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Lage Mac 11/9 Glock Mag Upper (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 12/6/2024 9:01:04 PM EDT
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Lage has Glock mag uppers on display and on the website. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By SGT-Fish: Need an scorpion/ak-v mag version. It'd look cooler and the mags and drums are super common, cheap and reliable. Multiple manufactures of good working mags include PSA, CZ, magpul, and ETS Originally Posted By SGT-Fish: Need an scorpion/ak-v mag version. It'd look cooler and the mags and drums are super common, cheap and reliable. Multiple manufactures of good working mags include PSA, CZ, magpul, and ETS Go to the link I posted.. VERSA-11 Slow fire upper receiver for use with the M-11/9 SMG. It utilizes a Magazine Module to allow use of many different magazines. The Suomi Drum Magazine Module can use Suomi M31 72 round drum, 50 round coffin 36 round double feed stick, Shockwave ZMAG-S and DC-31 magazines. Other Magazine Modules allows use of Glock G17 magazines, CZ EVO Scorpion or other magazines. |
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Originally Posted By Chas8008: that is cool, I hope it works out.. How much are 72 rd drums nows? Far too much. Sten mags are easy to convert fo single feed suomi applications. I make batches of tabs to braze on from time to time. Sten mags are the cheap option. Lage has their DC mags. The shockwave mags were/are fantastic but NLA. |
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Originally Posted By Deerhurst: Far too much. Sten mags are easy to convert fo single feed suomi applications. I make batches of tabs to braze on from time to time. Sten mags are the cheap option. Lage has their DC mags. The shockwave mags were/are fantastic but NLA. Originally Posted By Deerhurst: Originally Posted By Chas8008: that is cool, I hope it works out.. How much are 72 rd drums nows? Far too much. Sten mags are easy to convert fo single feed suomi applications. I make batches of tabs to braze on from time to time. Sten mags are the cheap option. Lage has their DC mags. The shockwave mags were/are fantastic but NLA. Shockwave Zmags are still available. |
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Originally Posted By Deerhurst: It's a neat upper but I won't be buying. Already have plenty of mags for my mx31 and not really interested in spending another $1100 to just use another mag. Yeah I have 2 MACS with 3 Lage uppers and plenty of mags and drums. 
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Originally Posted By Bklyn_Irish: Shockwave Zmags are still available. Originally Posted By Bklyn_Irish: Originally Posted By Deerhurst: Originally Posted By Chas8008: that is cool, I hope it works out.. How much are 72 rd drums nows? Far too much. Sten mags are easy to convert fo single feed suomi applications. I make batches of tabs to braze on from time to time. Sten mags are the cheap option. Lage has their DC mags. The shockwave mags were/are fantastic but NLA. Shockwave Zmags are still available. I was talking about suomi compatible mags. Zmags are used in a stock M11/9 and will not work in any solution that uses suomi mags. SMags are NLA. They were fantastic but they were not worth the reinvestment by shockwave due to how slow they were bought. |
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Originally Posted By akethan: Yeah I have 2 MACS with 3 Lage uppers and plenty of mags and drums. I want to get the Lage slow fire 45ACP upper for my M10. Already have a Max31 and a Max15. Lots of mags for all 3 configurations. I'm literally swimming in GG mags. |
