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Posted: 2/9/2018 1:40:24 PM EDT
Good to see my account still works after ignoring it for 10 years.
 Just thinking randomly... I almost never see Scar 17s around "out in the wild"... I've been looking for them ever since I got one last year (I'm not rich but I turned 40 and figured it was cheaper than a convertible and a mistress  ). I only rarely see them in gun stores and have been to 4 different gun shows in the past year or so without seeing a single one. I never see anyone else with a Scar at the range and it attracts annoying amounts of attention when I take it anywhere.Look on the internet though and there are craptons of Scar 17 threads and pics; almost makes SCARs look as popular as ARs. The gun has been available for a while now... are they all hiding in the back of gun safes or are there actually very few of them actually out there? Is there some Scar owner's law that says we have to plaster pics of them all over the net? Is it even worth getting interested/excited over to you if you see one? I just don't understand why such a supposedly popular rifle doesn't show up more in the real world... at least from my perspective. Anyway, please edjumacate me on this.... |
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Posted: 2/9/2018 2:50:04 PM EDT
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FN rifles always attract attention. They are all safe queens. No one shoots 308 in volume like 556. Mags arent cheap. Cant put a cheap optic on it because poor people.
They are out there. Can find them on average $2700 ish. Come with 1 FN mag... Every other FNH gun on planet horse-shit comes with 3. I'm just here to bitch. But yeah, they exist. |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 2:46:17 AM EDT
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I've only ever seen one in the wild.
It was set up as a DMR rig with a "special" lower (better trigger). |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 12:38:46 PM EDT
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I see lots of them at gun shows, 4 or 5 at each show being typical. Sometimes there will be more scar 17s than 16s. They come up for sale regularly on our state's used gun trader, usually at laughable prices. Could be they aren't as common in Utah.
Eta: I think most of the gun shops around tend to have them in stock too somewhat regularly. Virginia is pretty good about the volume of guns we have, we just don't have as many places to shoot them. |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 12:56:40 PM EDT
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I see them around here all the time. I have 2 and two of my friends have their own
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I see lots of them at gun shows, 4 or 5 at each show being typical. Sometimes there will be more scar 17s than 16s. They come up for sale regularly on our state's used gun trader, usually at laughable prices. Could be they aren't as common in Utah. Eta: I think most of the gun shops around tend to have them in stock too somewhat regularly. Virginia is pretty good about the volume of guns we have, we just don't have as many places to shoot them. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 3:34:00 AM EDT
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FN rifles always attract attention. They are all safe queens. No one shoots 308 in volume like 556. Mags arent cheap. Cant put a cheap optic on it because poor people. They are out there. Can find them on average $2700 ish. Come with 1 FN mag... Every other FNH gun on planet horse-shit comes with 3. I'm just here to bitch. But yeah, they exist.
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Posted: 2/11/2018 8:16:27 PM EDT
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Thanks all for the info... maybe SCARs just aren't big sellers here or maybe I just don't get out enough.
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Posted: 2/12/2018 4:49:49 AM EDT
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I've only ever seen one in the wild. It was set up as a DMR rig with a "special" lower (better trigger). |
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Posted: 2/12/2018 10:48:04 AM EDT
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I've never seen a 17 at a range but granted I don't shoot a lot. That being said, my range is a pretty popular rangenwith the young crowd in a large military town
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Posted: 2/12/2018 12:35:34 PM EDT
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When I pull mine out I get lots of questions then those shooting near me get agitated and move or leave because of the brake concussion.
I have seen two at my range and those are friends of mine. |
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Posted: 2/12/2018 4:46:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you do me a solid and point me in the direction of the $2700 FDE 17s. I'll send you a $50 finders fee. |
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Posted: 2/12/2018 5:22:06 PM EDT
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Lol, maybe because a very small minority of the shooting population would/could afford a $3000 rifle and the expensive ammo to feed it?
