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Tagging in as I'm looking to get back into NV and leaning the bridged 14/thermal route. Would the RH25 benefit by having a Supergain WP 14? Or standard WP 14. Brightness wise. |
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Originally Posted By kel: My V2 wouldn’t recognize on an iMac, so I tried it on a Windows laptop. Sort of recognized but still shaky. I had to use the phone app to get files out to iPhone then send to computer for editing. They are aware of this at IRay and need to debug. I assume there will be a firmware update fix. Keep reminding IRay that needs to be fixed. Originally Posted By kel: Apropos of nothing, what is the secret to getting the USB connection to work? My computer won't recognize it using the factory cable. Is there some drive that I might be missing? My V2 wouldn’t recognize on an iMac, so I tried it on a Windows laptop. Sort of recognized but still shaky. I had to use the phone app to get files out to iPhone then send to computer for editing. They are aware of this at IRay and need to debug. I assume there will be a firmware update fix. Keep reminding IRay that needs to be fixed. Thank you, I had not fully explored the app to see you could see the device files in addition to the videos taken by the app. Lots of video processing to do now. I think my favorite thermal "thing" is the heat reflections. On a still night the trees behind my pond are perfectly reflected in the water. I have an old pic somewhere from my Breach of my first dog walking on the kitchen tile floor. Not only could you see his footprints, but also his reflection in the tile. Miss you buddy! |
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Originally Posted By kel: New article on the V2 with some pics published this morning. Originally Posted By kel: New article on the V2 with some pics published this morning. Thanks, perhaps I was dense but that's a much better explanation of the changes than I've seen before. Definitely on the short list if I can get another thermal. Originally Posted By mPisi: I think my favorite thermal "thing" is the heat reflections. On a still night the trees behind my pond are perfectly reflected in the water. Or, the glowing bits of beaver/nutria are reflected in their fiery path through the firmament. (I did not even see the beaver in the background since I am using this as a clip-on in front of an ACOG.) Attached File Video question, does it record at 50hz or slower usual TV resolutions. Reason being I was hoping to catch a frame of the bullet in flight but it didn't. At this range it should have been visible in 2-3 frames but it seemed to jump. Or would a bullet moving ~40' in a frame not leave enough trace? |
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Originally Posted By Gullskjegg: Tagging in as I'm looking to get back into NV and leaning the bridged 14/thermal route. Would the RH25 benefit by having a Supergain WP 14? Or standard WP 14. Brightness wise. Either would be fine, may find the standard tube easier on the eyes versus the Korean tube. |
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Originally Posted By kel: New article on the V2 with some pics published this morning. Thanks for the link. I think a V2 is going to be my next purchase. |
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Originally Posted By Gullskjegg: Tagging in as I'm looking to get back into NV and leaning the bridged 14/thermal route. Would the RH25 benefit by having a Supergain WP 14? Or standard WP 14. Brightness wise. I have been using it for hand held/clip on. I just bought some bino NV that articulate to plan to be able to hold it up to either eye at a time but not walk around it with attached. |
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Originally Posted By DernHumpus: I do not like the bridged RH25 at all. I don't like it head mounted at all, the refresh rate makes it funny to walk with. I do not have buyers remorse based on that but an FYI to you that it may not be what you expect. I have been using it for hand held/clip on. I just bought some bino NV that articulate to plan to be able to hold it up to either eye at a time but not walk around it with attached. Originally Posted By DernHumpus: Originally Posted By Gullskjegg: Tagging in as I'm looking to get back into NV and leaning the bridged 14/thermal route. Would the RH25 benefit by having a Supergain WP 14? Or standard WP 14. Brightness wise. I have been using it for hand held/clip on. I just bought some bino NV that articulate to plan to be able to hold it up to either eye at a time but not walk around it with attached. I hadn't planned on walking with it, more just the convenience of it being on the helmet. But I am at a loss as to what I want to do if I'm honest. I would like binos, then have a thermal as handheld, clip-on, but that's mo money of course. |
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Originally Posted By GunnyFitz: It is definitely NOT what you think it will be like. Getting everything to line up "semi" correctly is a joke at best. This is why I ended up getting rid of my RH25. Don't get me wrong, it's a fantastic unit if you need and can use it helmet mounted. If you don't it just does everything "Okay". I'm a hunter and that's what I use thermals for. For scanning, you really need some native mag for identification. Same thing using it as a stand alone sight. You can certainly get it done with the RH25, but you are severely limiting yourself. As a clip on it works decently. Image is great up until about 4x then starts to drop. This may have been fixed with the V2, but automatically switching between clip on and scan mode every time you sat your rifle down was not ideal. Image quality is great, I can just accomplish way more for way less money for my purpose of shooting hogs and coyotes. |