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Originally Posted By akethan: You get better treatment then us M10 guys. Originally Posted By akethan: Originally Posted By PAESAN: M11a1 gets no love per usual. You get better treatment then us M10 guys. Lage will have the VERSA-10 and VERSA-12 too. As posted on Uzitalk. The VERSA-11 is for M-11/9, VERSA-12 is for M-11A1 and VERSA-10 is for for M-10/9 and M-10/4. There are waiting lists starting today for the VERSA-10, VERSA-11 and VERSA-12. The first batch of VERSA-11 are just waiting for one part to be anodized. They will be ready for sale in 1-2 weeks. All programming, fixtures and tooling are complete and raw material is in stock. Production of the first VERSA-10 and VERSA-12 will be finished in 1-3 months. We received BATFE “approval” for all of the uppers in November of ‘23. |
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Originally Posted By LonghornAR: Lage will have the VERSA-10 and VERSA-12 too. As posted on Uzitalk. Originally Posted By LonghornAR: Originally Posted By akethan: Originally Posted By PAESAN: M11a1 gets no love per usual. You get better treatment then us M10 guys. Lage will have the VERSA-10 and VERSA-12 too. As posted on Uzitalk. The VERSA-11 is for M-11/9, VERSA-12 is for M-11A1 and VERSA-10 is for for M-10/9 and M-10/4. There are waiting lists starting today for the VERSA-10, VERSA-11 and VERSA-12. The first batch of VERSA-11 are just waiting for one part to be anodized. They will be ready for sale in 1-2 weeks. All programming, fixtures and tooling are complete and raw material is in stock. Production of the first VERSA-10 and VERSA-12 will be finished in 1-3 months. We received BATFE “approval” for all of the uppers in November of ‘23. Right on. I wonder if they can run CFWs… |
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Originally Posted By akethan: You get better treatment then us M10 guys. Originally Posted By akethan: Originally Posted By PAESAN: M11a1 gets no love per usual. You get better treatment then us M10 guys. They’re doing a M11a1 upper for it. They even have a test video up. |
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Originally Posted By Skullsoldier: They’re doing a M11a1 upper for it. They even have a test video up. Originally Posted By Skullsoldier: Originally Posted By akethan: Originally Posted By PAESAN: M11a1 gets no love per usual. You get better treatment then us M10 guys. They’re doing a M11a1 upper for it. They even have a test video up. Yep, thanks. I missed that initially. Richard does it again 
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Originally Posted By Deerhurst: I was talking about suomi compatible mags. Zmags are used in a stock M11/9 and will not work in any solution that uses suomi mags. SMags are NLA. They were fantastic but they were not worth the reinvestment by shockwave due to how slow they were bought. Originally Posted By Deerhurst: Originally Posted By Bklyn_Irish: Originally Posted By Deerhurst: Originally Posted By Chas8008: that is cool, I hope it works out.. How much are 72 rd drums nows? Far too much. Sten mags are easy to convert fo single feed suomi applications. I make batches of tabs to braze on from time to time. Sten mags are the cheap option. Lage has their DC mags. The shockwave mags were/are fantastic but NLA. Shockwave Zmags are still available. I was talking about suomi compatible mags. Zmags are used in a stock M11/9 and will not work in any solution that uses suomi mags. SMags are NLA. They were fantastic but they were not worth the reinvestment by shockwave due to how slow they were bought. Check! |
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Originally Posted By coal-cracker: I guess the M11/9 that I paid $975 for back in 2001, just bumped up a little more in value. Thank you Mr Lage! Was that one that Craig Wheatley sold? |
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Originally Posted By scottMO: Was that one that Craig Wheatley sold? Originally Posted By scottMO: Originally Posted By coal-cracker: I guess the M11/9 that I paid $975 for back in 2001, just bumped up a little more in value. Thank you Mr Lage! Was that one that Craig Wheatley sold? Nope. Mine was bought from a dealer in Allentown, PA. He had 7 or 8 of them for sale at the time. I wish I had bought several.
