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Posted: 10/26/2018 6:31:29 PM EDT
Just picked it up from my FFL this afternoon.
  
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Posted: 10/26/2018 6:37:25 PM EDT
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There is a little issue with the gun, there are two screws missing on the side of the rail
Now, I'm debating on the scope, should I go with Leopold MK6 3-18x44 or S&B PMII 3-20x50? BTW, the Surefire rc suppressor wasn't mounted, I only put it on for the look.   
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Posted: 10/26/2018 6:38:03 PM EDT
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Awesome, congrats!
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Posted: 10/26/2018 6:53:33 PM EDT
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If you are going with a top of the line scope Tangent Theta or U S Optics B17 personally I really like the EREK knob on the U S Optics.
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Posted: 10/26/2018 10:35:22 PM EDT
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Skip the PMII....outdated, heavy, and controls suck...compared to current offerings from others anyway. NF ATACR line is very impressive. Mk6 is very lightweight for what it is but not really quite in the same league...but not a bad scope either for the money if you pick one up used in the EE.
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Posted: 10/27/2018 12:00:15 AM EDT
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That is just awesome, looking forward to feedback after the range.
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Posted: 10/27/2018 1:10:04 AM EDT
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Over 5k with a finish that looks like it was applied by century arms of a Friday. How does it shoot? |
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Posted: 10/27/2018 9:22:53 AM EDT
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Go with the Mk 6 if you want to save some weight, or want something closer to ‘clone correct’. Otherwise, there are better options. Personally, if I were going all out on this I’d be looking at an ATACR or Razor or so.
More importantly, that’s one of the coolest rifles in circulation. Put something nice on it whatever you do, throw some FGMM downrange and tell us how she shoots! Congrats! |
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Posted: 10/28/2018 5:27:24 AM EDT
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Super jelly. Was told mine ships Tuesday. How long did it take to receive from shipping?
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Posted: 10/28/2018 6:07:20 AM EDT
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The anger sharks are swimming! Ggrrrr!
Congrats! |
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Posted: 10/28/2018 9:17:45 AM EDT
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Thank you guys. Just ordered MK6 from optic planet. I
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Posted: 10/28/2018 9:18:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Super jelly. Was told mine ships Tuesday. How long did it take to receive from shipping? |
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Posted: 10/28/2018 9:26:36 AM EDT
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Nice rifle. What’s up with the finish?
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Posted: 10/28/2018 10:45:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Nice rifle. What’s up with the finish? |
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Posted: 10/28/2018 10:48:58 AM EDT
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Nice rifle. What’s up with the finish? |
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Posted: 10/28/2018 2:54:24 PM EDT
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Hey it's weird I dont see FN Herstal/Belgium anywhere on the receiver.
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Posted: 10/28/2018 2:58:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just noticed that myself, its a very strange color. They shoot wonderfully. I was testing one out this week and we were getting aprrox 3/4 MOA in informal testing from a bipod with 168gr match. |
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Posted: 10/28/2018 8:51:13 PM EDT
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I didn't even realize they were selling the 20s. I completely missed that memo. That is sexy as all get out. Thanks for sharing OP.
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Posted: 10/28/2018 9:20:08 PM EDT
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Hey it's weird I dont see FN Herstal/Belgium anywhere on the receiver. |
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Posted: 10/28/2018 10:11:02 PM EDT
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Skip the PMII....outdated, heavy, and controls suck...compared to current offerings from others anyway. NF ATACR line is very impressive. Mk6 is very lightweight for what it is but not really quite in the same league...but not a bad scope either for the money if you pick one up used in the EE. 
Leupold Mark 5 is lighter I believe. Just sighted mine in today on my 17. Happy so far.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 10/28/2018 10:13:25 PM EDT
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Doop. 
Leupold Mark 5 is lighter I believe. Supposedly solved the mushy turrets on some MK 6’s. Just sighted mine in today on my 17. Happy so far. |
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Posted: 10/29/2018 9:27:57 AM EDT
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May be old news, but I just noticed the multi-cal marking on the upper. That seems to suggest that a 6.5 creed may be available at some point.
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Posted: 10/29/2018 10:37:48 PM EDT
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Super jelly. Was told mine ships Tuesday. How long did it take to receive from shipping? |
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Posted: 11/2/2018 11:27:11 AM EDT
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Congrats! Fantastic looking rifle!
I've been waiting nearly 5 months for my SCAR to get to my supplier... 
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Posted: 11/5/2018 4:12:40 PM EDT
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SERIOUS QUESTION ....
I'm not bashing anyone's choice on how to spend their money, but I do have a serious question about this rifle... What benefit is gained from the extended upper? The barrel is free floated so why not just replace the barrel in a standard 17? Again, I'm looking for technical reasons why this is superior to a standard 17 with the same barrel attached. |
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Posted: 11/5/2018 4:15:29 PM EDT
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I'm not a SCAR variant expert, but it appears the same results could be obtained from buying a SCAR-17 and changing the barrel and stock. The money recovered from selling the original barrel and stock would offset the cost of the upgrade. Alternatively, keep the spare parts and still be money ahead PLUS you have a whole freaking barrel and stock assembly.
