking price?
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Considering they are contract overrun items, this will be it and then you won't be finding them again, unless another contract overrun happens.
Link Posted: 8/14/2023 12:34:45 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/14/2023 11:27:56 PM EDT
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@coregon does the SURG have titanium parts like other military mcxs did?
Link Posted: 8/19/2023 9:33:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By LsuJon:
@coregon does the SURG have titanium parts like other military mcxs did?
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Does anybody know--yes or no on the titanium parts?
Link Posted: 8/23/2023 3:52:03 PM EDT
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This is totally friggin badass - a contract overrun.

I have several suppressed 556 uppers already though, so that $4000 price tag is a hard one to justify...

But damn - that is cool as hell.
Link Posted: 8/25/2023 2:53:17 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/25/2023 2:54:29 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/25/2023 10:16:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By LsuJon:
@coregon does the SURG have titanium parts like other military mcxs did?
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Originally Posted By abud:



Does anybody know--yes or no on the titanium parts?
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I have no proof, but I HIGHLY doubt it.
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 7:38:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JAG2955:

I have no proof, but I HIGHLY doubt it.
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If they are military overrun units like we are being told I would expect them to be exactly the same.
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 8:25:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: SilasB] [#43]
There could be titanium in the heat shroud. It wouldn't really be a useful, difference maker material anywhere else (coming next, the MCX Spear LT TI - for $8k).
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 8:57:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By brodband8:


If they are military overrun units like we are being told I would expect them to be exactly the same.
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Good point. It would be cool if they were. I'm an MCX whore, but not for that price.
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 9:14:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By brodband8:


If they are military overrun units like we are being told I would expect them to be exactly the same.
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I expect these to be exactly the same as what is delivered to SOCOM and I suspect the titanium parts on military MCXs is nothing more than gun shop lore.
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 9:57:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By call_me_ski:


I expect these to be exactly the same as what is delivered to SOCOM and I suspect the titanium parts on military MCXs is nothing more than gun shop lore.
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Originally Posted By brodband8:


If they are military overrun units like we are being told I would expect them to be exactly the same.


I expect these to be exactly the same as what is delivered to SOCOM and I suspect the titanium parts on military MCXs is nothing more than gun shop lore.


The only model mentioned to hsve titanium parts was the Spear-LT, not the Virtus line which the SURG is based on.

Shouldn't be lore either as Coregon mentioned the parts, doubt he'd lie about it just to start a rumor.
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 10:38:13 AM EDT
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$4100 is too much for a upper and a suppressor. I'd pass. You can get a top tier upper and a nightforce ATACR for less money.

Besides, what is the difference between this and a regular MCX? Is the chrome-lined barrel the only difference?
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 5:43:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Zerlak:


The only model mentioned to hsve titanium parts was the Spear-LT, not the Virtus line which the SURG is based on.

Shouldn't be lore either as Coregon mentioned the parts, doubt he'd lie about it just to start a rumor.
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The LVAW had titanium parts iirc
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 6:25:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SilasB:
There could be titanium in the heat shroud. It wouldn't really be a useful, difference maker material anywhere else (coming next, the MCX Spear LT TI - for $8k).
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There is in the heat shield at least confirmed by the brochure. However, I'm mainly asking about the steel inserts that we see on civilian mcx receivers. Which I  believed the LVAWs had titanium ones (could be wrong) so I was wondering if the SURGs the mil gets have them and if so do these also have them?
Link Posted: 8/31/2023 5:42:49 PM EDT
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If you price the whole thing out then the price makes sense.  It's a very rare set up obviously.  If you are an MCX "whore" as someone said then you should be use to these prices.  Price of fame.
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