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Posted: 5/13/2021 4:47:49 PM EDT
Looking to jump into the 416 game and looking at the 416D SF on GB. Any insight before I take the plunge. This would be my 2nd HK, 1st is a SP5.

Thanks
Link Posted: 5/13/2021 7:42:34 PM EDT
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Are you a class 3?
Link Posted: 5/13/2021 8:00:49 PM EDT
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Only 9-18 sf variants in the wild.  Be prepared to pay 12-20k for a legit gun.


Way to much for what it is, unless you are a collector.

YMMV.

18Z50
Link Posted: 5/13/2021 8:23:51 PM EDT
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Be prepared for it to not be a legit gun.

(Like seriously have a contingency plan to deal with that possibility upon receipt, if you commit to purchasing one).

I'd want to see a chain of custody or something. Have expert knowledge to verify its authenticity.

Unscrupulous guys will clone serial numbers for that kind of cheddar. That's not illegal for a homemade Title I firearm (currently).

Once it's NFA registered and becomes a Title II firearm, the original NFA registration form shows its pedigree. They're available (redacted) from ATF via FOIA request, but it takes months to get a copy. The seller should be able to provide its history, or at least the form they received it on.

Think 416 parts kit + MR556 semi parts + really perfect clone receiver from an 80% lower.
I'd have to know it wasn't that. 10k(+) isn't parts gun money.
Link Posted: 5/13/2021 8:25:33 PM EDT
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Only 9-18 sf variants in the wild.  Be prepared to pay 12-20k for a legit gun.


Way to much for what it is, unless you are a collector.

YMMV.

18Z50
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If this guy isn't a crypto billionaire I was going to accuse him of using his dads account because the starting bid on the gun in question is 85K. So call me dubious.

$$$$$$$$$ Lol
Link Posted: 5/13/2021 10:06:12 PM EDT
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Will be July 1
Link Posted: 5/13/2021 10:08:42 PM EDT
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The gun I was looking at sold for 10k. Now looking for a complete upper that’s on GB, Does it matter if the barrel and bolt date code don’t match the upper’s?
Link Posted: 5/13/2021 10:10:49 PM EDT
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Only 9-18 sf variants in the wild.  Be prepared to pay 12-20k for a legit gun.


Way to much for what it is, unless you are a collector.

YMMV.

18Z50
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That’s my understanding is that they were purchased from a LE agency. Sounds like they might have too much baggage for me.
Link Posted: 5/13/2021 10:13:06 PM EDT
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The gun I was looking at sold for 10k. Now looking for a complete upper that’s on GB, Does it matter if the barrel and bolt date code don’t match the upper’s?
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They usually don't match.
Link Posted: 5/13/2021 10:47:32 PM EDT
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They usually don't match.
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Thanks - didn’t realize that
Link Posted: 5/20/2021 3:27:26 PM EDT
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If this guy isn't a crypto billionaire I was going to accuse him of using his dads account because the starting bid on the gun in question is 85K. So call me dubious.

$$$$$$$$$ Lol
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That seller always lists things at absurd prices. I’ve never seen him list anything that wasn’t at WTF pricing.
Link Posted: 5/21/2021 9:59:08 PM EDT
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That seller always lists things at absurd prices. I’ve never seen him list anything that wasn’t at WTF pricing.
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And, the example he is selling will not be allowed on the registry if you did a title 1 transfer of the lower. That is a dealer sample and never “officially used.” ATF has taken the position the import exemptions cannot be used to enter otherwise non-importable items into ordinary commerce. They will however allow LEO to sell surplus weapons.
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