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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:57:49 PM EDT
I had a Thumbler Tumbler for many years, but when I moved, it got tossed by accident
I am ready to replace it What is the go to for wet tumbling these days |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 10:00:21 PM EDT
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F.A.R.T.
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Posted: 3/28/2024 10:27:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By harrymank: F.A.R.T. This is truly the correct answer. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 10:35:16 PM EDT
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FART, and do yourself a favor and buy a FART extractor.
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Posted: 3/28/2024 10:50:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ThePontificator]
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Uh, what exactly is a "FART extractor"?
I'm serious.  Are you referring to FA's high-end media separator? The one with the screen drain in the bottom? |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 12:10:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By muddawggin: This is truly the correct answer. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By muddawggin: Originally Posted By harrymank: F.A.R.T. This is truly the correct answer. It's the only answer. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 12:23:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: dryflash3]
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Fart thread that was saved from the archives.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/Frankford-Arsenal-wet-tumbler-thread-FART-chime-in-if-you-have-one-/42-438761/ |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 2:39:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThePontificator: Uh, what exactly is a "FART extractor"? I'm serious. Are you referring to FA's high-end media separator? The one with the screen drain in the bottom? https://sunbrodesigns.com/products/the-fart-extractor-by-the-slowestbro |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 3:12:16 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By uafgrad: I had a Thumbler Tumbler for many years, but when I moved, it got tossed by accident I am ready to replace it What is the go to for wet tumbling these days Why not another Thumbler? |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 3:33:55 AM EDT
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I’ll be the outlier and recommend the Rebel 17.
https://stainlesstumblingmedia.com/extreme-tumblers-rebel-17.html |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 3/29/2024 8:58:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Mav3rick]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By harrymank: F.A.R.T. FPNI There's also a guy on here-arfcom name is obsessed or something like that. He sells 3D printed stuff for it (funnel and T-handle to tighten and loosen lids)that makes the farts even easier to use. I still have an old thumblers tumbler that I use for pistol brass, but in my opinion the fart is superior to it and others like it for the following reasons Fart is easier to open and close. No small wing nuts or knobs to mess with It holds much more water , pins and brass ( thumblers weight limit is 5lbs, fart is 30 or something like that) Less moving parts Lower maintenance |
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KS, USA
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Posted: 3/29/2024 9:13:44 AM EDT
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Thumler’s Model B for 10+ years, never had an issue with it.
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:49:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-60: Why not another Thumbler? Not against it, just seeing what the best options are at this point |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 2:15:01 PM EDT
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If you go Thumlers make sure you get the High Speed version. There is two Model B Versions.
My Model B is from the late 80's. Save for the motor and base I have replaced rollers and belts. I changed the liner. But it still works! |
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ON, CAN
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Posted: 3/29/2024 2:27:13 PM EDT
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There's a good thread here: https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/How-i-built-my-own-rotary-tumbler/42-344986/
I built my tumbler using a lot of info I read there. Sure, you gotta be handy, but building your own means you can go much larger than most of the tumblers you can just go and buy. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 2:46:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rn22723: If you go Thumlers make sure you get the High Speed version. There is two Model B Versions. My Model B is from the late 80's. Save for the motor and base I have replaced rollers and belts. I changed the liner. But it still works! Changed with the hi speed motor, 3,000 rpm. Of course tumbling time cut in half. Had both over 10 years. Had to replace both drums, my fault. When dropped when full they get bent. Changed 1 belt, one of them will need rollers soon. Have a big bag of spare parts, so no wait for parts. Don't forget to oil the motors every so often. I use a drop of Hoppe's gun oil both ends of motor. Old school is best school if maintained. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 10:58:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cat-mechanic: I’ll be the outlier and recommend the Rebel 17. https://stainlesstumblingmedia.com/extreme-tumblers-rebel-17.html Why? The Rebel holds 1gal of water, costs $260 and the FART holds 1.85 gal and costs $171 (at Midway currently). What advantages does the rebel have? |
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NM, USA
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Posted: 3/30/2024 12:01:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: jbmillard]
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I had a Thumbler's. Had to deal with rust. Had to replace the bearings (they look like Delrin) and the belt.
My has F.A.R.T. lasted much longer than the Thumbler's. |
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Posted: 3/30/2024 9:51:34 AM EDT
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Started out way back with a couple of Thumbler's. They worked OK. Got a deal on a Rebel 17. Built a lot nicer with real bearings. Got rid of the Tumbler's and bought another Rebel. Never looked back.