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Originally Posted By Glck1911: This is why I ended up getting rid of my RH25. Don't get me wrong, it's a fantastic unit if you need and can use it helmet mounted. If you don't it just does everything "Okay". I'm a hunter and that's what I use thermals for. For scanning, you really need some native mag for identification. Same thing using it as a stand alone sight. You can certainly get it done with the RH25, but you are severely limiting yourself. As a clip on it works decently. Image is great up until about 4x then starts to drop. This may have been fixed with the V2, but automatically switching between clip on and scan mode every time you sat your rifle down was not ideal. Image quality is great, I can just accomplish way more for way less money for my purpose of shooting hogs and coyotes. What would you suggest instead of an RH25? Maybe a different Clip-On like the IRay MAH50 Mate, or a dedicated scope? |
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Originally Posted By Sniper3142: What would you suggest instead of an RH25? Maybe a different Clip-On like the IRay MAH50 Mate, or a dedicated scope? For hunting? I'd get a dedicated scope and separate scanner. You can accomplish that for the price of the RH25V2 and You'll be better served. |
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Time for some thread cross-over, so apologies to those in both threads who have to see it twice: Over in the PA SLx 3x thread, I had been playing with a setup that allowed sighting a 3x microprism through a tall RDS mount (like a poor-man's Leupold D-EVO). While discussing the concept and, now, a mount designed and manufactured for this specific purpose on a gentleman's IG, the question was posed: "would this work with an RH25?" Being equipped to do a little research into this (with the Overbore mount, anyway) I am amused to report that it does, indeed, work!    As you can see, there's a little shadowing at the top of the thermal image, but in use walking around the house pointing it at things, it wasn't super obvious/annoying. Keep in mind that the Flip is 2.69" advertised, whereas the Overbore is 2.33". Also, all I had was the ADM MQD mount. A lower pic mount may work better for tucking it in low and closer to the RDS mount, which may be preferable to some. However, the MQD does provide a cantilever to bring the thermal closer to you eye, which is also nice. I did not see how it all played with NODs but I suspect attempting to passive aim NV through your RDS with the thermal in place would cause a bunch of expensive things banging together but that is just speculation at this moment. |
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Originally Posted By Ex_Sanguine_Nation: Time for some thread cross-over, so apologies to those in both threads who have to see it twice: Over in the PA SLx 3x thread, I had been playing with a setup that allowed sighting a 3x microprism through a tall RDS mount (like a poor-man's Leupold D-EVO). While discussing the concept and, now, a mount designed and manufactured for this specific purpose on a gentleman's IG, the question was posed: "would this work with an RH25?" Being equipped to do a little research into this (with the Overbore mount, anyway) I am amused to report that it does, indeed, work! https://i.imgur.com/o63Crkb.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/MdiAcVl.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/lSdTe7z.jpeg As you can see, there's a little shadowing at the top of the thermal image, but in use walking around the house pointing it at things, it wasn't super obvious/annoying. Keep in mind that the Flip is 2.69" advertised, whereas the Overbore is 2.33". Also, all I had was the ADM MQD mount. A lower pic mount may work better for tucking it in low and closer to the RDS mount, which may be preferable to some. However, the MQD does provide a cantilever to bring the thermal closer to you eye, which is also nice. I did not see how it all played with NODs but I suspect attempting to passive aim NV through your RDS with the thermal in place would cause a bunch of expensive things banging together but that is just speculation at this moment. I never really practiced this, but looks about the same if one were to run a magnifier on a Unity Tactical FTC. Extend that buttstock if needed. |
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Originally Posted By WTFShane: I never really practiced this, but looks about the same if one were to run a magnifier on a Unity Tactical FTC. Extend that buttstock if needed. Yes, as with most piggyback dots, pushing it away with a longer rifle will help with the banging. Of course, if it's a magnifier, I just take it off for NVG play. |
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Originally Posted By Ex_Sanguine_Nation: Time for some thread cross-over, so apologies to those in both threads who have to see it twice: Over in the PA SLx 3x thread, I had been playing with a setup that allowed sighting a 3x microprism through a tall RDS mount (like a poor-man's Leupold D-EVO). While discussing the concept and, now, a mount designed and manufactured for this specific purpose on a gentleman's IG, the question was posed: "would this work with an RH25?" Being equipped to do a little research into this (with the Overbore mount, anyway) I am amused to report that it does, indeed, work! https://i.imgur.com/o63Crkb.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/MdiAcVl.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/lSdTe7z.jpeg As you can see, there's a little shadowing at the top of the thermal image, but in use walking around the house pointing it at things, it wasn't super obvious/annoying. Keep in mind that the Flip is 2.69" advertised, whereas the Overbore is 2.33". Also, all I had was the ADM MQD mount. A lower pic mount may work better for tucking it in low and closer to the RDS mount, which may be preferable to some. However, the MQD does provide a cantilever to bring the thermal closer to you eye, which is also nice. I did not see how it all played with NODs but I suspect attempting to passive aim NV through your RDS with the thermal in place would cause a bunch of expensive things banging together but that is just speculation at this moment. This is pretty neat |