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Thread in Uzi Talk Lage posted there will be a .45 ACP version for the M10 with Glock pattern or Grease Gun mag adapters. Are there larger capacity Glock 21 mags that actually work? M3 mags are the obvious choice for people with a bunch of them, but they are heavy and bulky. I put myself on the list of a 12 upper with Glock and Scorpion adapters for the M11A1. Still trying to decide on the 45 upper for the 10/9. I already have a BRP-Stemple with the .45 conversion, but I do like options. |
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Originally Posted By Landric: Thread in Uzi Talk Lage posted there will be a .45 ACP version for the M10 with Glock pattern or Grease Gun mag adapters. Are there larger capacity Glock 21 mags that actually work? M3 mags are the obvious choice for people with a bunch of them, but they are heavy and bulky. I put myself on the list of a 12 upper with Glock and Scorpion adapters for the M11A1. Still trying to decide on the 45 upper for the 10/9. I already have a BRP-Stemple with the .45 conversion, but I do like options. I'm not sure I see a use for another upper for GG mags. The M10 already had/has a GG mags variant (I own one) and by putting the mag in front of the gun all you do is add weight and length. Only possible advantage is lower ROF. It can be difficult to slow a M10/45. I believe the normal Lage 45ACP M10 upper does slightly lower ROF. Edit: Lage website advertises 750RPM with the Max10/45 upper. I do need to snag one of those still. |
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Originally Posted By mak0: Are the magwells modular? Meaning can I buy two different magwell modules and swap them or do you have to buy two uppers if you want both Scorpion and Glock mag compatibility? They are modular. There’s a video on uzitalk.com That shows shooting the upper, pulling a pin and the mag well slides off and you slide a new magwell on there, and it continues to function and fire with the new mag and magwell. All without removing the complete upper. https://www.uzitalk.com/forums/index.php?threads/swapping-magazine-modules-on-the-versa-11.100799/ |
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Originally Posted By scottMO: They are modular. There’s a video on uzitalk.com That shows shooting the upper, pulling a pin and the mag well slides off and you slide a new magwell on there, and it continues to function and fire with the new mag and magwell. All without removing the complete upper. https://www.uzitalk.com/forums/index.php?threads/swapping-magazine-modules-on-the-versa-11.100799/ It also has to go over the muzzle to believe so a fat muzzle device with require the muzzle device to be removed to swap magwells. Someone of Uzi talk said something about it not fitting over their suppressor mount. |
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Originally Posted By Deerhurst: It also has to go over the muzzle to believe so a fat muzzle device with require the muzzle device to be removed to swap magwells. Someone of Uzi talk said something about it not fitting over their suppressor mount. That specific case is related to the YHM phantom QD. I have that on several rifles and the outer ring that depresses and locks the can is pretty wide compared other mounting solutions like 3 lug or barrel threaded. |
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Originally Posted By LonghornAR: That specific case is related to the YHM phantom QD. I have that on several rifles and the outer ring that depresses and locks the can is pretty wide compared other mounting solutions like 3 lug or barrel threaded. It's pretty similar in size to many QD mounts. I don't trust direct thread on an MG. Just an FYI to folks. I run KeyMo so I'm not sure how it would affect me. |
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I've been beta testing this upper for Lage Mfg for a while now. It really is phenomenal and it has been really cool to see how Lage Mfg have innovated and improved over time. In fact, I bought my first Mac because I saw pictures of the original Max-11 upper. I met Richard at one of the UziTalk shoots years ago. He really is brilliant. I think he has an unmatched blend of being an excellent shooter (won top gun at Knob Creek among other accomplishments), aesthetic designs, ability to put new products into production, and excellent customer service. I remember when the Max-31 was in testing and VegasSMG (RIP my friend) told me how flat it shot and what an improvement it was from the Max-11. I was doubtful at first but after shooting it, I of course upgraded. I was a marked evolution of the Max-11. Subgun match directors changed their rules to limit mag capacity because other guns couldn't keep up with the Max-31! The Max-31 mk2 was lighter and made a noticeable improvement on the mk1. This upper (VERSA-1x) is another HUGE upgrade from the previous uppers. 1) it is crazy light weight; this is the first thing I noticed when I finger fondled it 2) the controls are beautifully ergonomic (I especially love the Glock mag well which surprised me as I've been a bit of a glock mag hater compared to other subgun mags) with beautifully positioned ambi mag releases and the gun points and shoulders perfectly; mag changes really are on another level 3) modular mag wells? Love this 4) the rate of fire is perfect for me; I can easily pull singles 5) the gun shoots FLAT; better than the Max-31 in terms of keeping a burst on target I can't say enough great things about this iteration of the Lage-ified Mac! Full disclosure: I do get early access to these products and beta units, but have no financial relationship with Lage Mfg.   |
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Originally Posted By Deerhurst: It also has to go over the muzzle to believe so a fat muzzle device with require the muzzle device to be removed to swap magwells. Someone of Uzi talk said something about it not fitting over their suppressor mount. There is some limited room to "relieve" some of the polymer on the barrel end of the mag well adapter if needed...not sure if it'd fit over a YHM muzzle device as they are pretty "ass heavy." 