I'm a SCAR fan so I'd like to understand the technical data / product improvements on this verses what I recommended above? ETA: If the reason to buy one of these is ... "its cool" ... I understand that reason for ownership as well. However, is it somehow ... "better" than an upgraded 17? |
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Posted: 11/5/2018 5:11:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
SERIOUS QUESTION .... I'm not bashing anyone's choice on how to spend their money, but I do have a serious question about this rifle... What benefit is gained from the extended upper? The barrel is free floated so why not just replace the barrel in a standard 17? Again, I'm looking for technical reasons why this is superior to a standard 17 with the same barrel attached. Stephen |
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Posted: 11/5/2018 5:35:09 PM EDT
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I'm not a SCAR variant expert, but it appears the same results could be obtained from buying a SCAR-17 and changing the barrel and stock. The money recovered from selling the original barrel and stock would offset the cost of the upgrade. Alternatively, keep the spare parts and still be money ahead PLUS you have a whole freaking barrel and stock assembly. I'm a SCAR fan so I'd like to understand the technical data / product improvements on this verses what I recommended above? ETA: If the reason to buy one of these is ... "its cool" ... I understand that reason for ownership as well. However, is it somehow ... "better" than an upgraded 17? SCAR 17S - $3000 Better trigger, really 3 to choose from, - $250-$300 The target stocks seem to be - $300 20" FNH barrel - $1,200 So a 17S decked out's going to run you roughly $4,500-$4,800 with a barrel left over. The 20S is a heavier barrel with two extra screws holding it in for a more stable shot at ranges. You can find the 20S for $4,500. |
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Posted: 11/5/2018 6:33:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The barrel attaches to the receiver with 2 additional screws and there is also a special barrel nut, both of which give the Mk20 the potential for better accuracy/repeatability over the Mk17. Same goes for the fixed, adjustable stock and the trigger (the original Mk20's had an improved factory trigger instead of a Geissele). Stephen |
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Posted: 11/5/2018 6:36:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Roughly speaking..... SCAR 17S - $3000 Better trigger, really 3 to choose from, - $250-$300 The target stocks seem to be - $300 20" FNH barrel - $1,200 So a 17S decked out's going to run you roughly $4,500-$4,800 with a barrel left over. The 20S is a heavier barrel with two extra screws holding it in for a more stable shot at ranges. You can find the 20S for $4,500. SCAR-17 .... $2800-3000 G Super Scar .... $275 Stock Upgrade .... $300 Barrel .... $1200 Sell Factory Stock .... ($100) Sell Factory Barrel .... ($400) Total Cost .... $4,075 to $4275 If the 20 is a better rifle I get it. I didn't know about the additional screws. |
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Posted: 11/6/2018 3:41:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
SERIOUS QUESTION .... I'm not bashing anyone's choice on how to spend their money, but I do have a serious question about this rifle... What benefit is gained from the extended upper? The barrel is free floated so why not just replace the barrel in a standard 17? Again, I'm looking for technical reasons why this is superior to a standard 17 with the same barrel attached. the only reason why the 20 would be considered superior is the heavier barrel which is either not compatible with the 17 or will not be sold by FN. But its still a 308... So IMO, dropping a aftermarket 6.5CM would lead to a more capable rifle |
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Posted: 11/6/2018 1:28:24 PM EDT
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Can someone point me to how close the 20S is to the Mk20? Is it the same thing part for part?
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Posted: 11/6/2018 1:50:30 PM EDT
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Can someone point me to how close the 20S is to the Mk20? Is it the same thing part for part? |
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Posted: 11/6/2018 2:04:46 PM EDT
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Can someone point me to how close the 20S is to the Mk20? Is it the same thing part for part? It is just speculation, but for the bolt, carrier, screws, springs, small parts, etc. I would doubt that FN would have two different production lines for all of that. Doing so would be pretty expensive, and shipping from Belgium is cheaper and faster than setting up a bunch of sub component suppliers and production lines. Probably anything that is not required to be US made is going to be the same for both. Again, this is speculation, but I assume FN likes to make a profit, so it seems to be a logical route. From the standpoint of finish, quality, and other factors, the 20S is a very well put together gun. It is very soft shooting and very accurate, but I have only had time to do a quickie zero at 100m and hopefully can get out on the 1000 yard range this weekend. The anodizing on the first batch is also more "golden sand" than "dark earth", but this is something that will change from batch to batch anyway. A few years ago at Milipol, the FDE SCARs on FN's stand had this same color variation. I think this was mentioned as a knock on the first set of pictures, but isn't a quality or a finish issue. |
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Posted: 11/6/2018 2:07:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Minus the select fire portion I believe it's the same. |
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Posted: 11/6/2018 3:34:16 PM EDT