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Originally Posted By KC-ROUGHNECK: Are you guys getting any screen flicker under recoil? Either recorded or picked up with the naked eye real time. How much do you think happens? Reviewing my video... maybe? Have not noticed anything in person. I need to review in a video editor to go frame by frame. Looks like just one frame that is mostly washed out, I thought it was just the initial flash from the shot? |
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Originally Posted By mPisi: How much do you think happens? Reviewing my video... maybe? Have not noticed anything in person. I need to review in a video editor to go frame by frame. Looks like just one frame that is mostly washed out, I thought it was just the initial flash from the shot? It might not happen at all with these units. I’m just doing some research on my first thermal and I thought I’d check with you guys. I’ve noticed this on another unit I’m looking at. Just trying to manage expectations |
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Here's some frame by frame with the recording. Armadillo control. 300BLK supersonic out of a Liberty Leonidas integral upper. Just taking a screenshot from the video program. 1 - final frame before the shot Attached File 2 - shot Attached File 3 - 1 frame after shot (very blurry, recoil effect?) Attached File 4 - 2 frames after shot Attached File 5 - 3 frames after shot (clearing) Attached File 6 - 4 frames after shot (almost clear but you can see the tree is not as detailed) Attached File 8 - 6 frames after shot (skipped one frame to show when the tree gets back to full detail) Attached File |
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Ideas for a lanyard mount? I'm getting a dedicated riflescope so RH25 will be more of a scanner. I have the SBR dovetail on it. Is there an easy way to mount a lanyard. I was thinking a dovetail female mount would be great so the RH25 with SBR could click in and out as needed. But I can't find something that doesn't have a $100 helmet mount attached.. I found some printable files that had a female plate that could be adpated, but there is no locking mechanism to keep the shoe it in place. |
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Originally Posted By mPisi: Ideas for a lanyard mount? I'm getting a dedicated riflescope so RH25 will be more of a scanner. I have the SBR dovetail on it. Is there an easy way to mount a lanyard. I was thinking a dovetail female mount would be great so the RH25 with SBR could click in and out as needed. But I can't find something that doesn't have a $100 helmet mount attached.. I found some printable files that had a female plate that could be adpated, but there is no locking mechanism to keep the shoe it in place. |
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Originally Posted By mPisi: ... Is there an easy way to mount a lanyard. I was thinking a dovetail female mount would be great so the RH25 with SBR could click in and out as needed. ... This product actually exists already, courtesy of Noisefighters: https://noisefighters.com/collections/nightvision/products/quicksave-a-qd-lanyard-for-night-vision-binoculars-thermal-monoculars |
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Originally Posted By Fongman: There's some ideas on page 16 of this thread that might help. Originally Posted By Fongman: Originally Posted By mPisi: Ideas for a lanyard mount? There's some ideas on page 16 of this thread that might help. Good stuff. I knew there would be some, I've been working my way back from 2024 and forward from page 1, haven't met in the middle yet. Originally Posted By javemtr: This product actually exists already, courtesy of Noisefighters: https://noisefighters.com/collections/nightvision/products/quicksave-a-qd-lanyard-for-night-vision-binoculars-thermal-monoculars That's exactly the $30 printed part I wanted, too bad it has the usual 1.5x NV premium. Someday maybe, |
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Speaking of 3D printing, here's the RH 25 we have at home. Claims down to $400 range for 256 https://old.reddit.com/r/DigitalNightVision/comments/1i58yzn/project_thermal_is_done_device_works_great_i_will/ |
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I messed up... While trying to diagnose what happened I found the ocular adjustment two white dots were no longer aligned (it had been passed around quite a bit in a group during deer season) and I wasn't 100% confident I put it in clip-on mode from scanning hand held. Can you tell from the video what mode it is in? Live and learn... Any idea why the scaling/blurriness is occurring in the beginning of the video? Looking through some twigs? This is the first time I have had a coyote make such an effort to get downwind of me. The one I shot at travelled 270 degrees to get around me. |
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^ that's a new one to me Self-portrait tonight (cropped video still). I had set up the rifle and then went to check out a suspiciously hot area, that turned out to be an anthill. Later tonight went out and got 2 beavers with 2 shots, neighbor said she did not even hear my subsonic 300blk. Attached File |