Not hating, but 99.9% of shooters are not arfcommers, and only a handful of arfcommers have them. |
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Posted: 2/12/2018 7:49:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you do me a solid and point me in the direction of the $2700 FDE 17s. I'll send you a $50 finders fee. http://www.specialistgunshop.com/fnusa.htm Do I really get $50? |
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Posted: 2/12/2018 8:17:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryYes, I'm serious. I called on that and unfortunately they are out of stock. Thanks for trying though. Heck, if someone finds a NIB FN SCAR 17s FDE for $2950 or less before I give up and order a black one, I'll send them $50. Lol! |
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Posted: 2/12/2018 8:20:39 PM EDT
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I paid $2,750 for an FDE 17s about four or five months ago. If you search you can find them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Can you do me a solid and point me in the direction of the $2700 FDE 17s. I'll send you a $50 finders fee. |
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Posted: 2/12/2018 8:21:39 PM EDT
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Saw one guy shooting his 17s on Saturday at the local action rifle match.
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Posted: 2/12/2018 8:22:13 PM EDT
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I never see them in the wild much and I know at least one guy that has one , but he never shoots it.
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Posted: 2/12/2018 8:27:05 PM EDT
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 Do they look like these 2? |
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Posted: 2/12/2018 8:29:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/12/2018 8:54:28 PM EDT
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I paid 2800 for a “used” one 5 months ago. Seriously I don’t think the guy even shot it. Came with the FNH rail extension and a leupold scope and leupold mount. Two mags. I wasn’t planning on buying one but when I saw that I went home and dug out that emergency credit card and got it the next day. I have shot it exactly one time since I bought it. I need to shoot it more.
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Posted: 2/13/2018 11:28:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, I'm serious. I called on that and unfortunately they are out of stock. Thanks for trying though. Heck, if someone finds a NIB FN SCAR 17s FDE for $2950 or less before I give up and order a black one, I'll send them $50. Lol! Here I'll re link. http://www.specialistgunshop.com/fnusa.htm |
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Posted: 2/13/2018 12:18:57 PM EDT
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I've seen one (range rental gun) in the last several years. Rented it, shot it, hated the noise and concussion, saved myself $3k
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Posted: 2/13/2018 4:21:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There was 2 links. The second one was $2769 I think. Gotta scroll down for the FDE 17s. It's not a real great site, but if they have what you want... Here I'll re link. http://www.specialistgunshop.com/fnusa.htm |
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Posted: 2/13/2018 4:41:28 PM EDT
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Black or "50 shades of FDE", a SCAR is a SCAR. The militaries of the world use both colors too.
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Posted: 2/17/2018 6:03:00 PM EDT
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Hmm I just realized that I’ve only ever seen one other scar 17 in the wild. I tend to shoot with friends on their private land unless it’s freezing or raining outside. I do go to a local 100yd range to zero rifles and get velocity data on reloads, but I try to go on weekdays when it’s empty.
Huh... You just made me realize I love shooting and going shooting with friends but hate doing so I’m crowded areas amongst strangers. Just don’t trust the safety and common sense of unknown people I guess. |
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Posted: 2/19/2018 2:42:58 PM EDT
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I have mine. I don't obsess about other people having them or not, or liking them or not. I'm happy with mine and that satisfies me.
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Posted: 2/19/2018 2:44:55 PM EDT
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I've seen one (range rental gun) in the last several years. Rented it, shot it, hated the noise and concussion, saved myself $3k |
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Posted: 2/19/2018 3:10:27 PM EDT
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I take my SCAR out every two or three weeks to the public range I shoot at.
I have seen four or five SCARs there in the last two years. Since it seems everyone has some kind of black rifle now days the non AR guns don't stand out as much. I used to get a lot of looks but either I don't notice or don't get asked about it as much these days. There are basically two types of people that look or ask, people that know what they are looking at, and more common are people that I think have seen them in a video game or in a movie. |
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Posted: 2/19/2018 5:16:09 PM EDT
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grab a gun
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Posted: 2/20/2018 7:05:16 PM EDT
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I see one or two usually every time I’m at the range.