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Originally Posted By Deerhurst: I was talking about suomi compatible mags. Zmags are used in a stock M11/9 and will not work in any solution that uses suomi mags. SMags are NLA. They were fantastic but they were not worth the reinvestment by shockwave due to how slow they were bought. Lage has Z mags available now for the Max31. Stick mags |
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Macmachineguns.com also makes an adapter so that normal Z mags can be used with the max 31. https://macmachineguns.com/product/ps-31-zmag-adapter/ |
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I have some Z-S mags for my MAX-31k upper. They work, but they are hard to load, relatively expensive even when they are available, and not as reliable as actual Suomi mags. I have them because they were the only game in town for stick mags in that upper. Given a choice, I wouldn’t choose the Z-S pattern mags, or the Z mags over any of the other options Lage is offering with the new uppers. Glock and Scorpion mags are cheaper, more available, more reliable, easier to load, and made by multiple manufacturers. Once I have one of these uppers for my M11A1 I will probably sell the Z-S mags. The coffins and drums run perfectly in the 31k upper, and I can switch to the new upper to use stick mags. I don’t see using the Z-S mags again. |
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Originally Posted By Deerhurst: I've never had an s-mag hiccup and don't find them particularly difficult to load. Somewhere on thingiverse I have a CAD model for a speed loader for them. I’ve had multiple occasions where the followers got stuck mid mag and had to be banged until they would release. This was always with good quality brass cased ammo. I have a mag loader for them, but they are still not nearly as easy to load as other designs in my experience. In fairness to them, they work most of the time. They are just the required solution for stick mag use in previous Lage uppers. The actual Suomi stick mag is a way better magazine, and also more available and cheaper. With the new uppers, they are the obvious choice if one also wants to use coffins and/or drums. I appreciate the existence of Z-S mags. I didn’t have the best experience with them, but they also were not Promags or USA magazines. |
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Someone printed an adapter to modify a magLula to work with the Z mags. Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Nothing wrong with keeping your current Lage upper. I have five or six of them that I plan on keeping. While those legacy uppers all work just fine, this new upper is a definite upgrade over the previous models, especially for competition use. I vividly remember Tom Wright (VegasSMG; RIP friend), telling me the Max-31 upper was way better than the original Max-11. I told him I was going to stick with my Max-11 and saw no need to upgrade….until I shot the new (then) Max-31. 😀 |
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Originally Posted By Landric: I’ve had multiple occasions where the followers got stuck mid mag and had to be banged until they would release. This was always with good quality brass cased ammo. I have a mag loader for them, but they are still not nearly as easy to load as other designs in my experience. In fairness to them, they work most of the time. They are just the required solution for stick mag use in previous Lage uppers. The actual Suomi stick mag is a way better magazine, and also more available and cheaper. With the new uppers, they are the obvious choice if one also wants to use coffins and/or drums. I appreciate the existence of Z-S mags. I didn’t have the best experience with them, but they also were not Promags or USA magazines. Do you clean or lubricate your mags? Suomi stick mags are double feed and do no work in a Max31. I'm interested in know how you can directly compare mags that do work in a Max31 with mags that do not and say one works better for the Max31 (the one that does not work). I can't say when the last time I saw suomi stick mags for sale. A quick search shows me WhatACountry is the only source that has them on the first page of my internet search. Everyone else is OOS. At $24 they are cheap but still don't work without a double feed bolt. My SMags are full of sand, dirt, dust, suppressor soot, you name it. Never a hiccup. I really should pull them apart and clean them. |
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