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Roughly speaking..... SCAR 17S - $3000 Better trigger, really 3 to choose from, - $250-$300 The target stocks seem to be - $300 20" FNH barrel - $1,200 So a 17S decked out's going to run you roughly $4,500-$4,800 with a barrel left over. The 20S is a heavier barrel with two extra screws holding it in for a more stable shot at ranges. You can find the 20S for $4,500. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not a SCAR variant expert, but it appears the same results could be obtained from buying a SCAR-17 and changing the barrel and stock. The money recovered from selling the original barrel and stock would offset the cost of the upgrade. Alternatively, keep the spare parts and still be money ahead PLUS you have a whole freaking barrel and stock assembly. I'm a SCAR fan so I'd like to understand the technical data / product improvements on this verses what I recommended above? ETA: If the reason to buy one of these is ... "its cool" ... I understand that reason for ownership as well. However, is it somehow ... "better" than an upgraded 17? SCAR 17S - $3000 Better trigger, really 3 to choose from, - $250-$300 The target stocks seem to be - $300 20" FNH barrel - $1,200 So a 17S decked out's going to run you roughly $4,500-$4,800 with a barrel left over. The 20S is a heavier barrel with two extra screws holding it in for a more stable shot at ranges. You can find the 20S for $4,500. The price for the 20s isn't out of line imo. |
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Posted: 11/6/2018 4:19:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anecdotally, if I compare my 20S to MK20 variants I have seen, they appear to be the same specs. One key thing is that the MK20 is a FN Belgium product since mil/gov guns are exempt from "non-sporting" import bans and other foolishness, and until the laws change you can't get the exact same gun. The 20S is made here, likely has a US barrel, and has a Geissele trigger. The MK20 has imported parts for all of that. If FN just moved a machine across the Atlantic, the output would be identical. It is just speculation, but for the bolt, carrier, screws, springs, small parts, etc. I would doubt that FN would have two different production lines for all of that. Doing so would be pretty expensive, and shipping from Belgium is cheaper and faster than setting up a bunch of sub component suppliers and production lines. Probably anything that is not required to be US made is going to be the same for both. Again, this is speculation, but I assume FN likes to make a profit, so it seems to be a logical route. From the standpoint of finish, quality, and other factors, the 20S is a very well put together gun. It is very soft shooting and very accurate, but I have only had time to do a quickie zero at 100m and hopefully can get out on the 1000 yard range this weekend. The anodizing on the first batch is also more "golden sand" than "dark earth", but this is something that will change from batch to batch anyway. A few years ago at Milipol, the FDE SCARs on FN's stand had this same color variation. I think this was mentioned as a knock on the first set of pictures, but isn't a quality or a finish issue. |
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Posted: 11/6/2018 4:23:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The MK20 isn't select fire. FN does make a Euro SCAR variant that is. That is the SCAR H-PR and H-TPR |
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Posted: 11/6/2018 5:35:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am sure somebody will post a comparison eventually but basically the 20 has a heavier barrel, secures it via 3 cross bolts opposed to 2. should lead to more consistency. it has a more durable stock ,A longer receiver the only reason why the 20 would be considered superior is the heavier barrel which is either not compatible with the 17 or will not be sold by FN. But its still a 308... So IMO, dropping a aftermarket 6.5CM would lead to a more capable rifle |
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Posted: 11/6/2018 6:17:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Actually the SCARS are made in Belgium, there are just a few finishing touches here in the USA after they are imported. |
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Posted: 11/6/2018 6:51:06 PM EDT
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@TAHK or others that have the new 20s, any range reviews of it yet? Real world experience?
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Posted: 11/6/2018 8:35:47 PM EDT
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Sent mine back last Friday back to FN for warranty service- missing two screws on the rail. Emailed FN ask them to mail me the screws, they sent me a FedEx label and told me I have to ship the gun back to get it fixed
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Posted: 11/7/2018 8:26:46 AM EDT
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Just saw an email, holy crap its here!
Apparently I'm late to the party. Hope the QC gets better lol. Anyone know if Scar 17 mags are compatible?
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Posted: 11/7/2018 12:47:51 PM EDT
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Just saw an email, holy crap its here! Apparently I'm late to the party. Hope the QC gets better lol. Anyone know if Scar 17 mags are compatible? |
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Posted: 11/9/2018 1:23:07 PM EDT
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Awesome, congrats! |
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Posted: 11/10/2018 1:25:31 PM EDT
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The civilian 20 is made here. FNUSA is the manufacturer, not FN Herstal. The box for mine also said “made in USA”. |
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Posted: 11/10/2018 1:57:54 PM EDT
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It's beautiful
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Posted: 11/10/2018 2:51:39 PM EDT
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I'm curious to hear how well it does at long range with the barrel twist it has.
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Posted: 11/11/2018 12:09:07 PM EDT
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I'm curious to hear how well it does at long range with the barrel twist it has. |
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Posted: 11/11/2018 12:59:38 PM EDT
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People are way to obsessed with barrel twist. My FN SPR A3G has a 1 in 12 twist as well. I can pretty consistently ring a 10” plate at 1,100 yards at the Boulder City range using both 168’s and 175’s. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm curious to hear how well it does at long range with the barrel twist it has. |
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Posted: 11/12/2018 3:34:40 PM EDT
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We received a 20S today and someone at FN smashed the small nub on the lower into the bolt catch. The nub is mangled, and enough plastic has been deformed that it prevents the bolt catch from rotating.
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