The again they are usually the cheaper guns on the line at the range. Compared to Meredith, Barrett, and lord know what ever else is being shot on the 500-1250y line. Fun guns. I’d like one in 6.5CM ETA: they are a tool. First thing I did to my fde 16s was krylon it. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 7:08:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm guessing that you hate all .308 and larger caliber rifles as well? No big loss to the rest of us. |
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Posted: 3/5/2018 6:58:35 AM EDT
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3 years down range fixing these in Iraq and Afghanistan, I've only replaced a bent charging handle and swapped one shot out barrel.
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Posted: 3/6/2018 10:56:17 PM EDT
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Not to stray off the subject but thought I’d share this amusing encounter. One of the “gun guys” at work came up to me the other day. He said, “Have you got any new guns lately?”
I said, “As a matter of fact I have. I picked up a SCAR 17.” He kind of frowned and said, “I’ve never been a big fan of those. They hardly kill squirrels reliably. I said, “What?” He said, “It’s just personal preference. I’d take a 22 mag over 17hmr.” Lol! |
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Posted: 3/6/2018 11:32:24 PM EDT
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Not to stray off the subject but thought I’d share this amusing encounter. One of the “gun guys” at work came up to me the other day. He said, “Have you got any new guns lately?” I said, “As a matter of fact I have. I picked up a SCAR 17.” He kind of frowned and said, “I’ve never been a big fan of those. They hardly kill squirrels reliably. I said, “What?” He said, “It’s just personal preference. I’d take a 22 mag over 17hmr.” Lol!
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Posted: 3/7/2018 2:35:05 AM EDT
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I've shot squirrels with my FN FAL, does that count?
CD Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not to stray off the subject but thought I’d share this amusing encounter. One of the “gun guys” at work came up to me the other day. He said, “Have you got any new guns lately?” I said, “As a matter of fact I have. I picked up a SCAR 17.” He kind of frowned and said, “I’ve never been a big fan of those. They hardly kill squirrels reliably. I said, “What?” He said, “It’s just personal preference. I’d take a 22 mag over 17hmr.” Lol!
CD
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Posted: 3/7/2018 2:55:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've shot squirrels with my FN FAL, does that count?
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Posted: 3/7/2018 3:00:52 AM EDT
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3 years down range fixing these in Iraq and Afghanistan, I've only replaced a bent charging handle and swapped one shot out barrel. http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/IMG_11455.JPG http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/IMG_0910_mk17.jpg http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/IMG_2202_Mk17_and_20s.JPG https://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/16/48/54/01/img_0113.jpg CD What was the most common barrel length preference? Your opinion of the stock. Sounds like you didn’t see any issues. Everyone keep OE stock or did anybody swap it out? Did optics damage occur with any kind of frequency? I’ve heard accuracy approaches m110. Any truth to that? Given the choice between a well kept M4, or a SCAR16 or SCAR17, what would be your preference. I know mission conditions may dictate one over the other of course, but overall any favorite? Lastly, how was reliability with the 17? Sorry to bombard you. No hurry on response. I just find it interesting to hear opinions from those that use them outside a square range. Thanks! |
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Posted: 3/7/2018 3:20:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Great pics! Couple questions when you have a moment. First, thanks for your service. Appreciate it! What was the most common barrel length preference? Of the three sizes 13", 16" and 20". The 16" is the most common. Your opinion of the stock. Sounds like you didn’t see any issues. Everyone keep OE stock or did anybody swap it out? Some stock due get replaced but OE stock is kept. Did optics damage occur with any kind of frequency? No, unless hit by enemy fire I’ve heard accuracy approaches m110. Any truth to that? Haven't compared the two. Only shot the Mk17 during drills on the one way range. There is the Mk20 which is a sniper version of the SCAR Given the choice between a well kept M4, or a SCAR16 or SCAR17, what would be your preference. I know mission conditions may dictate one over the other of course, but overall any favorite? For years I ran Iraq with either a M14NM or FAL. Always had the M4A1 in the truck too (along with a M79) My preference would be the Mk17 then the M4A1. Lastly, how was reliability with the 17? Very Sorry to bombard you. No hurry on response. I just find it interesting to hear opinions from those that use them outside a square range. Thanks! CD |
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Posted: 3/7/2018 3:36:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There was 2 links. The second one was $2769 I think. Gotta scroll down for the FDE 17s. It's not a real great site, but if they have what you want... Here I'll re link. http://www.specialistgunshop.com/fnusa.htm So tempting, but man I bet my wife would murder me. |
