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Posted: 3/31/2021 9:22:13 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/31/2021 9:43:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryFrom what I gathered it only states that the firearm has to have that information. Am I missing something? |
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Posted: 3/31/2021 10:06:28 AM EDT
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My takeaway is that licensed manufacturers and importers are allowed to add info, but that defacing the original maker's mark (serial number) is forbidden without special permission.
Individual owners, it seems, are not allowed to 'move' the original engraving, because doing so violates the prohibition against 'defacing or altering.' Like almost all ATF rules, this one is intentionally vague. If it were me, I wouldn't touch it. The juice ain't worth the squeeze, IMHO. |
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Posted: 3/31/2021 10:49:17 AM EDT
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Yeah I guess that makes sense. I swear they make these vague policies on purpose and the mission of the ATF is to take away our rights.
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Posted: 3/31/2021 11:13:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah I guess that makes sense. I swear they make these vague policies on purpose and the mission of the ATF is to take away our rights. Agreed - on both the federal and state level. The rules for carrying in a bar here in Florida are insane. If food is served in 50% of the establishment (number of seats, square footage? not expressly defined) I can carry legally if I'm sitting at a table, but not if I'm sitting at the bar. I guess they think I'll drink enough to be over the legal limit if I'm at the bar, but not when the Hooters girl is serving happy hour pitchers at our table. The law already states I can't carry if I'm over the legal limit. And if I'm smart, I'm not drinking with a gun on me, no matter where I sit - just in case. |
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Posted: 3/31/2021 9:04:58 PM EDT
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Gunsmiths move the location of the serial number routinely.
You must (!!) first engrave the serial number to the new location, and then (and only then) you can remove the old markings. The ATF comments are opaque. But the technique above has been in use for the past 50 years. And the people who've been f**ked by it are the ones who removed the serial numbers before they applied them to the new location. |
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Posted: 3/31/2021 9:29:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah I guess that makes sense. I swear they make these vague policies on purpose and the mission of the ATF is to take away our rights. You're just now figuring this out? It's all infringement. |
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Posted: 3/31/2021 9:56:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Gunsmiths move the location of the serial number routinely. You must (!!) first engrave the serial number to the new location, and then (and only then) you can remove the old markings. The ATF comments are opaque. But the technique above has been in use for the past 50 years. And the people who've been f**ked by it are the ones who removed the serial numbers before they applied them to the new location. To do so properly and legally, you must seek ATF approval before beginning the process. They must approve the move and the new location. |
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Posted: 4/2/2021 7:27:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To do so properly and legally, you must seek ATF approval before beginning the process. They must approve the move and the new location. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Gunsmiths move the location of the serial number routinely. You must (!!) first engrave the serial number to the new location, and then (and only then) you can remove the old markings. The ATF comments are opaque. But the technique above has been in use for the past 50 years. And the people who've been f**ked by it are the ones who removed the serial numbers before they applied them to the new location. To do so properly and legally, you must seek ATF approval before beginning the process. They must approve the move and the new location. That's what I took away from the ruling. |
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Posted: 4/2/2021 6:08:13 PM EDT
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That ruling by ATF was only regarding imported firearms and NFA firearms being manufactured from existing parts/guns, by LICENSED manufacturers.
It doesn't apply to an individual owner of a firearm. You can move your serial number as long as it's applied before getting rid of the old one. |
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