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Birds this morning. Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By CDN_Datawraith: Apologies if it's already been mentioned, but has anybody tried running the RH25 together with a GLX 1x Microprism? I assume it'd help with the viewability like a lpvo on 1x does? I don’t own an RH25, but I use my StingIR with a 1x Microprism all the time and it’s great. The RH25 screen is even bigger than the StingIR’s so I would only assume it would work even better. |
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CHS just released their own Flip to Side mount. Looks nice but pricey. FTS Mount |
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Originally Posted By MtnRoamer: CHS just released their own Flip to Side mount. Looks nice but pricey. FTS Mount |
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| Excuse the novice question, but I am looking into buying my first thermal. The RH25v2 has captured my attention, as I’d like to be able to swap from helmet to weapon, how’s the RES on this with zoom? I’d be putting this infront of a 3.6-18x, curious if it would work well. |
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Originally Posted By lvndmark: Excuse the novice question, but I am looking into buying my first thermal. The RH25v2 has captured my attention, as I'd like to be able to swap from helmet to weapon, how's the RES on this with zoom? I'd be putting this infront of a 3.6-18x, curious if it would work well. |
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Originally Posted By DernHumpus: I would not recommend it on anything except a 1x LVPO. It isn't that it won't work, it is that it works so well at the 1x magnification. Originally Posted By DernHumpus: Originally Posted By lvndmark: Excuse the novice question, but I am looking into buying my first thermal. The RH25v2 has captured my attention, as I'd like to be able to swap from helmet to weapon, how's the RES on this with zoom? I'd be putting this infront of a 3.6-18x, curious if it would work well. You can use the RH25 with that optic but it will definitely not be ideal but it’s doable. The RH25 does well up until about 6x then after that it’s usable but not very good. I definitely prefer it in front of an LPVO at like 2x or 3x or a red dot with magnifier. There are other options more optimally suites for clip on thermals for that magification range, but the RH25 can still work. |
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I would definitely look to keep it under 6X |
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Around 4x is where I’d try not to exceed. Made up this little field of view chart for comparing different units - it’s been helpful to see where different (mostly clipon) products fall compared to others. That last column is calibrated to a completely subjective perspective that the VooDoo-S looked good up to about 5x.
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Originally Posted By DernHumpus: I think you would find you would keep it at that 3.6x. I don't take mine over 3 or so. Agree. I have the best luck on my 3 and 4X ACOG. |
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Does anyone know why the manual says not to mount it backwards in the pictail mount? As in, cantilevered back instead of over the mount. When looking at it, there is no difference in the amount of contact to the mount, since the bottom of the optic doesn't touch the mount even when its mounted "correctly". The reason being is I am probably going to end up using my RL25 as a dedicated optic and I need a little more eye relief. I wanted to use it as a clip on but I guess I'm an idiot and missed that the rl doesn't have that mode...  I've tried zeroing the reticle through an optic and that left me with a wandering zero.
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Originally Posted By 2apatriot: Does anyone know why the manual says not to mount it backwards in the pictail mount? As in, cantilevered back instead of over the mount. When looking at it, there is no difference in the amount of contact to the mount, since the bottom of the optic doesn't touch the mount even when its mounted "correctly". The reason being is I am probably going to end up using my RL25 as a dedicated optic and I need a little more eye relief. I wanted to use it as a clip on but I guess I'm an idiot and missed that the rl doesn't have that mode... I've tried zeroing the reticle through an optic and that left me with a wandering zero.Maybe they think you'll be looking into the objective. I joke, but also... |
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I've been out of thermal for a while but the new V2 has got me thinking about getting back in. Can someone clarify something about the clip on mode for me... Can set multiple collimation profiles on the V2? Meaning having Rifle 1, 2, & 3 set up for instance. So I can switch between multiple rifles and readjust the collimation to that optic by selecting that profile, without having to perform a new collimation to switch between rifles. Thanks |
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Originally Posted By EZToForget: I've been out of thermal for a while but the new V2 has got me thinking about getting back in. Can someone clarify something about the clip on mode for me... Can set multiple collimation profiles on the V2? Meaning having Rifle 1, 2, & 3 set up for instance. So I can switch between multiple rifles and readjust the collimation to that optic by selecting that profile, without having to perform a new collimation to switch between rifles. Thanks Unfortunately not. Or at least I haven’t figured it out. But it’s easy just to write down the different settings and switch them quickly when swapping rifles. |
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