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Posted: 3/7/2018 9:49:45 AM EDT
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Answers above in RED CD Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Great pics! Couple questions when you have a moment. First, thanks for your service. Appreciate it! What was the most common barrel length preference? Of the three sizes 13", 16" and 20". The 16" is the most common. Your opinion of the stock. Sounds like you didn’t see any issues. Everyone keep OE stock or did anybody swap it out? Some stock due get replaced but OE stock is kept. Did optics damage occur with any kind of frequency? No, unless hit by enemy fire I’ve heard accuracy approaches m110. Any truth to that? Haven't compared the two. Only shot the Mk17 during drills on the one way range. There is the Mk20 which is a sniper version of the SCAR Given the choice between a well kept M4, or a SCAR16 or SCAR17, what would be your preference. I know mission conditions may dictate one over the other of course, but overall any favorite? For years I ran Iraq with either a M14NM or FAL. Always had the M4A1 in the truck too (along with a M79) My preference would be the Mk17 then the M4A1. Lastly, how was reliability with the 17? Very Sorry to bombard you. No hurry on response. I just find it interesting to hear opinions from those that use them outside a square range. Thanks! CD 
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Posted: 3/7/2018 10:13:06 AM EDT
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my buddy won one in one of those online raffles. He set it up to kill pigs but has other stuff suited to the task. I tried trading for it, but didn't want to put up that much cash for what would essentially be a 1x a year range trip. My local range doesn't allow rifle rounds, the indoor ranges don't or only go to 25 yards if they do, I don't hunt, and I live in the suburbs. I thought it would be an epic truck gun but meh, not worth it to me.
Saw one at the range once. Guy had a night force on it, match ammo, was wearing a rolex and driving a new mercedes. He was a local attorney and let me shoot it. meh. he giggled more at the $200 bolt 22 with can on it that I had in the next lane, and we both made a hole in the middle of our respective papers a football field away. |
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Posted: 3/7/2018 11:33:00 AM EDT
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we both made a hole in the middle of our respective papers a football field away. |
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Posted: 3/7/2018 5:36:04 PM EDT
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Wow, that's better than the Mil/LEO price from Quantico Tactical... So tempting, but man I bet my wife would murder me. |
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Posted: 3/7/2018 11:38:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not in stock they don't have live inventory.... probably been oos for months Oh... they had a bunch of things marked out of stock but not the 17, so I got my hopes up. |
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Posted: 3/9/2018 3:29:01 AM EDT
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Funny story about the SCAR 17. During the post sandy hook panic a local gun shop had a SCAR on display for................ wait for it.
$20,000!!!! No lie, the shop is called Dongs. |
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Posted: 3/9/2018 6:36:31 PM EDT
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I own one....I've never even shot it. (bought 1 or 2 years ago)
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Posted: 3/9/2018 6:37:27 PM EDT
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Funny story about the SCAR 17. During the post sandy hook panic a local gun shop had a SCAR on display for................ wait for it. $20,000!!!! No lie, the shop is called Dongs. |
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Posted: 3/11/2018 11:48:59 PM EDT
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Wow, that's better than the Mil/LEO price from Quantico Tactical... So tempting, but man I bet my wife would murder me. T |
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Posted: 3/11/2018 11:57:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If the LE/MIL price there is higher than $2769 then they are doing you wrong. It’s way less than that out where I live... T |
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Posted: 3/15/2018 10:43:44 AM EDT
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3 years down range fixing these in Iraq and Afghanistan, I've only replaced a bent charging handle and swapped one shot out barrel. http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/IMG_11455.JPG http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/IMG_0910_mk17.jpg http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/IMG_2202_Mk17_and_20s.JPG https://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/16/48/54/01/img_0113.jpg CD |
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Posted: 3/15/2018 11:11:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With that being the case, can you speculate on why there is so much hate for the weapon from prior military in the GD threads? CD |
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