I do limit brass amount to no more than 5#s, with 5#s of stainless pins. |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 3/30/2024 11:42:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uafgrad: Not against it, just seeing what the best options are at this point A china made tool is never going to be the 'best' option.  |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 3/30/2024 11:48:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jbmillard: I had a Thumbler's. Had to deal with rust. Had to replace the bearings (they look like Delrin) and the belt. My has F.A.R.T. lasted much longer than the Thumbler's. The later models of Thumler are powder coated inside and out. Unless you beat the heck out of it somehow and kill the coating there is nothing that can or will rust. Not sure what bearing you are talking about but the ones inside the motor are definitely NOT delrin and not going to take a dump in any hurry. Do you mean the roller guides for the drum??? |
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Posted: 3/30/2024 11:51:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DDRanch: Started out way back with a couple of Thumbler's. They worked OK. Got a deal on a Rebel 17. Built a lot nicer with real bearings. Got rid of the Tumbler's and bought another Rebel. Never looked back. I do limit brass amount to no more than 5#s, with 5#s of stainless pins. The plastic bearing don't wear out if you keep them lubed. I use Hoppe's gun oil for the motor bearings and the shaft bearings. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1240126157?pid=126157 This is an old school design, you have to lube it every so often. |
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Posted: 3/30/2024 12:45:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blowout: Why? The Rebel holds 1gal of water, costs $260 and the FART holds 1.85 gal and costs $171 (at Midway currently). What advantages does the rebel have? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blowout: Originally Posted By cat-mechanic: I’ll be the outlier and recommend the Rebel 17. https://stainlesstumblingmedia.com/extreme-tumblers-rebel-17.html Why? The Rebel holds 1gal of water, costs $260 and the FART holds 1.85 gal and costs $171 (at Midway currently). What advantages does the rebel have? That takes us to the whole China vs USA debate. Rebel is made in USA, has real bearings on the drum support rollers and built from steel and FART is made in China and made of plastic. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 3/30/2024 1:52:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cat-mechanic: I’ll be the outlier and recommend the Rebel 17. https://stainlesstumblingmedia.com/extreme-tumblers-rebel-17.html I'm even more an outlier I'd bet. https://lortone.com/products/model-45c I use a Lortone rock tumbler. I had a couple when I discovered wet tumbling and just used what I had. I actually like it a lot. It's slower than the ones for brass, but also really quiet. If you need to tumble a thousand pistol cases at a time it won't work well, but I only do around 150 308 cases or a few hundred revolver cases at a time. I usually run it for 3-4 hours. Made in the USA too.  
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Posted: 3/30/2024 5:41:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cat-mechanic: I’ll be the outlier and recommend the Rebel 17. https://stainlesstumblingmedia.com/extreme-tumblers-rebel-17.html I currently have a Thumblers Model B and am considering adding another tumbler. This is exactly what I was eyeballing. It looks to be very durable and of excellent quality. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 3/30/2024 8:31:29 PM EDT
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I have two Frankford Large tumblers.
Combined they have both cleaned around 20k rounds. Still going strong with no issues. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 3/31/2024 9:31:43 PM EDT
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If you have the tools and skills, build your own. It will always be superior to anything you can buy. Price will be pretty much what you are willing to put into it.
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Posted: 3/31/2024 10:07:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ABR65: Thumler’s Model B for 10+ years, never had an issue with it. This. It's much nicer than my buddies FA FART. I'd get another one in a heartbeat. |
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Posted: 3/31/2024 10:10:45 PM EDT
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Just buy the FART and use stainless steel pins for media.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1019367221?pid=764421 |
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Posted: 3/31/2024 11:11:24 PM EDT
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F A R T
Get two drums. One dedicated to the SS media. One dedicated to bare /no media. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/1/2024 8:52:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cat-mechanic: That takes us to the whole China vs USA debate. Rebel is made in USA, has real bearings on the drum support rollers and built from steel and FART is made in China and made of plastic. I have cleaned over 1/2 million pieces of brass in my FART. Zero issues and it still hums along just like day one. My 'plastic' unit has been excellent. Don't waste money unnecessarily. |
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Posted: 4/1/2024 9:25:54 AM EDT
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no one uses the Dillon? I've had the large one for decades and have sent it back to rebuild once. Cleaned tens of thousands of pieces of brass.
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Posted: 4/1/2024 10:32:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mannyCA: no one uses the Dillon? I've had the large one for decades and have sent it back to rebuild once. Cleaned tens of thousands of pieces of brass. The Dillon one is a dry tumbler. The OP here asked about a wet tumbler. Dillon doesn't make one of those yet. |
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Posted: 4/1/2024 10:35:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Metonymy: I have cleaned over 1/2 million pieces of brass in my FART. Zero issues and it still hums along just like day one. My 'plastic' unit has been excellent. Don't waste money unnecessarily. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Metonymy: Originally Posted By cat-mechanic: That takes us to the whole China vs USA debate. Rebel is made in USA, has real bearings on the drum support rollers and built from steel and FART is made in China and made of plastic. I have cleaned over 1/2 million pieces of brass in my FART. Zero issues and it still hums along just like day one. My 'plastic' unit has been excellent. Don't waste money unnecessarily. I'd still rather support American businesses, rather than send money to China. But hey, you do you. That's all I'll say about that so I don't get in trouble. 
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